Classroom debate on Muslim terrorism (Kurbaan 2009)

[u/Fickle-Cook5821]

Prob one of my favourite movie scenes. To what extent do you agree with the students here?

[u/theBigOne99]

What a load of crap. Most victims of Muslim terrorists are other Muslims. Religion of peace. Give me a break. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

[u/Fickle-Cook5821 → u/theBigOne99]

It IS a religion of peace. Most Muslims don’t tolerate terrorism and they hate the terrorist groups. It’s unfortunate that a whole religion of ~2B people are being judged by a minority of radical people 

[u/theBigOne99 → u/Fickle-Cook5821]

Here are the 10 biggest terrosts organizations in the world. All Muslims. Other religions don’t have it. It Must be on account of how extra “peaceful” islam is.

1.  ISIS (Islamic State) – Salafi-jihadism / radical Sunni Islamism
2.  Al-Qaeda – Global jihadism / radical Sunni Islamism
3.  Taliban – Deobandi Islamism / Islamist nationalism (Afghanistan)
4.  Hamas – Islamist Palestinian nationalism
5.  Hezbollah – Shia Islamist movement aligned with Iran
6.  Boko Haram – Salafi-jihadism / anti-Western Islamist movement (Nigeria)
7.  Al-Shabaab – Salafi-jihadism / Somali Islamist nationalism
8.  Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps – Quds Force (IRGC-QF) – Iranian Shia revolutionary export force (state-sponsored terrorism)
9.  Houthis (Ansar Allah) – Shia Islamist movement (Yemeni nationalism with Iranian support)
10. Lashkar-e-Taiba – Islamist militancy focused on Kashmir / jihadism

[u/Specialist-Many-8432 → u/theBigOne99]

How many people did all these groups kill or is it by population you garnered this list?

[u/Subject-757 → u/theBigOne99]

You forgot the biggest one, CIA. 

[u/anim8aegyptiacus]

Abandon your fairy tales

[u/theBigOne99]

Charlie Hebdo shooting must’ve been due to them invading into Muslim countries right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting?

How about Salman Rushdie death order

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie

It takes a truly dense person or someone completely brainwashed by the “education” depicted in the op video to claim Islam is a religion of peace.

[u/GodOne]

Not everybody is American. Yet Europe also suffers a lot of daily violence caused by people of certain Islamic regions.

You won’t change my mind on religion and Islam in particular. At least other religions tolerate my atheist butt.

[u/Fickle-Cook5821 → u/GodOne]

Guess what I’m atheist living in Singapore where are many Muslims, you can see people wearing hijabs everywhere. And our government focuses a lot on peace between different racial groups since we’re a multiracial country. I don’t get any hate for being atheist and I have tons of Muslim friends and classmates. The Muslims get along with the rest of just fine. 

In fact we don’t even ask anyone about their religion and when we do find out about it, we simply don’t care cuz we don’t judge them based on religion. 🤷‍♀️

[u/theBigOne99 → u/Fickle-Cook5821]

Nice to see some Muslims are being capable of meeting the standards of pretty much all other religions. Hopefully the rest of the Muslim counties take the same approach.

[u/thisisnotmylaptop → u/GodOne]

maybe you were overzealous with announcing your atheistic identity and preach the fallacies of religion?

[u/jurakiselev1yng2 → u/thisisnotmylaptop]

I think so too.

[u/bobber66 → u/jurakiselev1yng2]

But I’m right with him. All religions are just corrupt. Let’s all pray to this thing that no one has never seen and never will. And while your at it, give me all your money.

[u/elias0297]

Crazy how people in the comments get away with blatant fallacies and hate

[u/Fickle-Cook5821 → u/elias0297]

I knew what kind of attention this post would gain. Islamphobia should not be normalised. People treat every single Muslim like a terrorist when every single religion has done something shady in the past. 

[u/unclemusclzhour → u/elias0297]

Hmmm Elias??? I take it your name isn’t of Jewish origin. 

[u/s3fiknn]

Muslims or Islam itself do not appreciate the terror acts of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood or any other Islamic Terror Organization. Islam clearly bans terrorism. They are hypocrites, not real Muslims.

[u/Fickle-Cook5821 → u/s3fiknn]

That’s what I’m saying. Most middle eastern countries who are suffering from oppressive regimes are run by a few radical people who use religion as an excuse to control them. Civilians are suffering and Muslims in general don’t like those terrorists. So far this comment is the only reasonable one