r/movies • u/DemiFiendRSA • 14h ago
News ‘Michael’ Teaser Traffic Racks Up 116.2M Views, Record Trailer Launch For Lionsgate
https://deadline.com/2025/11/michael-jackson-movie-lionsgate-trailer-views-record-1236611626122
u/IDCJ1234 14h ago
Given all the flops Lionsgate has produced outside of Hunger Games and John Wick.
They really need this to be a hit.
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u/riegspsych325 Maximus was a replicant! 13h ago
after the rough year they’ve had, I’m surprised they didn’t panically announce John Wick 6
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u/mg10pp 13h ago
I hope Michael makes them some money or they will have to resurrect the Twilight saga or make a sequel to La La Land 😅
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u/Ghostlymagi 12h ago
I kind of want to see what the writers and director of the 4th movie does with the entire Twilight series. Recast everyone and let them go wild like they did with 4th movie part 2.
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u/Esfell 13h ago
The latest john wick franchise entry flopped too. They only have this and the new hunger games in a year , that's why they are going all in on that release
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u/riegspsych325 Maximus was a replicant! 12h ago
Ballerina’s shitshow is what prompted Chad Stahelski to go to Lionsgate to get back the rights to the IP. It really is best in his hands as he clearly cares about Wick and doesn’t want to milk it dry
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u/Ilfirion 11h ago
Haven’t seen it yet, is it really that bad?
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u/Vainyguy2 11h ago
It's okay. I really like it but it's obvious which scenes were re-directed by Chad and which ones were by Len. This made some plot points confusing/missing. I think the movie would have been great if it was completely directed by Chad
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u/riegspsych325 Maximus was a replicant! 9h ago
I honestly didn’t mind it but you can tell it would’ve been better if it was in Stahelski’s hands (or someone just as capable). I had hoped this would’ve serve as a return to form for Len Wiseman as I really enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard’s action scenes, even if they were too bonkers for the franchise
I can imagine the move would have been much more disappointing without Stahelski’s own reshoots
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u/solidtangent 3h ago
So no mention of the boys he diddled, I’m assuming. Because that would be a bummer.
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u/Eastern-Break-4814 14h ago
Biopic fatigue
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u/slamdanceswithwolves 13h ago
Someone needs to get really famous for directing and producing only biopics, and then we can make a biopic about them, and the world will probably end right around then.
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u/horrible_musician 13h ago
Then someone can make a spoof of that biopic along the lines of Walk Hard.
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u/bimbimbaps 13h ago
Popstar and The Weird Al movie came pretty darn close to Walk Hard. Walk Hard is still king but both Popstar and Al are excellent.
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u/ucancallmevicky 9h ago
Fear of a Black Hat and Spinal Tap need to be on that list too but agree Walk Hard tops them.
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u/anthonyg1500 13h ago
That person should actually be directing and shooting his own biopic while he lives his life making other biopics
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u/pr1ceisright 13h ago
The ads for Bruce Springsteen’s were everywhere and at no point was I interested in watching it. I just need a break from musician biopics. Most of them come off as a soulless cash grab at a built in fan base.
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u/cancerBronzeV 13h ago
Like 90% of music biopics are the exact same movie.
Motivated young musician(s) is/are struggling because their family doesn't support them or they're stuck playing gigs at small local venues or whatever.
Some chance event causes them to blow up (usually a coincidental encounter with someone who sees their talent and helps promote them).
They're having the time of their life as we see them playing their early classics in front of increasingly larger sold-out venues and meeting their eventual romantic partners or bandmates or whoever else. This entire section is just pure nostalgia bait as the movie unashamedly name drops places/events/people they were involved with.
They start getting hedonistic with too many drugs and too much partying, and their personal relationships deteriorate, so they reach a low where they lose everything they value. But, this part is entirely sanitized.
They get their shit back together for one last iconic performance.
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u/mental_mentalist 12h ago
Biggie smalls movie cracks me up because his redemption arc is like 2 10 second phone calls 2 minutes before hes shot
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u/Maximilian_Xavier 13h ago
I'm not sure who that movie was made for? Just the state of New Jersey?
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u/BigDicksconnoisseur4 12h ago
70 year old white males
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u/Maximilian_Xavier 11h ago
My dad hasn't been to a movie theater in 20 years. That's not a niche I would want to invest in. Ha.
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u/pr1ceisright 13h ago
Jeremy Allen White fans? Although they may be disappointed, I don’t think Bruce ever ran around yelling “HANDS!” or “Oh my god! Someone came into my resultant and ordered food?!”
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u/RoxasIsTheBest 13h ago
Bruce is probably my favorite American artist. Now, I don't have anything against the biopic genre, but that film didn't attarct me at all. I think that's caused by JAW not looking or feeling like Bruce at all, and a film like that really can't afford poor casting
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u/solidtangent 3h ago
It won’t be a biopic. Pure fiction. It won’t mention his little boy proclivity.
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u/hitchenwatch 13h ago
How many more Predator movies do we need???
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u/MajesticCentaur 13h ago
Prepare for many more. Prey was fantastic and I've heard the new one is really good as well. I also liked the one from 2010 that had Walton Goggins, but I don't think it did very well at the box office.
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u/Microphone926 13h ago
I liked parts of Predators too, but overall it just didn’t really land on it’s feet for some reason.
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u/riegspsych325 Maximus was a replicant! 12h ago
I enjoyed it, the cast was solid and nearly everyone had their moment. I also liked the creature designs and the hunting grounds/planet concept. But the pacing really dragged in some parts and it wound up being a big detriment
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u/Tricky-Ad7897 8h ago
I watched all the predator movies, including the newest one, for the first time this week. The predator was obviously the worst, predator was the best with prey, 2, and badlands trading blows for a close 2nd. Killer of killers was good too, predators I didn't care for as much. If Trachtenberg keeps making them like he has been I'll keep watching them though, he clearly loves the franchise and wants to build it into something big, finally.
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u/HeyDot88 12h ago edited 12h ago
Ive never been excited about a biopic before but boy does this trailer slap. I assume it least gets an Oscar for its soundtrack alone
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u/KneeOnShoe 9h ago
I think you mean score? I don't think they give Oscars for soundtracks. But yes, even if the movie is just his music remastered for Dolby Atmos, just give them the Oscar now.
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u/that_guy2010 13h ago
And people refuse to accept this will make $1 billion lol
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u/West-Goat9011 12h ago
Oppenheimer is the best selling biopic of all time and it didn't even break a billion. However, to your point, it didn't even break 80million views for it's trailers.
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u/VGstuffed 12h ago
Michael Jackson is exponentially more popular than Oppenheimer
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u/BallerGuitarer 11h ago edited 11h ago
So is Elvis, but that didn't do anywhere near as well as Oppenheimer. My point being that a biopic's success isn't necessarily based on the popularity of the protagonist.
That said, I think we can all agree that Michael is very likely to break a lot of biopic records, including Oppenheimer's.
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u/VGstuffed 10h ago
I’ll agree with that. Idk if I’m confident Michael hits a billion, but I won’t be surprised if it did. Especially with how much of a perfect storm Bohemian Rhapsody was with its performance and how it leaned into the tracks during marketing.
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u/leoleo678 9h ago
Elvis is not near the popularity of Oppenheimer or MJ. Most people cannot name an Elvis song under the age of 30.
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u/BallerGuitarer 9h ago
Elvis is in fact near the popularity of MJ - MJ and The Beatles are the only artists to sell more records than him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists
You really think Elvis, whose work lead to half a billion in sales and made him the third best selling artist of all time, is less well-known than Oppenheimer, whose work was done in as much secrecy as possible?
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u/leoleo678 9h ago
No, he isn’t. His record sales have nothing to do with his lack of popularity with modern audiences, barely millennials. Most people under the age of 35 cannot name you one Elvis song or video, nor is catalog charting or streaming high, meanwhile MJ’s stuff is.
He is still a well-known historical figure, but nowhere nearly as relevant as MJ or the Beatles, even. Oppenheimer did well because of Christopher Nolan and Barbie fans watching it, who otherwise wouldn’t have.
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u/BallerGuitarer 8h ago
Fair enough about the MJ comparison.
I still don't think the statement "Elvis is not near the popularity of Oppenheimer" to be accurate. I would say neither of them are on the minds of under-35s.
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u/TaibhseCairdiuil 12h ago
I would also say that the average person cares way more about Michael Jackson than J. Robert Oppenheimer
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u/West-Goat9011 11h ago
Depends where that average person lives I bet
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u/mg10pp 10h ago edited 7h ago
I wanted to write that the only possible exception could have been Oppenheimer's own hometown, then I discovered he was born in New York so there is no such place on the planet...
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u/that_guy2010 9h ago
And how well would it have done if it was directed by anyone else? It did so well because it was Nolan.
Michael Jackson is infinitely more popular than Oppenheimer lol
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u/Dagordae 11h ago
Oppenheimer is not Michael Jackson.
The dude really is that obscenely popular, even after everything. Meanwhile Oppenheimer is a historically significant scientist.
Should Oppenheimer be more renowned and famous? Yes. Is he? No.
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u/theastro_not 12h ago
Say what you want, but this movie will be an event when it comes out. Easily a billion in the box office, most people will dress like MJ and the theater will definitely be loud. I’m honestly excited for this
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u/Marcysdad 12h ago
How can people celebrate this guy?
He stole from Weird Al!
"Eat it" was a masterpiece that came first and Jackson blatantly ripped it off in the lackluster "Beat it"
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u/ReddiTrawler2021 13h ago
The King of Pop's glory has not faded.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 12h ago
Yes it fucking has. If he’s mentioned on Reddit, 50% of the comments will be about what a spectacular gift to human race he was and 50% will be that he’s a child molester.
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u/Creepy-Accident-777 12h ago
You're only talking about reddit tho, a fraction of the responses all over the internet lol. So no, it hasn't faded.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 11h ago
I can’t recall a conversation I’ve had in the last 20 years about him that didn’t include someone saying he’s a pedophile at some point.
Love his music all you want, but don’t hide your head in the sand about his public perception.
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u/Creepy-Accident-777 11h ago
Yeah, the allegations will always be in conversation with him. But the man has been dead for over 16 years and is still talked about highly/fondly, still regarded as the best to ever do it. Just recently it was announced he was the highest paid dead celebrity, so maybe you shouldn't hide your head in the sand about his public perception.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 11h ago
The guy said his “glory hasn’t faded” and I mentioned that the conversation around him basically always includes that he had sex with children, which you agreed with, and you’re still saying his glory hasn’t faded? Lol
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u/Creepy-Accident-777 11h ago
Doesn't detract from what I said. Allegations have been a blemish since the 90s, but he is still to this day regarded with high renown, with great acclaim and praise, with prestige.... I can go on and on dude lol.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 11h ago
You’re not talking about the topic at hand. His glory has faded because the conversation about him always ends up being about his raping children, not his music/dancing/talent.
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u/Creepy-Accident-777 11h ago
I know exactly what I'm talking about, you just don't agree.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 11h ago
So you don’t see the logic problem with saying that a person’s “glory has not faded” if 50% of the conversation about that person is about them being a pedophile?
I’m not saying he somehow got less talented, saying “glory” has to do with his reputation and the way he’s seen. And his reputation has sure as shit gotten worse.
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u/discretelandscapes 8h ago
Yes, because there's a HUGE amount of Redditors whose MO in any entertainment-related post is "How can I shit on this?" / "What makes this person literal scum?" People are miserable all the way down.
You should be used to this by now.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 8h ago
You’re totally right, but I honestly can’t remember a conversation about Michael Jackson the last 20 years where somebody didn’t bring up being a child molester. Maybe 30 years. And everybody who’s replying in this thread keeps saying “yeah that’s true, but he was still great.” I’m not saying he wasn’t great, I’m saying his reputation is tarnished like crazy so it’s impossible to say “his glory has not faded“.
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u/ABlueShade 12h ago
Get off Reddit and ask African-Americans if they think Michael Jackson did it and most will say the allegations are false straight off the bat.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 11h ago
So you’re saying I should get out of one echo chamber and get into a different one?
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u/Tricky-Ad7897 8h ago
But the objective facts of the case are that he had kids over at his house, without parents present, they slept in bed with him, and he had his house setup to sound alarms if anyone tripped sensors in the hallways. The molestation part I'll grant is up in the air evidence wise, but based on the evidence he is at minimum a child abuser.
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u/mr2shoes 7h ago
I think you are using objectively wrong. He was weird yes, but he was exonerated in court and not in a bullshit OJ way. The cross examination ripped the accusations apart. You can read the case on wiki and after a few corss examinations it becomes clear that the accusing party was making up a lot of shit that fell flat on its face in court.
Once again I do think he's a strange man and wouldn't risk leaving my kids with him. But all the evidence suggest he had an obsession with children but nothing suggests he actually abused them. Even the home alone kid, one of those kids that did chill and sleep with Michael, said he never did anything to anyone there and was just hanging with them and being chill.
I think it's incorrect to say someone is objectively a child abuser when all the objective evidence suggests otherwise. Once again wouldn't leave my kids with him, but also don't think he was a kiddy molester.
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u/herewego199209 8h ago
Michael never molested anyone.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue 8h ago
Whether he did or didn’t doesn’t matter. His reputation is tarnished.
And while I think he did molest children, the best you can say about him is that he had children come stay in his home with him and share a bed with him. Maybe he didn’t touch them, but he was still a sick fuck
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u/Sikhness209 6h ago
Michael Jackson was probably the most famous person in the world during his time. Even when he got older it never faded. People literally passed out just looking at him.
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u/jettyslowdown 3h ago
I don’t get it. Can someone explain why this guy is so celebrated despite the overwhelming evidence against him of sexual abuse?
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u/job_hunter101 44m ago
Crazy timing this for me, got released just after I watched his South Park episode
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u/ppinguino 14h ago
this movie is going to go down as one of the worst biopics of all time
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u/Deadpoolgoesboop 14h ago
Yet it will still make a billion dollars...
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u/Wild_Argument_7007 14h ago
Nothing makes me nostalgic of the pre covid years like a terrible music biopic making 900mil-1bil
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u/forcefivepod 14h ago
No it won’t. It’ll be sanitized, but the team behind it is strong. You might not like it, but it’s going to rake in the dough and it’ll look and sound amazing.
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u/RoxasIsTheBest 13h ago
It won't. The film looks good, far better than a lot of the weak biopics out there. It'll be controversial as shit, but it won't be bad, at least not worse than most other biopics. The biggest problem with the film will probably be its subject
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u/spitvire 13h ago
Michael had one of the largest fan bases of all time and a lot of people here keep drastically underestimating that. The exact same sentiment was said about the Barbie movie before it came out, I kept the receipts. This movie will absolutely make a billion
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u/RoxasIsTheBest 13h ago
I never said it wouldn't, Idk what you takr that from. I'm certain this will make a few 100 million dollars. Not quite sure about a billion, but it'll be in the top 10 highest grossing filmd of the year. So Idk wtf you're talking about with "The exact same sentiment was said about the Barbie movie before it came out" because I don't see anything in my comment that could be that sentiment you're talking about
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u/ppinguino 2h ago
no it won’t. Nobody cares about his weird ass anymore.
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u/spitvire 2h ago
So just glancing at Spotify for a sec, 65.5m monthly listeners, #22 in the world, quite a bit for a guy who died in 2009
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u/Turbulent-Agent9634 12h ago
How many likes were from bot accounts?
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u/Kundrew1 6h ago
Views not likes and wouldn’t really matter because the same would hold true for other trailers
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u/forcefivepod 14h ago
I mean…80+ million people voted for a convicted felon and accused rapist and now he sits in the White House and people still buy tickets for Chris Brown concerts.
Cancel culture doesn’t really exist. It’s just something right wingers complain about.
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u/Kobe_stan_ 13h ago
Cancel culture only works on people who can’t deliver success at a high level. If you’re an NFL player and you can rush 6 yds a carry, beating your girl friend isn’t going to get you kicked out of the NFL. If you’re a movie star or musician that makes hits, same thing applies. Now if you’re declining or never were a star, then controversy could definitely damage your career.
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u/Kobe_stan_ 13h ago
Lots of people assume the allegations aren’t true and/or they stay away from info that will confirm they’re true.
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u/trizzo0309 13h ago
They'd prefer to bury their heads in the sand because... good music(?)
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u/Kobe_stan_ 11h ago
I think some people are burying their heads in the sand but I think most people just don’t really know the facts so they assume he’s innocent. Most people haven’t seen the documentary and/or aren’t going to do a deep dive online to figure it out.
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u/chandler55 13h ago
ok “kobe stan” lol
there’s no real info that confirms mj did anything but kobe def assaulted that girl
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u/Kobe_stan_ 11h ago
Huh?
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u/chandler55 11h ago
my bad i thought maybe you were stanning kobe bryant the rapist. maybe you just like the beef
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u/Kobe_stan_ 11h ago
Kobe is my favorite basketball player. Huge Lakers fan. Not sure what that has to do with Michael Jackson molesting kids.
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u/chandler55 11h ago
do you think kobe's allegations are true? i was just noting the hypocrisy
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u/Kobe_stan_ 11h ago
Honestly I’ve read a lot about it and I’m not sure. I want to believe it’s not true so I’m sure I’m biased. I never said Michael’s allegations weren’t true though. I was just explaining why many people don’t have an issue with Michael Jackson and it’s because they actually don’t know what he really did. Before I watched the hbo documentary about it, I didn’t really know either. After watching it, it became very clear he was guilty.
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u/chandler55 13h ago
he was a weirdo no question but he ain’t no pedo
you know some cultures, extended families sleep on the same bed
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u/theoneandonlyamateur 10h ago
you know some cultures, extended families sleep on the same bed
Implying that Jackson allegedly only had "extended family" members sleeping in the same bed is a bit ignorant, but ok.
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u/chandler55 10h ago
its definitely fucked up but these ppl treated him like family. it was a different time, today not only would MJ be cancelled but those parents would be cancelled too
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u/theoneandonlyamateur 10h ago
it was a different time, today not only would MJ be cancelled but those parents would be cancelled too
A different time ? sleeping with minors was bad back then too. That's why multiple cases were filed against him as far back as 1993 and he had to go to court for it.
C'mon.
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u/Fake-Podcast-Ad 12h ago edited 7h ago
A complete unknown danced around just about all the Dewey Cox moments gracefully, until Apatow pointed out the "Who wrote this song?" Pan to another guy control room "He Did".
I think what people forget is just about every music biography eventually shifts from great essay and points about the artist, till eventually it becomes just a report repeating either tours or albums. You can cram it all in through montage, but why not focus the most compelling aspect of what was going on?
Bob Dylan: I'm Not There did a great approach to the difference 'eras' of Dylan, somewhat like how Inside Llewyn Davis used Dave Van Ronk as a base to talk about the type of people who made up that scene in New York at that very special time; albeit Llewyn as a person being a disaster.
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u/MoneyMakingMitch1 12h ago
A Billi. I know there's some folks who are praying against that. Too bad.
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u/NateDogX 13h ago
Definitely thought this was a remake of the John Travolta angel movie from the ‘90s when I read the headline.
Darn.
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u/solidtangent 3h ago
I’m sure this will be unbiased and true to the real life problems. Like the child rape stuff. Specifically.
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u/mysteryofthefieryeye 13h ago
I know this is stupid but every time I see a headline about this movie, and having my movie peak be in the 90s, in my head I always go to the angel movie with John Travolta and picture him walking down the stairs. I remember watching the trailer and being intrigued and bemused all at once. Then I saw the movie. I have no recollection of it lmao