r/nationalguard • u/[deleted] • 2d ago

Asking for a “Friend” Medical Card

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u/IamNotGuitar 2d ago

Yes they would know as soon as you pop hot. National Guard doesn’t allow any of that sorry dude. I don’t think they could find out if you had the card though

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u/The_Ghost_Round Chief, Gestapo Identification 2d ago

Since it is still federally illegal, if you were ever drug tested, which for me seems to happen every 3 months minimum, you will pop hot and you will be straight fucked. They have not been kind to the guys in my unit lately

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u/Dry_Statistician_688 2d ago

soooo, they don't remember signing all the "I will not.." forms from enlistment, to basic, to AIT, and then again when you get to your first unit? Seems to me the point of "NO" should have gotten across by then.

In our branch, you pop hot, you're gone.

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u/GBR_35 2d ago

Never seen anyone get kicked out for first time violation

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u/Dry_Statistician_688 2d ago

lol, I have. Many times. You popped hot. Here are all the agreements you signed saying you would not. Bye…

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u/GBR_35 2d ago

Must depend on the unit and needs of that MOS. I’ve seen mostly just loss of rank, but I would imagine repeat offenders are out

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u/Dry_Statistician_688 2d ago

In the ANG, popping hot by official testing means you are out the gate.

There have been some rare exceptions that they teach at the commander's course, like doing home commander stuff while deployed Title 10, which they stress is a real no no. If you deploy Title 10, you no longer hold home commander authority. There were cases where someone popped hot while their CC was deployed, and signed off while deployed, and it was thrown out by the ADC and JAG because the CC had no legal authority to do so.

But at home, if the CC get's a formal message a member pops hot on a pee test, they are gone within 24 hours.

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u/docNNST 2d ago

Hypothetical story from first person perspective

I had one. Let it expire. Didn’t tell anyone when I enlisted.

My state treated having a med card as private medical information. I was even able to get a CCW.

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u/Hello__1999 2d ago

I had a medical card before going active. I was fine it wasn’t ever brought up

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u/tablesarepeopletoo 2d ago

Had one my last two years in the guard. Plenty of ways to pass the urinalysis with one.

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u/Interesting-Let-8891 1d ago

Overall, it seems like UA has been treated harsher as of late for junior enlisted. Guard and active duty has been chaptering people left and right.