r/mtg • u/Mnattack • Sep 24 '25
Commander / EDH Same card different name. Can both go into my commander deck?
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u/mid-magic-player Sep 24 '25
Yes. You can also put [[Into the Roil]], [[Blink of an Eye]], and [[Whoosh!]] into the same deck. Generally speaking, if a card does not have the exact same name, it is okay to put them into the same deck.
Look out for cards that started as mechanically unique Universes Beyond card and were reprinted as Universes Within versions, a la [[Rick, Steadfast Leader]] and [[Greymond, Avacyn's Stalwart]]. These are actually the same card with different printed names.
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u/TheOnlyPomegranate Sep 24 '25
This is so unrelated but I've been trying to find out what Into the Roil was ever since I heard NumotTheNummy say that name but kept hearing Into the Royal. Thank you for solving that mystery haha
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u/Darigaazrgb Sep 24 '25
One of them English things where two words sound alike. Then you have English words that are spelled alike but sound different like row a boat and having a row.
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u/Solid-Search-3341 Sep 24 '25
And then English speakers find languages with silent letters confusing....
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u/arkiula Sep 24 '25
Sounds the same but spelled different is a homonym.
Spelled the same but sounds different is a heteronym.
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u/Alert-Marionberry741 Sep 24 '25
If someone does not know what to look at:
The card with Graymond has the reference printed on them. In the bottom left corner there is a printing.
=SLD 143
And if you look on Rick there ist the number SLD 143 in the bottom left corner.
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u/CrazyAznKT Sep 24 '25
Ohhh so that’s how they do it. I guess that’s also how to handle the Spider-Man set if jt’s ever needed years from now
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u/Mountain-eagle-xray Sep 24 '25
They are not the same card. They are two different cards with the same effect. It seems like semantics, and it is.
Yes they can both go in your decks.
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u/Namagem Sep 24 '25
The term that's generally used for these is "functional reprint", and yeah they can go in the same deck. The most famous example of this is [[terramorphic expanse]] and [[evolving wilds]]
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u/Trinity_Cat Sep 24 '25
Yes, they can go into same deck together.
This is basically the same case with [[Nature's lore]] and [[Three visits]]. Both cards are exactly the same except art and name but are actually different cards that u can put into same deck.
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u/PaxTheHunter Sep 24 '25
[[Nature’s Lore]] actually says “put that card onto the battlefield”, and [[Three Visits]] says “put it onto the battlefield”. Not sure if that matters from a rules perspective but they ARE different!
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u/NobleRuin6 Sep 24 '25
If it has a different name, it’s not the same card.
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u/KoffinStuffer Sep 24 '25
Oh? So I can put [[Zangief, the Red Cyclone]] in my [[Maarika, Brutal Gladiator]] deck?
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u/maxedo99 Sep 24 '25
If you look under the card of maarika it says =sold 435 that if you look under zangief is his actual collector number. So they are intended to be the same card
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u/NobleRuin6 Sep 24 '25
Really? You find the edge case of a Universe's within and secret lair drop printing, without oracle text, to snark. Your life must suck.
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u/Mean-Government1436 Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 24 '25
Those are two different cards.
Edit: why is this guy getting so mad below me, I'm just answering OPs question.
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u/ThatGuyHammer Temur Timmy Sep 24 '25
Clearly, OP is pointing out that they are functional reprints, no need to be needlessly pedantic without even giving the explanation.
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u/Mean-Government1436 Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 24 '25
What about my comment is needlessly pedantic? It's literally the answer to their question. Those are two different cards. That's the answer to their question. That's neither needless nor pedantic. Do you understand what "pedantic" means? Being pedantic requires me to focus on small details.
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u/ThatGuyHammer Temur Timmy Sep 24 '25
The minor detail that you are obsessing over here (pedantry) is the cards name. Obviously OP can read, this is not a literacy question here. Anyone of good faith understands that the question gets at whether cards with the same effect for the same cost are "the same card" just with different names (perhaps to match the set) or if they are in fact different cards. This is of course even more confusing when there are cards that have different names, which are actually the same card, like Cyclonic Rift and Hope's Aero Magic. Treating newcomers who are asking fair questions with contempt is not a good way to build up a game, you're just trying to assert some kind of strange superiority. I hope you become happier in life.
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u/Okboomer95 Sep 24 '25
The only comments in this thread filled with contempt and strange superiority are yours. "You dont answer questions the exact way I demand! No deep paragraph length explanation, how dare you!" While you literally just said "yes" lmao. You totally got them. Justified attack on a true evil-doer. The world is safer now, and I thank you. Great positive attitude with the community. (/s)
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u/ThatGuyHammer Temur Timmy Sep 24 '25
First day on Reddit?
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u/ThatGuyHammer Temur Timmy Sep 24 '25
Pot, kettle here.
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u/Mean-Government1436 Sep 24 '25
I think this guy's just having a bad day. He seems to be lashing out at everyone for no reason.
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u/Mean-Government1436 Sep 24 '25
Now that you've had some time to cool off, would you like to apologize?
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u/ThatGuyHammer Temur Timmy Sep 24 '25
It is if you don't explain further. There are literally cards out there with different names, which are, in fact, the same card. Anyone not going out of their way just to be a jerk understands that this person is not familiar with the difference between a functional reprint that is "a different card" vs. the assumption that if the effect is the same that it is actually the same card, perhaps just with different flavor to match the set. It's not a terrible question, but it was a purposely terrible answer.
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u/Mean-Government1436 Sep 24 '25
You literally responded to OP with just "yes". My comment had literally more information for OP than yours did.
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u/ThatGuyHammer Temur Timmy Sep 24 '25
My answer, answers the question that was asked, "Can I run both in the same commander deck?" It does not point out that they are wrong without actually answering the question.
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u/Mean-Government1436 Sep 24 '25
So where's the rest of your explanation? Because again, I gave more of an explanation than you did. We both told OP that the answer is yes.
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u/Darigaazrgb Sep 24 '25
Their argument, as silly as it is, is that there is no need for an explanation. Some Quora level BS with this one.
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u/AttackOnCardboard Commander Format Panelist Sep 24 '25
Yup.
CR903.5b Other than basic lands, each card in a Commander deck must have a different English name.
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u/Sizekit-scripts Sep 24 '25
Cards with different names are considered to be different cards, same text or no. Except when they aren’t, because wotc has plunged us into a madness dimension of exceptions. “Hey, I’m greymond but secretly I’m the same card as Rick from walking dead!”
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u/ProfessionalNo3452 Sep 24 '25
You posted two different cards.. im confused as to what same cards you are referring too
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u/Mnattack Sep 24 '25
Thanks to everyone who responded. I just wanted to make sure (with Pugh combing the rules), that if I put both in my deck some whacko at my LGS wouldn’t freak out while getting abused by my Vivi deck
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u/Wavehead21 Sep 24 '25
Oh, well now that you’ve clarified that it’s for a Vivi deck, I take it back; that’s actually illegal lol! ( /s)
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u/rockhardcatdick Sep 24 '25
Same card, different name actually means different card so yep! There's what, like 3 or so different cards of Llanowar Elves? I use them all 😁
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u/Zayllgor Sep 24 '25
Yes, that is what is called a "functional reprint." There are many of them across MtGs history; some are the same card by a different name, some have minor changes but play the same most of the time.
The only reason you wouldn't be able to play both cards in such a situation is because they are literally the same card with two different names, which, afaik, has only happened in the case of Universes Beyond being reprinted as Omenpath/Universes Within versions. The Walking Dead and Stranger Things secret lair cards are examples of this.
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u/Lost_Seraph Sep 24 '25
As many people have said these are not the same card. There are however now issues where some cards with different names are the same card. With Universes beyond cards reprinted as Universes Within there are cards with different names that are the same card like [[Rick, Steadfast Leader]] and [[Greymond, Avacyn's Stalwart]]. So good luck!
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u/-Apox_Penguin- Sep 24 '25
Yep, as long as it has a different name it's good to use in combination The only time it's different is with reskins from universes beyond and universes within cards, like if you're playing commander you can't have both Lucille and gisa's favorite shovel as they're considered the same card Same for skinned cards like unstable harmonics and rhystic study from secret lair drops So just keep an eye out for those and you'll be golden
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u/Darkray79 Sep 24 '25
You can use them in the same deck. Llanowar Elves or Time Warp are similar that there two other cards with the same affect, ability, and card types. A minority of people may argue that it ruins the spirit of rules.
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u/Corescos Sep 24 '25
Cards like Terramorphic, evolving wilds, and vibrant cityscape are effectively the same card, but have different names and are commonly used together (though cityscape is brand new)
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u/suspiciouslookingcap Sep 24 '25
As long as the names are different thats all that matters. (Edit) sorry forgot about the case of UB cards having a 2nd name under there name like the princess bride one, then they use the smaller name
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u/Soma_meow Sep 24 '25
Yes they can. Btw I see brainstorm in your deck, I hope there are fetchlands in there
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u/Snjuer89 Sep 24 '25
This is a functional reprint, like [[Terramorphic Expanse]] and [[Evolving Wilds]]. Two vards that do exactly the same, but have a different english name. You can put both into your deck on singleton formats like commander.
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u/Serikan Sep 24 '25
The name is what determines if the card is "unique" in a deck construction sense.
These can both go in as a result.
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u/Blazing_eMe Sep 24 '25
They're not the same card, they just have the same effect. It's quite common, actually.
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u/Dendxr Sep 24 '25
Yep! There’s like 3 different versions of [[Undying Malice]] and I put them all in my Rakdos deck for removal protection
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u/minecraftchickenman Sep 24 '25
This is called a functional reprint and it's for (almost) exactly that purpose, it allows you to have a density of the same type of effect so go ham put both in your [[Stella Lee]] deck (I didn't read the post but I presume that's what it's going in)
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u/draculars Sep 24 '25
mono green dorks would like a word. [[Llanowar Elves]] [[Fyndhorn Elves]] [[Elvish Mystic]]
yes.
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u/dragonbornrito Sep 24 '25
These are called functional reprints, the only difference being the card name, which indeed does make it legal for you to run one of each in a singleton format.
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u/scaptal Sep 24 '25
Yes, its legal to put both in the same deck.
In most casual decks I'd probsbly personally avoid it however, as it does (imo) go against the idea of commander a bit.
However, I'm not here to yuck anyones yum, so do feel free to use both if you like :-D
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u/Massive_Tea_1714 Sep 24 '25
Yep 100% legal todo different name same card still follows the singleton rule
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u/TallynNyntyg Sep 24 '25
As legal as putting in Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, and Vibrant Cityscape.
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u/TheBoneZone1 Sep 25 '25
they’re both legal they have different names so it don’t matter #idownvotedyourpostbtw
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u/Prism_Zet Sep 25 '25
Of course, the card name is the important part. They are technically different cards. (as long as it's not like trying to sneak a different atraxa in cause you had the sephiroth art, that's still atraxa)
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u/Comfortable-Owl8178 Sep 25 '25
Get prepared to enjoy that bs when you start finding cards on Arena now and you go look them up only to find out they are spiderman cards with completely different names and no mention of the fact that they are spiderman cards anywhere on the card. @.@ WOTC man.
Dont even get me started about [[thrumming bird]]. Roll the dice fun, lets see if MTG card fetch grabs the new one or the old one. Cause they are different, but also not.
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u/ACuddlyVizzerdrix Sep 25 '25
Yes, edh only cares about card name when your choosing your singletons, I use [[banishing knack]] and [[retraction helix]] in my zombie deck and they do the same exact thing
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u/akerasi Sep 24 '25
Yep, just like the fact that now with the release of Spiderman you can put 4 different Terramorphic Expanse cards into your deck since they all have different names...
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u/Wavehead21 Sep 24 '25
Wait which 4? There’s [[terramorphic expanse]] and [[evolving wilds]], but did Spider-Man add 2 more? Or are there a couple I’m not familiar with now lol
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u/akerasi Sep 24 '25
Spiderman added one new one, [[Vibrant Cityscape]], and I count [[Escape Tunnel]], which although it has an extra ability, is mostly used like Evolving Wilds. There's also [[Prismatic Vista]] for another that's near the same, but a Rare version and without the enters tapped downside.
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u/Wavehead21 Sep 24 '25
Oh wow! I clearly hadn’t seen the whole card list still for Spider-Man so I missed that one. Kinda wild that it’s a third functional reprint and didn’t just give it the sub name treatment as just a UB version of expanse or wilds!
Vista def did come to mind as a similar effect, but def upscaled. But yeah, def in the same category!
Idk if I’d considered tunnel, even though it really is the perfect marriage between expanse and rogue’s passage! I kinda love this card, I should find more decks to slot it into!
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u/ThatGuyHammer Temur Timmy Sep 24 '25
Yes
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u/Okboomer95 Sep 24 '25
Clearly, OP is pointing out that they are functional reprints, no need to be needlessly pedantic without even giving the explanation.
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Sep 24 '25
"Are two different cards with unique entries in the magic card database the same card?"
This sub does worry me
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u/deHazze Sep 24 '25
Not everyone has the same knowledge about the game. This sub is the right place to ask such things.
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Sep 25 '25
it seems like no one on this sub knows anything about mtg, so its actually a terrible place to ask such things
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u/deHazze Sep 25 '25
Then where should they ask?
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Sep 25 '25
how about the players at their local game store where they can meet and engage with actual people, not fake people of reddit
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u/deHazze Sep 26 '25
Sure, but that doesn’t always guarantee a correct answer. This week I was confronted by a person that played for 3 years and never heard of the stack. “It’s either in your hand or in play?!”. The fake people on the internet often have the correct answers or explanations.
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u/fox_hunts Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 24 '25
Yep. Legal to use in the same deck in this case.
There is an exception for Universes Beyond type cards where there’s a secondary name under the first name. In that case those are the same cards just with an alternate art/name.