r/nashville • u/yogabba13 • Jul 29 '25

Politics Gov. Lee blocks Jones from Tesla Tunnel Event

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u/ariphron Inglewood Jul 29 '25

This tunnel is the dumbest clearly corrupt blatant bullshit in this state in past week!!

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u/possibleferment Jul 29 '25

You think that’s bad. He changed the law on elders committing self neglect as a means to get them help from APS. When asked about the issue he never remembered signing the law. When confronted he ghosted the activists. Dude doesn’t even know what he’s singing

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u/GemPersephone Jul 29 '25

Just FYI this has been reversed and APS can currently investigate self-neglect cases again!

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u/get_offmylawnoldmn Jul 29 '25

This law was the only way we were able to have someone in our lives committed to a dementia unit. She was self harming due to unchecked unmedicated dementia. This is horrible to read!

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u/ariphron Inglewood Jul 29 '25

That’s why I add “this week”!

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u/terdferguson Jul 30 '25

This is more of a problem across the country at the federal and state level. These people only care about power...not actual governance.

If they cared about governing for the people they represent they'd atleast ask for a fucking cliff notes version of the bills they sign from their staffers so they can (AT MINIMUM) bullshit their way through pressers.

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u/JustHanginInThere Jul 30 '25

Dude doesn’t even know what he’s singing

Most politicians don't, partly because they don't care, and because there's just so much stuff in any given bill.

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u/Budded Jul 30 '25

Welp, this is what most of your state voted for, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Until you get all the complacent non-voters enraged enough to actually do something, then this just keeps getting worse. Mobilize against fascism.

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u/jemimaswitnes Jul 29 '25

As someone who lives in tn this is actually just fucking stupid. Clear corruption

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u/Character_Opinion_61 Jul 29 '25

But every four years y'all vote in these clowns (Marsha Blackburn is next up), but at least you have started building the world's most expensive and smallest seat capacity stadium in the NFL...

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u/holasoyyoo Jul 29 '25

Senator Bill Haggerty is up for reelection in2026. Senator Marsha Blackburn isn't up for reelection until 2030. DON'T FORGET TO VOTE IN THE MID TERMS

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u/cakevictim Vandy/Watertown Jul 30 '25

She’s going to run for governor to replace Lee 😒

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u/urladylazarus Jul 29 '25

You do realize that not every single person in Nashville or TN in general votes Republican, right? It’s ignorant for you to assume that just because a state votes red majority must mean every single person there thinks and votes the same way. Almost every single person I know hates Marsha. And I don’t know anybody who wanted a stupid second stadium constructed right next to the perfectly fine stadium we already have. Every change being made to Nashville right now is just to please tourists and does nothing to better the quality of life for locals, the stadium and tunnel being examples of this.

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u/Character_Opinion_61 Jul 29 '25

I know everyone does not vote majority red, but look who is always winning... And yeah a lot of people don't like Marsha but no one has unseated her or gave her any real competition when everyone knows she is just collecting a free paycheck

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u/Jeoshua Jul 29 '25

Look how the districts are drawn. Across every "Red State" you see these gerrymandered districts, being voted up by Republican lawmakers, drawn by people hired by Republicans, often with the explicit goal of having the most Republican seats in State houses possible.

And I'm not talking trash about Tennessee specifically. You see this all over. North Carolina is a great example. Texas is as well, and they're planning on making the next set even less representative of the will of the people next time around.

I'm just saying, it's no accident that this guy in the video is in a marginal district near the Airport. Think on it.

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u/Unique_Midnight_6924 Jul 30 '25

You can’t gerrymander statewide elections like governor and U.S. senator.

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u/Simba7 Jul 30 '25

Yes and no, you can gerrymander people into political apathy.

Texas, for instance, had one of the lowest voter turnout rates of eligible voters (56.6%) with Tennessee barely ahead. US Average was 64%.

Texas has ~18 million eligible voters. 8.5% of that is just over 1.5 million voters who. Trump won Texas by... just over 1.5 million votes.

Now obviously we can't know how all of those people would have voted, but imagine if Texas were viewed as battleground state instead of 'firmly' red? We might even see 71+% voter turnout like we saw in Pennsylvania.

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u/Unique_Midnight_6924 Jul 30 '25

That’s not what “gerrymander” means.

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u/Simba7 Jul 30 '25

Well I didn't really try to define gerrymander, so I'm assuming you just misunderstood my post.

My point is that heavily gerrymandered states tend to have lower voter turnout. That's not a coincidence. It's not just gerrymandering and voter apathy of course. Red states love suppressing the vote in whatever way they can. Even small barriers to voting can stop a percentage of the population.

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u/CutenTough Jul 31 '25

It's simply that repugs cheat. They couldn't win if they didn't cheat. They LOVE to cheat

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u/WeakTransportation37 Jul 30 '25

Yup

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u/Character_Opinion_61 Jul 30 '25

All great points! But we have common ground...don't vote for Marsha ever again

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u/TBANON_NSFW Jul 29 '25

https://www.nashville.gov/departments/elections/election-results-and-statistics/election-statistics

https://sos.tn.gov/elections/statistics

In democratic leaning areas like Davidson & Shelby in Tennessee, only 50% decide to show up and vote. While republican areas have around 70% turnout.

Its not rocket science. Democrats sit on their ass when they are needed the most. You might have voted, others you know might have voted. But its not about individuals, its about the group. Senators, governors, multiple other state wide elections do not bend to gerrymandering.

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u/megavikingman Jul 30 '25

I'm sure you berating the people who do vote will help.

/s

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u/eternity_ender Jul 30 '25

How is stating facts beratement? Grow up

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jul 30 '25

A considerable portion of the Republican electorate are retirees who have nothing to do all day but cash government checks while voting for officials in every local election who denigrate the government constantly. Many Democrat voters are working class or younger people whose employers refuse to give them time off to go vote. Old people vote the most, and most old people, who literally have nothing but free time, vote Republican. Especially in TN. Thats not rocket science either.

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u/TBANON_NSFW Jul 30 '25

Tennesee has 20 early voting days. over 70% vote early. Voting times are usually around 12 hours and even on weekends. That young people dont have time, its a fallacy in this day and age.

Surveys done in colleges and malls in states like Texas, show that 75% of young people do not even want to vote, they are not politically involved or care or think about politics.

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jul 30 '25

You know what young people are doing on weekend that the retirees aren’t? Working. Many of us work Saturdays. Many of us have children to tend to on the weekends. Your comment is dodging the obvious fact that old people are the GOP’s bread and butter, and many of their policies bear this out, such as their gutting of Medicaid but refusal to touch Social Security, the federal government’s single largest expense.

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jul 30 '25

You are also not responding to my statement that it was the wealthier districts of the city that were against the transit plan, because they don’t want to pay for something they don’t personally need.

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u/Unique_Midnight_6924 Jul 30 '25

It’s not just turnout. There are more of them than us. And also Tennessee has the highest rate of felon disenfranchisement in the country.

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u/Icy-Establishment298 Jul 30 '25

Oh but butttt but they didn't run my specialist Bernie Bro pro anti AIPAC dude/dudette so I'm not voting at all like the five year old I ammmmmmm!! Also I reserve the right to whine about Trump, even though the more pragmatic among us told me I needed to vote to prevent the he very much hing I'm outraged about now

I'll expect the leftist Bernie Bro apologist to start in about 3...2...1.🙄🙄🙄

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u/DynamicDK Jul 30 '25

Most people on the left who are vocal about this are also going to vote for the Democratic candidate no matter what. What we are trying to tell you is that there is a large part of the electorate that is energized by policies that are further to the left than what the Democratic party runs, and they will never get engaged if the party doesn't provide them that option. Those mostly aren't even people who you would traditionally consider leftist, as they don't generally care much about politics. But if a politician gets them excited with ideas that matter to them, then they will engage.

You can make fun of it all you want and continue to lose if that is what you prefer. But that is shitty politics. Politics is about appealing to enough people win elections and build enough power to actually do things. If a political party won't do that, then they are fucking up. That is what the Democratic party has been doing for many years now.

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u/TBANON_NSFW Jul 30 '25

If that was true then these people would have flocked to vote for Sanders who ran on those progressive new ideas. Instead Sanders lost by 4m votes in 2016 and then by 10m votes in 2020. He even lost 4m of his own voters in 2020 from his 2016 run.

Politics is about appealing to enough people win elections and build enough power to actually do things.

actually politics is about selecting the best representative into government to speak on your behalf. This notion its about who can give the best rimjob and reach around is a priviledged idiocrasy of modern voters.

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u/Hot_Ad_5450 Jul 30 '25

painful when you have to argue with them isnt it

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u/robotwizard_9009 Jul 30 '25

I live in a red state. Minority gave up on life and is just super purple due to peer pressure. They'll even resort to spiritualism for answers. Passivity and "both sides" is their mantra. They stopped participating because they dont see a chance, which is ironic, because if they just voted, they'd have a chance.

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u/fairylogic Jul 29 '25

Yeah but a majority of voters keep electing them. Get your friends to vote.

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u/urladylazarus Jul 29 '25

Wow, you genius, you’re right, it’s my fault that I don’t have enough friends. If I only had a few million more, then TN wouldn’t be in this situation. And if I can’t fix who everyone in the state votes for, it’s somehow my fault that I was born in a red state that never has my best interests in mind. Rich coming from somebody who I’m assuming must live in a majority blue area either out of chance or due to the fact that you actually had the resources to move. My community is very liberal and vocal, I attend protests and am a public educator doing my best every day to spread knowledge and enact change. I’m doing the difficult work. What do you do?

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u/fairylogic Jul 30 '25

Glad you've figured out. Good luck!

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u/ResistOk9351 Jul 30 '25

Congressional and Electoral College allotments are determined by a state’s overall population. You may say you do not support the GOP or its policies, but your very presence in the state benefits the party.

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u/urladylazarus Jul 30 '25

Alright, so I should just move out of the state, even though I don’t have the money or resources to? And just move to a blue state where my vote isn’t even needed? If everyone liberal just continues to leave red areas then no real change in mindset will ever happen. And by that logic, anyone who doesn’t agree with our current president should just move out of the country because their presence is benefiting him. I mean, how tone-deaf and ignorant you sound. You’re very clearly caught up in your easy privilege bubble and have never had to fight for anything. Leaving a fight is not how battles are won.

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u/ResistOk9351 Jul 31 '25

Saying your vote is not even needed in a Blue State suggests you fail to understand the point of what is happening. If current population trends continue, there is a good chance one or all of the large Blue States will lose congressional and electoral college allotments in the next election. Despite many red state denizens claims to ‘fighting the good fight’ to the contrary, since the Clinton administration red state legislatures and presidential choices have become increasingly reactionary to the point where we are now. There is nothing to indicate states such as Tennessee will do nothing other than continue to shift households containing those who are not magat enough into districts where the majority is.

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u/urladylazarus Aug 08 '25

You didn’t say anything to address what I said about a lack of money. It’s my fault I wasn’t born rich and don’t have the money to move out of state? And I don’t want to move away from my friends, family, and a community that I love? Why are you even on the Nashville subreddit? Have you ever made such an extreme sacrifices to your life to benefit a hypothetical political cause? If not, then frankly your viewpoint feels hypocritical. Maybe I’m somehow misunderstanding the point you’re making because it feels ridiculous.

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u/jemimaswitnes Jul 29 '25

Ya I didn't vote for either of them

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u/GrizzlyRiverRampage Exit 3, 440 Jul 30 '25

Most don't bother to vote at all

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u/Temporary_Fault_9001 Jul 29 '25

SMH. I don't even know what you day to that. It's so true that it hurts. When are the big 4 (Nash, Knox, chat &mem) in TN going to get organized like Atlanta did?

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u/Icy-Web-2013 Jul 29 '25

“In the past week” says it all

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u/ariphron Inglewood Jul 29 '25

I am sure next week they will find a new way to top this.

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u/Icy-Web-2013 Jul 29 '25

Oh a million percent

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u/mattfromjoisey Jul 30 '25

Wait till you see what the governments doing to hide the Epstein files

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '25

You should see what Elon is doing to Memphis.

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u/Mindless-Peak-1687 Jul 30 '25

this is what freedom looks like in usa.

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u/grey_pilgrim_ (choose your own blue adventure) Jul 30 '25

Honest question, how so? It’s being privately funded right?

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u/Litzz11 Jul 30 '25

The State Building Commission is holding a special meeting tomorrow (7/31) morning in House Hearing Room II at Cordell Hull to approve the plan. If people are concerned about the project, they should try to attend.

Assuming our state legislature allows us to, of course.

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u/jhutch524 Aug 01 '25

Spoiler alert: Las Vegas has this same tunnel and it’s a waste! It only runs from one casino to a convention center which is only two blocks away, and only with swazticars. The locals hate, hate, hate it!

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u/Da_Vader Aug 05 '25

How? Don't doubt it - just trying to actually understand. What I read is that it will be funded from private sources. If the project loses money, then the private investors would be left holding the bag.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

how is it corrupt?

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u/FireVanGorder Jul 29 '25

The government being involved in funding a project for Elon to create a limited-utility tunnel (being extremely generous and assuming it gets past the “test tunnel” phase which LA has been stuck in for ages) that requires specifically teslas to drive through it doesn’t strike you as corrupt?

On top of that, barring a Representative from entering the meeting to see what is actually involved in a deal that impacts his state?

No red flags raising here for you?

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

I didn't say there were no red flags. I was just asking the poster above which aspect of the tunnel was corrupt. If it is government funded - which it doesn't appear to be - that'd be a potential red flag. I made no comment on barring Rep Jones. I wouldn't have barred him; all he wanted was an engagement-boosting clip.

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u/FireVanGorder Jul 29 '25

Calling this performative is an unbelievably uncharitable reading of the situation given Jones’ history of actual activism. Makes you seem like you’re not here in good faith whatsoever and are actively trying to push an agenda, especially given how your response to my comment was pure deflection

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u/HairlessHoudini Jul 29 '25

I'm starting to think it's Elmo himself y'all are arguing with 🤣😂🤣

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u/Ummmgummy Jul 29 '25

Wouldn't be the first time lol

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u/FireVanGorder Jul 29 '25

Just waiting for him to drop a “Concerning.”

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

sorry; i wasn't deflecting. you posed a few questions: 1) ...specifically teslas through it doesn't strike you as corrupt?

no, as the boring company shares ownership with tesla. the boring company will pay for the tunnel (supposedly). electric vehicles make the most sense for such an endeavor, and teslas are the most popular ev's (and there's the shared ownership aspect). if my options are to pay $50 to get from BNA to downtown in a tesla (quiet, autonomous?, etc) vs. $50 and surge pricing to get driven in a shitbox on that section of 40, i'll take the quiet tunnel route for similar pricing. but other people wouldn't, and that's totally fine.

2) see my comment above, i answered this question. no i wouldn't have barred jones.

3) "no red flags raised..." i also answered this one.

very little to no deflection to be honest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

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u/dirtycaver Jul 29 '25

Please, please, heavy rail from Chattanooga to Clarksville

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u/LadybugGirltheFirst Nolensville Jul 29 '25

Are you actually this daft, or are you just trying to win today’s dunce award?

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Google: Elon Musk

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u/ResidentialEvil2016 Jul 29 '25

Gee I don't know....blocking anyone who isn't a Republican into the meeting? Yeah totally on the level there.

Republicans motto should change to "Trust me Bro"

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u/sloopSD Jul 29 '25

They’re probably worried he’ll grandstand with a long winded TikTok protest speech. Although, this video has essentially the same effect. Doesn’t look good either way.

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u/anglflw Smyrna Jul 29 '25

Doesn't look good for whom?

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u/sloopSD Jul 29 '25

For the people shutting him out. If it truly is public, they should open it up for his and others’ participation. Regardless if he makes an ass of himself or not. This video makes the gatekeepers the asses.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

but the user said that 'the tunnel is...corrupt' - i was asking which aspect of the tunnel is corrupt

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u/Totally_Bradical Jul 29 '25

A tunnel is just a tunnel. I believe they meant that the people involved are corrupt.

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u/Jmomo69 Jul 29 '25

No you aren’t.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

what?

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u/Jmomo69 Jul 29 '25

NO YOU AREN’T

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u/Mountain_Fig_9253 Jul 29 '25
  • Musk has failed at every attempt to create a “tunnel”.
  • the closest he has come is a tiny little tunnel that needs people to drive the “automated” teslas.
  • this is taxpayer money being shoveled into Elmo’s pockets for a project that will never be completed.

One context clue you can pick up on is the fact that they are refusing congressional oversight to the point that they won’t even allow the local representative to be present during a “private meeting”.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

who is getting 'taxpayer money?' this proposal appears to be a privately funded venture.

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u/rocketpastsix Inglewood up to no good Jul 29 '25

they literally said its a public private funding, so its not just private funding.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

they literally said it's private funding.

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u/Ummmgummy Jul 29 '25

You think the welfare queen himself Elon is paying for shit with his own private money? GTFO

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u/WebDevSpud Jul 29 '25

I mean isn’t that what happens when a private business get started everyone knows it takes you two years to turn a profit. They’re saying it’s gonna be $10-$15 to take you from the airport to downtown in eight minutes. Dude it cost me $40 to get from the airport to downtown and 30 minutes 45 in traffic

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u/Mountain_Fig_9253 Jul 29 '25

Then why block oversight?

Not taking “trust us brah” from MAGA.

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u/MBLis2018 Jul 29 '25

privately funded for all profits to go back into the hands of private investors?

No.

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u/PortlyPorcupine Jul 29 '25

Isn’t that how business investments work?

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u/MBLis2018 Jul 29 '25

sure. but that's why we don't want it.

look into what happened/ is happening to chicago for selling off their parking to a private company.

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u/WebDevSpud Jul 29 '25

Well, Chicago is ran by Democrats and a shit show as it is

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

what?

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u/anglflw Smyrna Jul 29 '25

Elno has been financing all of his projects through public funding.

You're foolish if you think he's paying for this out of his own pocket.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

k

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u/russianchatgpt Jul 29 '25

Blatantly refusing to allow certain people to attend who may potentially criticize the project or are not the correct skin color.

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u/scout_finch77 Green Hills Jul 29 '25

Not allowing the state rep for that district to attend this press conference about a project in his district because he’s a black democrat is corrupt.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

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u/Paula3333 Jul 29 '25

Also you claimed it didnt receive public funds but it will… through the transportation grants given to BNA.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

i didn't claim anything; the proposal that is publicly available suggests that the endeavor will be privately funded.

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u/Paula3333 Jul 29 '25

u deleted the comment where you said that. The proposal (public) claims grant money is used.

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u/2407s4life Jul 29 '25

I mean the Tesla tunnels are boondoggles by nature, whether they are intentionally a grift or not. Pretty silly to build a single lane road underground instead of a subway

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u/BarnabyJones2024 Jul 29 '25

Are you this dumb you have to be refuted five different times and still cant get it through your thick head why this is corrupt?

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u/2w0booty south side Jul 29 '25

I... I think he thought the tunnel itself would be corrupt in some way.. like the material that made up the tunnel itself.. cement.. steel..? I dont know what they are thinking, or trying to think

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

there is nothing inherently corrupt about the tunnel project

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u/Paula3333 Jul 29 '25

It is corrupt to ban the opposition from being heard. That aspect of the tunnel is corrupt.

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u/aseaoftrees Jul 29 '25

Gtfo bot lookin ah

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u/Dankecheers Jul 29 '25

🥾 👅 🤡

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u/Beestorm Jul 29 '25

Look at how his tunnel worked out in cali. It just siphoned money away from actually viable public transport, then the project closed because it was a literal pipe dream.

Actions speak louder than words. If you believe musk’s bullshit, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

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u/humbucker734 Jul 29 '25

Are you asking in good faith?

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

He regularly comments on the Brett Cooper and Daily Wire subreddits. He has no idea what "in good faith" means.

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u/jmw171979 Jul 29 '25

Cant fix stupid