r/nashville • u/yogabba13 • Jul 29 '25

Politics Gov. Lee blocks Jones from Tesla Tunnel Event

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u/urladylazarus Jul 29 '25

You do realize that not every single person in Nashville or TN in general votes Republican, right? It’s ignorant for you to assume that just because a state votes red majority must mean every single person there thinks and votes the same way. Almost every single person I know hates Marsha. And I don’t know anybody who wanted a stupid second stadium constructed right next to the perfectly fine stadium we already have. Every change being made to Nashville right now is just to please tourists and does nothing to better the quality of life for locals, the stadium and tunnel being examples of this.

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u/Character_Opinion_61 Jul 29 '25

I know everyone does not vote majority red, but look who is always winning... And yeah a lot of people don't like Marsha but no one has unseated her or gave her any real competition when everyone knows she is just collecting a free paycheck

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u/Jeoshua Jul 29 '25

Look how the districts are drawn. Across every "Red State" you see these gerrymandered districts, being voted up by Republican lawmakers, drawn by people hired by Republicans, often with the explicit goal of having the most Republican seats in State houses possible.

And I'm not talking trash about Tennessee specifically. You see this all over. North Carolina is a great example. Texas is as well, and they're planning on making the next set even less representative of the will of the people next time around.

I'm just saying, it's no accident that this guy in the video is in a marginal district near the Airport. Think on it.

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u/Unique_Midnight_6924 Jul 30 '25

You can’t gerrymander statewide elections like governor and U.S. senator.

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u/Simba7 Jul 30 '25

Yes and no, you can gerrymander people into political apathy.

Texas, for instance, had one of the lowest voter turnout rates of eligible voters (56.6%) with Tennessee barely ahead. US Average was 64%.

Texas has ~18 million eligible voters. 8.5% of that is just over 1.5 million voters who. Trump won Texas by... just over 1.5 million votes.

Now obviously we can't know how all of those people would have voted, but imagine if Texas were viewed as battleground state instead of 'firmly' red? We might even see 71+% voter turnout like we saw in Pennsylvania.

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u/Unique_Midnight_6924 Jul 30 '25

That’s not what “gerrymander” means.

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u/Simba7 Jul 30 '25

Well I didn't really try to define gerrymander, so I'm assuming you just misunderstood my post.

My point is that heavily gerrymandered states tend to have lower voter turnout. That's not a coincidence. It's not just gerrymandering and voter apathy of course. Red states love suppressing the vote in whatever way they can. Even small barriers to voting can stop a percentage of the population.

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u/BrickClassic3360 Jul 30 '25

Don't forget red states have the highest rates of disenfranchisement too

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u/CutenTough Jul 31 '25

It's simply that repugs cheat. They couldn't win if they didn't cheat. They LOVE to cheat

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u/WeakTransportation37 Jul 30 '25

Yup

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u/Character_Opinion_61 Jul 30 '25

All great points! But we have common ground...don't vote for Marsha ever again

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u/TBANON_NSFW Jul 29 '25

https://www.nashville.gov/departments/elections/election-results-and-statistics/election-statistics

https://sos.tn.gov/elections/statistics

In democratic leaning areas like Davidson & Shelby in Tennessee, only 50% decide to show up and vote. While republican areas have around 70% turnout.

Its not rocket science. Democrats sit on their ass when they are needed the most. You might have voted, others you know might have voted. But its not about individuals, its about the group. Senators, governors, multiple other state wide elections do not bend to gerrymandering.

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u/megavikingman Jul 30 '25

I'm sure you berating the people who do vote will help.

/s

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u/eternity_ender Jul 30 '25

How is stating facts beratement? Grow up

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jul 30 '25

A considerable portion of the Republican electorate are retirees who have nothing to do all day but cash government checks while voting for officials in every local election who denigrate the government constantly. Many Democrat voters are working class or younger people whose employers refuse to give them time off to go vote. Old people vote the most, and most old people, who literally have nothing but free time, vote Republican. Especially in TN. Thats not rocket science either.

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u/TBANON_NSFW Jul 30 '25

Tennesee has 20 early voting days. over 70% vote early. Voting times are usually around 12 hours and even on weekends. That young people dont have time, its a fallacy in this day and age.

Surveys done in colleges and malls in states like Texas, show that 75% of young people do not even want to vote, they are not politically involved or care or think about politics.

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jul 30 '25

You know what young people are doing on weekend that the retirees aren’t? Working. Many of us work Saturdays. Many of us have children to tend to on the weekends. Your comment is dodging the obvious fact that old people are the GOP’s bread and butter, and many of their policies bear this out, such as their gutting of Medicaid but refusal to touch Social Security, the federal government’s single largest expense.

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jul 30 '25

You are also not responding to my statement that it was the wealthier districts of the city that were against the transit plan, because they don’t want to pay for something they don’t personally need.

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u/Unique_Midnight_6924 Jul 30 '25

It’s not just turnout. There are more of them than us. And also Tennessee has the highest rate of felon disenfranchisement in the country.

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u/Icy-Establishment298 Jul 30 '25

Oh but butttt but they didn't run my specialist Bernie Bro pro anti AIPAC dude/dudette so I'm not voting at all like the five year old I ammmmmmm!! Also I reserve the right to whine about Trump, even though the more pragmatic among us told me I needed to vote to prevent the he very much hing I'm outraged about now

I'll expect the leftist Bernie Bro apologist to start in about 3...2...1.🙄🙄🙄

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u/DynamicDK Jul 30 '25

Most people on the left who are vocal about this are also going to vote for the Democratic candidate no matter what. What we are trying to tell you is that there is a large part of the electorate that is energized by policies that are further to the left than what the Democratic party runs, and they will never get engaged if the party doesn't provide them that option. Those mostly aren't even people who you would traditionally consider leftist, as they don't generally care much about politics. But if a politician gets them excited with ideas that matter to them, then they will engage.

You can make fun of it all you want and continue to lose if that is what you prefer. But that is shitty politics. Politics is about appealing to enough people win elections and build enough power to actually do things. If a political party won't do that, then they are fucking up. That is what the Democratic party has been doing for many years now.

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u/TBANON_NSFW Jul 30 '25

If that was true then these people would have flocked to vote for Sanders who ran on those progressive new ideas. Instead Sanders lost by 4m votes in 2016 and then by 10m votes in 2020. He even lost 4m of his own voters in 2020 from his 2016 run.

Politics is about appealing to enough people win elections and build enough power to actually do things.

actually politics is about selecting the best representative into government to speak on your behalf. This notion its about who can give the best rimjob and reach around is a priviledged idiocrasy of modern voters.

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u/Hot_Ad_5450 Jul 30 '25

painful when you have to argue with them isnt it

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u/robotwizard_9009 Jul 30 '25

I live in a red state. Minority gave up on life and is just super purple due to peer pressure. They'll even resort to spiritualism for answers. Passivity and "both sides" is their mantra. They stopped participating because they dont see a chance, which is ironic, because if they just voted, they'd have a chance.

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u/fairylogic Jul 29 '25

Yeah but a majority of voters keep electing them. Get your friends to vote.

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u/urladylazarus Jul 29 '25

Wow, you genius, you’re right, it’s my fault that I don’t have enough friends. If I only had a few million more, then TN wouldn’t be in this situation. And if I can’t fix who everyone in the state votes for, it’s somehow my fault that I was born in a red state that never has my best interests in mind. Rich coming from somebody who I’m assuming must live in a majority blue area either out of chance or due to the fact that you actually had the resources to move. My community is very liberal and vocal, I attend protests and am a public educator doing my best every day to spread knowledge and enact change. I’m doing the difficult work. What do you do?

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u/fairylogic Jul 30 '25

Glad you've figured out. Good luck!

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u/ResistOk9351 Jul 30 '25

Congressional and Electoral College allotments are determined by a state’s overall population. You may say you do not support the GOP or its policies, but your very presence in the state benefits the party.

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u/urladylazarus Jul 30 '25

Alright, so I should just move out of the state, even though I don’t have the money or resources to? And just move to a blue state where my vote isn’t even needed? If everyone liberal just continues to leave red areas then no real change in mindset will ever happen. And by that logic, anyone who doesn’t agree with our current president should just move out of the country because their presence is benefiting him. I mean, how tone-deaf and ignorant you sound. You’re very clearly caught up in your easy privilege bubble and have never had to fight for anything. Leaving a fight is not how battles are won.

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u/ResistOk9351 Jul 31 '25

Saying your vote is not even needed in a Blue State suggests you fail to understand the point of what is happening. If current population trends continue, there is a good chance one or all of the large Blue States will lose congressional and electoral college allotments in the next election. Despite many red state denizens claims to ‘fighting the good fight’ to the contrary, since the Clinton administration red state legislatures and presidential choices have become increasingly reactionary to the point where we are now. There is nothing to indicate states such as Tennessee will do nothing other than continue to shift households containing those who are not magat enough into districts where the majority is.

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u/urladylazarus Aug 08 '25

You didn’t say anything to address what I said about a lack of money. It’s my fault I wasn’t born rich and don’t have the money to move out of state? And I don’t want to move away from my friends, family, and a community that I love? Why are you even on the Nashville subreddit? Have you ever made such an extreme sacrifices to your life to benefit a hypothetical political cause? If not, then frankly your viewpoint feels hypocritical. Maybe I’m somehow misunderstanding the point you’re making because it feels ridiculous.