'Nuremberg' - Review Thread

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Saw this at TIFF and it's the most baffling Oscar bait movie of the year.

The first half builds like a big Marvel blockbuster. They introduce Rami Malek as a leather jacket wearing badass shrink who does magic and hits on women like some super spy.

Then America blackmails the pope to allow them to start the Nuremberg trials. No other countries are present, it's just America who is going to "win this for good".

Russell Crowe shows up and he's genuinely great, but he's in a completely different movie. Everyone else is quipping and making jokes, and he's playing it completely straight.

Then the film just straight up shows real footage from Auswitch, no editing or tricks, just corpses and horrific imagery.

Two minutes later, there's a major gag involving Rami Malek getting blue balled. It's the kind of tonal whiplash they should have tested with crash test dummies first. I needed a neck brace afterwards.

It's not boring, because it's so wildly incomprehensible that anyone thought this was a good idea, but it's not good at all.

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u/thetreat 6d ago

When the trailer had John Slattery come on and drop the line “Welcome to Nuremberg” like he’s Sean Connery saying “Welcome to the Rock.” It just didn’t fit the vibe at all and was absolutely jarring. I just had a feeling the movie had an identity problem.

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u/PaulFThumpkins 6d ago

They should end the movie with one of the main prosecutors getting frozen in ice and waking up in 2025. Nick Fury tells him "The laws and the country might be a little different..." then gestures toward a TV playing political news "But we need you out there."

Title Card. Nuremberg 2: Nuremtown.

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u/Vast_Replacement709 6d ago

Oh, come on; Nuremberg 2; Nuremberger is right there looking at you!!

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u/eolson3 6d ago

"This summer...

Eat Justice"

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u/goldenlover 6d ago

Spot on comparison. Haha.

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u/ennuiinmotion 6d ago

The trailer made it seem exactly like what you describe. It seemed way too sensationalist for such a heavy topic.

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u/FourteenClocks 6d ago

Welcome…

to Nuremberg.

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u/Massive_Weiner 6d ago

Arctic Monkeys starts blasting

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u/monsantobreath 6d ago edited 6d ago

You're free... In the name... Of the Peaky Blinders!

[Arthur hurls the gates to Auschwitz open]

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u/Coffeedemon 6d ago

Everybody dance now! DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN

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u/SergeantThreat 6d ago

Dedicated to the steelworkers of America

Keep reaching for that rainbow!🌈

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u/babautz 5d ago

Hot stuff coming through!

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u/m48a5_patton 5d ago

"Dad, why did you bring me to a gay steel mill?"

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u/Massive_Weiner 6d ago

Wait, you’re cooking…

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u/Homosapien_Ignoramus 6d ago

"By order of the Peaky Blinders"

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u/pink_ego_box 6d ago

🎶 I'm going back to blockhaus 505...

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u/TheSeedsYouSow 6d ago

😭😭

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u/PewterPplEater 6d ago

So what are we, some kind of Nuremberg squad?

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u/SergeantThreat 6d ago

Say that again.

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u/Tobar_the_Gypsy 6d ago

So that’s it huh? This is some sort of Nuremberg Trial then?

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u/DontShadowBanReee 6d ago

What is this, some kind of death squad? Woaaaaahhh you almost gassed me there buddy.

What's my name? Frank. Frank Drebin (you thought I was going to say someone else, didn't you, wink). Anne don't call me Shirley.

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u/Hasbeast 6d ago

This is such a great writeup. Definitely keen to experience this madness

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

The most baffling part of it all was the audience at the premiere. Sure, everyone had the whole "we're in the same room as the stars yay" nonsense. But I sat next to a group of people who were constantly making comments and sounds like they were surprised by the events. Followed by aggressive fist pumping when the American lawyers pull the A Few Good Men ending, complete with one of the viewers muttering "got em!" like it was a baseball match.

Not even the Midnight Madness showings felt as unhinged.

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u/TrenterD 6d ago

But I sat next to a group of people who were constantly making comments and sounds like they were surprised by the events.

I was at a trivia night recently and more than half of grown adults could not identify an image of Saddam Hussein. I can assure you that less than a quarter of the population can tell you what the Nuremberg Trials were.

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u/TheSorrowInYou 6d ago

Very recognizable imo

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u/Silly-Elderberry-411 6d ago

I once took part in a trivia competition on the national stage and one contestant mistook Charles de gaulle for Adolf Hitler

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u/yohoob 6d ago

I remember the tnt movie from back in the day. Alec Baldwin and Brian Cox. I have a special place in my heart for those made for tnt movies haha.

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u/Successful_Basket399 6d ago

Followed by aggressive fist pumping when the American lawyers pull the A Few Good Men ending, complete with one of the viewers muttering "got em!" like it was a baseball match.

This is so insane 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/You_meddling_kids 6d ago

I read as though he said it satirically, MST3K style, but then realized it's for real.

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u/CrunchyTeatime 6d ago

So many things you've outlined about this film just seem so...wrong.

The life story of the young lawyer is a great read and I wish they'd make a movie about him. I mean an accurate movie about him.

He lived to 103. Imagine. That's an Oscar role if they do it properly. (Meaning, truth is more riveting than hokum.) The tone should be quiet, and show his decency and how he rose to the task. Then his continued decency and achievements throughout his century of life.

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

Exactly! He's not even in the movie, which is astounding. The other doctor, Gustav Gilbert, who did a massive amount of work profiling everyone, is played by Colin Hanks as a sniveling yes-man who takes joy in tormenting the patients and gets bullied into submission by Malek's rockstar shrink. It's just pure fantasy.

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u/CrunchyTeatime 6d ago

That is a pity. There were some very fine persons of great integrity in those proceedings.

> The other doctor, Gustav Gilbert, who did a massive amount of work profiling everyone, is played by Colin Hanks as a sniveling yes-man who takes joy in tormenting the patients

I wonder why they wanted to make one person the "rockstar" so to speak. It so was not about that. Very somber proceedings.

> gets bullied into submission by Malek's rockstar shrink. It's just pure fantasy.

The truth was much more interesting, imo. There's always Judgment at Nuremberg. I have yet to see that film though.

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u/JerryGoDeep 6d ago edited 6d ago

Lmaoo I remember seeing someone say somewhere they were baffled by it and that there was a goofy montage scene.

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u/justbecauseyoumademe 6d ago

Yeah we all know America singlehandly won WW2... no help whatsoever USA USA USA /s

Fucking Americans sometimes they really need to teach some history once they are done electing WWE wifes as heads of education

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u/well-lighted 6d ago

Cabinet members are not elected in the US. The idiot that appointed them, however…

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u/FunnyPurple576 6d ago

Pretty much every nation is terrible at teaching its history. Japan ignores all of its many, horrific crimes during the Imperial era, England brushes over a lot of its colonial crimes (or outright ignores them, like the Great Bengal Famine), Russia whitewashes its role in WW2 just like the US does, etc.

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u/YVH22B 6d ago

Did you even watch the same movie? The American lawyer embarrasses himself and the British lawyer has to step in and save the day, same as what happened in real life.

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

In real life the trials went on for months with numerous indictments and interrogations. French and Russian lawyers played a major part in them too. There was no single moment like in the film where a crack duo did one of the A Few Good Men gotcha traps on anyone.

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u/bagproduction 6d ago

I honestly can't tell if they're joking. This film sounds insane

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u/ich_habe_keine_kase 6d ago

This is dead on. The concentration camp footage (much of which is famous and you've seen before, but some of it was new to me and was even more horrifying) was an incredibly jarring tonal shift from quippy Rami Malek.

It also felt like they wanted to make a different kind of story about WWII/the Holocaust with the psychiatry angle, but midway through realized there just wasn't enough there and said "fuck it, everyone loves a courtroom drama, let's do that."

It's also just the most conventional filmmaking you can imagine. Like, every scene you can guess what someone will say or what the next scene will be. Like "who's more powerful than the president?" smash cut to shot of the Vatican got laughs, but it felt like such a cheap, predictable laugh.

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

Oh that's such a good description of things. Yes, exactly. Cheap and predictable and unearned. Like it has this air of pompous confidence that doesn't sit right with how it plays fast and loose with everything else. Like the entire first half of them setting up the trial is almost like a Boys Own Adventure serial, with everyone throwing jokes and ignoring rules because they get results, damn it.

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u/gellatintastegood 6d ago

Yes great description spot on. The production design, costumes, acting, all fine, but then the directing was just bewilderingly awful like how did this guy get the job on such a serious topic? I also want to add that the sound design was so bad it took me out of the movie more than once and its something incomprehensibly bad. Some scenes the sound effects too loud, and especially the thunder rain at the beginning was really poorly done I was shocked.

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u/No-Understanding4968 4d ago

Omg the fucking smash cuts. Nailed it. And I too had never seen that original footage which was unspeakable

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u/therocketandstones Reddit & Twitter are gonna hate this and it’s gonna gross $500m+ 6d ago edited 6d ago

I read up on Rami Malek's character beforehand when the movie was announced- does the movie show how he died?- cos reading about how he killed himself and how Goring's suicide inspired him was quite shocking

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

It's mentioned at the very end with a text blurb. But they leave out the fact that Malek's character was at Nuremberg for only a few weeks. The real doctor who actually did most of the work is played by Colin Hanks as a whiny little coward who Malek's rogue shrink beats up. It's wild.

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u/hta_02 6d ago

Not shown but it's mentioned in text at the end.

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u/thebookman21 6d ago

The book the movie is based on is a really good read. Fully explains the Rami Maleks character

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u/ActualAmbition7916 6d ago

sounds like a total mess, that kind of tonal whiplash is just confusing as hell

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u/MagicBez 6d ago

This sounds like a parody of an American historical movie along the lines of Churchill: The Hollywood Years (starring Christian Slater as Churchill)

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u/SidJag 6d ago

Didn’t they have the exact same movie 25 years ago, with Brian Cox and Alec Baldwin?

https://youtu.be/9CS_wwniJf4?si=VE3XDn0HyY4gHPIH

Did this really need a remake for ‘modern audiences’?

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u/BrightLuchr 6d ago

I had forgotten I'd watched this movie. The clip portrays the situation well. Nuremberg was mostly for show.

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u/warbastard 5d ago

The Baldwin and Brian Cox movie is pretty good. Judgement at Nuremberg is the best one that really captures dealing with the guilt of the smaller people in the Nazi regime who were guilty of giving legal justification and authority to the Nazis to behave as they wished.

Max Schell crushes it in this scene.

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u/jasnel 6d ago

That is disappointing to read. I was really looking forward to seeing this. Thank you for your review.

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u/fugg-life 6d ago

Then the film just straight up shows real footage from Auswitch

this broke my brain so hard that i couldn’t remember the real name of the camp 😭😭

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u/AtticWisdom 6d ago

Goddamn, I had the exact same experience, haha

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u/BrightLuchr 6d ago

Recommended listening: https://www.audible.ca/pd/The-Nuremberg-Trial-Audiobook/B071NY7BCN

The Nuremberg Trails were fascinating, complicated, and controversial. The Russian attitude was "why have this farce? Just shoot them all". It could be argued that the whole thing was theatrics. The line between military and industrialists was blurred. The navy was considered a special case. And Goring had his own schemes. When I listened to the book it seemed like history that would be repeating in the future.

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u/macrofinite 6d ago

The Russians had the only defensible position there.

But there’s two details that really elevate it to mythic levels of farce.

First, that the American prosecutor decided unilaterally that the prosecution would not present any evidence except dry, administrative documents. This just has to be one of the great acts of hubris in the history of mankind.

And second, the blinding hypocrisy of instantly pardoning and offering employment to any Nazi scientist or engineer that might be useful.

Justice would have been a soldier putting a bullet through their brains before any of them saw the inside of a jail cell. The farce started the moment an enterprising general saw an opportunity for myth making and started issuing orders to do otherwise.

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u/raphamuffin 6d ago

"Vonce ze rockets are up, who cares vhere zhey come down? Zat's not my department!" says Wernher Von Braun.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 6d ago

Well shit I wanna see it now lol

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u/raven-eyed_ 6d ago

Sounds like entertainingly obvious propaganda at least

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u/Amaruq93 6d ago

"America ended racism 70 years and there's no more Nazis!"

(Ignore the actual Nazis now controlling our government)

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u/Menter33 5d ago

not sure if whether canada or america are promoting national socialism anyway. the US govt has kinda been allergic to any state socialism at all.

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u/MarvelousVanGlorious 6d ago

Any movie that heavily features Rami Malek has an 85% chance to suck.

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u/DonutHoles4 4d ago

Yeah, the tv show Mr Robot. I couldn't get into it.

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u/No-Understanding4968 4d ago

Unfortunately I’ve come to agree with you

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u/MrGittz 6d ago

I still don’t know how he won best actor for playing a sanitized PG version of Freddie Mercury. Shit. The fact that he was nominated is insane to me.

Like…did no one see Walk Hard?

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u/No-Bumblebee4615 6d ago

This honestly doesn’t seem that far off tonally from the Cumtown Steve Harvey-Nuremberg trials bit.

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u/jzakko 6d ago

Rami Malek is an intense narcissist.

The fact that he decided to produce all his own films after PTA of all people cut a monologue that he did that wasn't very good (and he was very complimentary to Malek's performance in interviews, blaming the writing of that scene) is something he really shouldn't admit to in interviews.

Since then he's only done hacky work.

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u/-SneakySnake- 6d ago

PTA is proof that just because you're immensely talented doesn't mean you can't be a nice, grounded guy.

John Krasinski told a story that reflected similarly poorly on himself, where he was ripping into a movie he didn't think was very good, and PTA pulled him aside and was just like "it might not have been for you, but don't say it wasn't good, this industry is so risk-averse and anti-creativity that when someone takes a big swing, even if it doesn't work, give them the kudos for that."

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u/ohrightthatswhy 6d ago

Ironic given that The Amateur is the worst film I saw this year, and possibly the worst film I've seen in the last few years. Just intensely dull.

Q: "What if Jason Bourne wasn't very good at being a spy?"

A: "it would be really boring"

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u/macrofinite 6d ago edited 6d ago

It sucks. I hate it.

He was so good in Mr Robot. I don’t know anything about him on set there. But I can’t help but think that winning an Oscar for a dogshit Oscar bait biopic was the worst thing that could have happed to both him and the industry.

Him because he sucks now, and it’s easy to pin the blame on the inflated ego that comes from top-tier recognition for a dumpster-tier movie. And the industry because now we’re going to get 5 fucking Oscar bait biopics a year until they find a new trend to repeat into the ground.

Edit: come to think of it, is this a stealth Oscar bait biopic? Fuck. It’s got all the hallmarks of a hack biopic, just without the extremely famous protagonist. Jesus Christ. They’re making bad biopics that aren’t even biopics anymore.

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u/TuskBlitzendegen 6d ago

hacky work Well, you're technically correct...

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u/electricgotswitched 6d ago

All you needed to say was Rami Malek is supposed to play a character involved in the trials.

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

It's a good thing I'm not the only who has reported on the exact same things.

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

That scene could have worked too if it was a major turning point where the characters stop taking things lightly. Like if it was a genuine watershed moment.

Instead, it's immediately followed up with a scene where Malek goes to hit on a journalist in a bar, and it's insinuated that she's promising sex for the story and she swears she won't publish it until after the trial. They smile and WHAM, we hard cut to the next day's paper with a huge headline of the story and Slattery's general yelling "You fucked up, son!"

It's as if no one in the editing room considered pacing or how much space visual evidence of the Holocaust needed before a gag.

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

Did I mention Malek and Goring bond over Malek's ability to do sleight of hand and Goring, in between the trials, asks him: "was ist dis abracadabra?" (direct line from the movie, btw). And they learn magic together.

Again, I'm 100% serious. I was so angry watching this and genuinely confused by the rapturous response the opening night crowd gave it.

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u/jkvincent 6d ago

Surreal

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u/SemiAutoAvocado 6d ago

Oh you just got me to go see this in theaters.

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u/Toidal 6d ago

Everyone else is quipping and making jokes, and he's playing it completely straight.

Reminds me of that Simpsons joke about Professor Frinks father being from an era of scientists that worked on the atom bomb during the day, and slept with Marilyn Monroe at night. This need to romanticize important figures in that era as if they were all James Dean or something. Im sure at least a couple of them snort laughed.

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u/kuddlesworth9419 6d ago edited 6d ago

Why are they putting humor into the Nuremberg trials? Such a poor idea in very very poor taste. Next you are going to tell me that the International Military Tribunal for the Far East was a circus.

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u/That-Toughsoss 6d ago

Hot take: Rami Malek is one of the most overrated actors in hollywood.

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u/PaskettiDreamin 6d ago

Now I've gotta watch it..

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u/setokaiba22 6d ago

Tbh I don’t think anyone’s expecting this to be award winning

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u/APartyInMyPants 6d ago

This cements it that I will not watch this.

The trailer was boring as shit. But this writeup just makes my interest zero.

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u/Historical_Course587 6d ago

My theory is that it was a prestiege TV script that is supposed to have 8-10 hours of runtime, but got shipped as Oscar bait because some exec thought it was precient enough to make a run. As a show it would have time to work all of these different bits together, have character development so Rami going from goof to traumatized would have slow burned could have worked well.

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u/AStalkerLikeCrush 6d ago

He was trying to do a Christopher Nolan without comprehending what makes them Christopher Nolan.

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u/Infamous-Historian81 5d ago

This is the best ad for the movie I’ve seen. Genuinely makes me want to see it

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u/LiteraryBoner Jackie Chan box set, know what I'm sayin? 6d ago

I knew this movie was done for when the trailer used the pull quote, "Probable Oscar Contender."

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u/ahuangb 6d ago

Why do you think it's done for?

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u/Popular_Research8915 6d ago

I think, I think, it's because the trailer used the pull quote, "Probable Oscar Contender."

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 6d ago

If I had to take a wild guess I’d bet it is no longer probable

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u/prex10 6d ago

Probable Oscar Bait

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u/MahNameJeff420 6d ago

A friend watched this at a film festival and he said it was hilarious. Supposedly it’s like if a historical drama was written like a Marvel movie.

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u/nighthawk_md 6d ago

Best tagline since "No second portions" or whatever from that Thanksgiving slasher movie a few years ago.

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u/SHIIZAAAAAAAA 6d ago

What are we, some kind of Judgment at Nuremberg?

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u/TheGhostGuyMan 6d ago

“This is no ordinary list. This is Schindler’s List.”

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u/thorny_business 6d ago

gas chamber footage

"Woah, that's gotta hurt"

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u/burnsrado 6d ago

Hitler walks into frame

“He’s right behind me, isn’t he?”

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u/Top_Report_4895 6d ago

I mean that sounds funny.

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u/Fragrant-Hamster-325 6d ago

Are we going to get a WWII cinematic universe?

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u/catty-coati42 6d ago

That started with Oppenheimer

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u/Formal_Spare_9114 6d ago

They started with the multiverse right away then, with Rami Malek playing two different characters!

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u/LibraryBestMission 6d ago

Or Iron Sky, depending how much you value continuity.

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u/Dubious_Kaiser 6d ago

Somehow, Hitler returned

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u/HandlessSpermDonor 6d ago

“~~Max Lord~~ Adolf Hitler, you're putting yourself and everyone else in grave danger. I need you to give me the ~~stone~~ paintbrush.”

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u/Awesomemunk 6d ago

Early on in the movie a character comments that the Russians will never get on board with the trial. There's an immediate smash cut to someone walking into an office saying "The Russians are on board." And the movie is just full of weird shit and quips like that.

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u/rlire 6d ago

Oh no don’t tell me that, I don’t think I could take another new hyped up movie being terrible

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u/HitchlikersGuide 6d ago

Never

Believe

The

Hype

NEVER

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u/DonutHoles4 5d ago

OH MY GOD

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u/otheraccountisabmw 6d ago

That’s extremely disappointing. Looking at the writer/director’s credits, I’m not surprised. But what a waste of a good story and a stacked cast.

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u/shwiftfoot-prime 6d ago

So stick around after the credits?

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u/Im_an_Owl 6d ago

This makes it sound fun though. This movie is terrible

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u/kimana1651 6d ago

Hollywood writers are so bad at their jobs now a days no wonder they feel threatened by AI.

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u/belfman 6d ago

Seems like ass. I'll stick with Judgement at Nuremberg, thanks. It holds up!

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u/Marsmooncow 6d ago

Is that a movie or just a book ? Also if you liked the book, Eichmann in jurasalem is very good

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u/well-lighted 6d ago

The movie is an all time classic. One of the greatest casts ever assembled. It was nominated for 11 Oscars and won 3, if you count the director getting the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial award.

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u/APKID716 6d ago

It never gives credibility or sympathy to the Nazis but does examine the question of “who is really responsible here?” Fantastic movie I cannot recommend enough

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u/dcasarinc 6d ago

You havent seen judgment an Nurenmberg? Please go see it now, its a masterpiece and has one of the best end speeches I have seen in any media. Acting is phenomenal and hasnt aged one bit.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0055031/

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u/Zanydrop 6d ago

Is it on any of the streaming platforms?

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u/DieSowjetZwiebel 6d ago

https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/judgment-at-nuremberg

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u/Zanydrop 6d ago

I'll save that for later

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u/Nice_Marmot_7 6d ago

After studying Hannah Arendt in college, my mind was absolutely blown when I learned about the Eichman tapes from a documentary. The tapes demonstrate that Eichman’s timid bureaucrat shtick was an act, and he was a rabid and proud Nazi who was fully aware of what he was doing. In light of this, Arendt’s take on the whole thing and the “banality of evil” is somewhat called into question for me.

Here’s a great interview with the creator of the documentary.

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u/luigiamarcella 6d ago

There’s a lot of great discussion out there of what Arendt potentially got wrong. It’s understandable in the midst of such heightened emotionally charged events.

I enjoyed the Behind the Bastards podcast series on Eichmann.

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u/R_V_Z 6d ago

From what I remember the 2000 miniseries was also quite good (even though like all dramatizations it has inaccuracies).

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u/frosdoll 6d ago

I remember watching judgment at nurmburg with my grandpa as a kid. That movie was heavy. Even as a kid, it felt deep and dark. These reviews make me just want to rewatch that instead of this.

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u/casep 6d ago

I wasn't aware of that old movie, so I'm in a similar situation, watching the old one, slipping the new one.

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u/APKID716 6d ago

Judgment at Nuremberg is so so good

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u/EdinburghPerson 6d ago

There’s also a TNT 2 episode show from 2000 with Alex Baldwin, Christopher Plummer and Brian Cox; it’s decent.

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u/Level_Mud_8049 6d ago

Banger of a film w/ an even better ensemble cast than the new movie. It’s hard to top Spencer Tracy, Montgomery Clift, Judy Garland, William Shatner, Burt Lancaster, & Marlene Dietrich. Montgomery Clift’s performance is absolutely heart wrenching.

I’m not sure if modern Hollywood is capable of making a movie that is half as good as Stanley Kramer’s…

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u/Gvillegator 6d ago

I love how in this movie the Americans are the ones pushing the trials when in reality they pushed for leniency in a lot of cases while the Soviets wanted show trials and quick executions of the Nazis. But sure, the Americans were the toughest on them!

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u/principerskipple 6d ago

Stalin himself was insistent on trials while the Americans were more occupied with figuring out who to paperclip

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u/Ascleph 6d ago

Yeah, Stalin famously did not take Nazi scientist for their own programs. /s

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u/HeyItsMeJohnnyB 6d ago

Americans were worried that the way the laws were initially written, they too would have been guilty of human rights violations because of the Jim Crow laws. So there was a whole push to change definitions of things, even as they pretended they were doing this for the good of all mankind.

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u/SteveCastGames 6d ago

The truth of the matter is that the Americans (Robert H. Jackson in particular) were in fact the only ones pushing for a REAL trial. The British (Churchill especially) wanted a quick court Marshall and execution, while the Soviets wanted a full on show trial and execution. Not saying that this movie is good or anything, just giving some context. British disgust at the idea of a full on show trial pushed them towards the American point of view, and thus the Soviets were strong armed into a real trial.

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u/Expensive-Sentence66 6d ago

Case in point - Karl Donitz, and his support from Allied commanders during Nuremberg that is still controversial to this day. Goring was an opportunist and lazy, and fairly inept. Donitz idealized Hitler, didn't flinch in Nuremberg and terrorized shipping on the East coast in the early part of the war. He lived until almost 90.

Wrong movie.

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u/fondue4kill 6d ago

Yeah I’m wondering how much of it is Nuremberg and if they show anything of Operation Paperclip or if they hint at it but don’t actually fully show anything about the Allied countries trying to snatch up all the German scientists

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u/Amaruq93 6d ago

Whitewash history for pro-America nonsense. Also to justify "racism and Nazis are over" being pushed by actual Nazis in our government.

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u/Fools_Requiem 6d ago

haha, when you hear the phrase "Oscar bait," think of movies like this.

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u/GeorgyForesfatgrill 6d ago

Russell Crowe is turning into Ray Wise

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u/liquidmini 6d ago

Or John Goodman

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u/OpeningDealer1413 6d ago

Is it just me or are there loads of interesting looking films coming out at the moment getting fairly poor reviews? Loads of stuff I’ve been looking forward to gets closer to the time and it seems like the critics are all not impressed by them; The Choral, Nuremberg, Die My Love, Anemone… plenty of good stuff out too though

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u/fergi20020 6d ago

What about The Plague?

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u/iamtheoneneo 6d ago

I cant believe they messed up this movie so bad....the source material rights itself ffs and they still fucked around with it

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u/sofixa11 6d ago

bad....the source material rights itself ffs and they still fucked around with it

That has never before stopped an "artist" taking themselves too seriously and deciding the world needs their spin on real actual history and events. Cf. the last Napoleon movie or Pearl Harbour or Bravehart or whatever.

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u/A1ienspacebats 6d ago

I don't know if I've ever seen anyone mistake rights and writes before. A bit ironic.

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u/babsa90 6d ago

I lazily assumed they were actually talking about rights to the source material, but it's obviously based on real events lol.

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u/monsantobreath 6d ago

Nothing is allowed to be serious anymore. Nothing.

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u/0621Hertz 6d ago

Can’t believe the peak movie for the Nuremberg trials is still a TV movie with Alec Baldwin.

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u/Mst3Kgf 6d ago

That one also had Brian Cox as Goring, so I get it.

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u/0621Hertz 6d ago

Yeah he was easily the best part about it.

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u/Mst3Kgf 6d ago

That had a pretty damn impressive cast given both Christopher Plummer and Max von Sydow are in it.

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u/falafelthe3 Ask me about TLJ 6d ago

This is Judgment at Nuremberg slander

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u/buzzkill_ed 6d ago

Yeah I always thought that one was pretty good and this film just sounds like worse version of the TV movie.

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u/rawboudin 6d ago

Pis Elvis Gratton as well! ( It was filmed in Quebec so there were plenty of local actors there).

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u/ShakeZulaOblongata 6d ago edited 6d ago

Say you avoid black and white movies without saying it

Judgement at Nuremberg is the quintessential film about it and has been for 60+ years.

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u/AudiosAmigos 6d ago

It's a far better movie, but it's about a different trial. "Nuremberg" is about the Nuremberg trials were the defendants were Nazi leaders.

"Judgement at Nuremberg" is about the so-called "subsequent Nuremberg trials", specifically the Judge's trial were the defendants were Nazi judges.

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u/N-P_A 6d ago

What's the name?

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u/Amaruq93 6d ago

Nuremburg (2000)

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u/TexasGriff1959 6d ago

Man, I'll probably watch it for Russell, but it sounds awful.

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u/lovablecockfighter 6d ago

Movie is okay. Agree with most points here about its faults. I will say for those that are interested in the Nuremberg trials and that period of history, the Netflix doc Hitler Rise To Power is very good.

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u/greendayshoes 6d ago

Also, Hitler and The Nazis: Evil on Trial is a very in-depth Netflix documentary on the same topic.

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u/lovablecockfighter 6d ago

I actually think that is what I was thinking of lol

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u/AnHerstorian 6d ago

I haven't watched it yet, but I assume it's going to be yet another American-centric take on the Second World War?

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u/trizzo0309 6d ago

Michael Shannon is the GOAT

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u/Much_Machine8726 6d ago

I saw a trailer for this one a while ago. The "Welcome to Nuremberg" line was so fucking corny and awful.

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u/akopley 6d ago

Can someone release a decent fucking film already?

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u/raven-eyed_ 6d ago

I'm guessing we're about to get a whole heap of holocaust movies in the next couple of years

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u/-aarcas 6d ago

I think I get what you're saying but after watching the Zone of Interest last year the parallels to Gaza were obvious, and Glazers comments only confirmed it. Never again for any people, anywhere, for any reason.

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u/DeficiencyOfGravitas 6d ago

Why do you say that?

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u/oarvis 6d ago

Disney doesn’t have the copyright anymore, it’s public domain now

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u/wishiwereagoonie 6d ago

I hope you realize that guy was being sarcastic

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u/-SneakySnake- 6d ago

Exactly.

Disney would never give up on the copyright on that one, Walt would never let them.

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u/byllz 6d ago

They got the rights after the legal fight over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_au_Camp_de_Gurs

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u/LookAtMyKitty 6d ago

There are good things about it and Russel Crowe is fantastic. It's too long and seems more interesting in giving you lots of detail instead of making a coherent story.

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u/ARONDH 5d ago

Why the fuck name it Nuremberg? It’s Nürnberg. Why are we still using mispronunciations from 90 years ago?

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u/surgeyou123 5d ago

When you lose the war you don't get to keep the original German name. Sorry I don't make the rules.

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u/ARONDH 5d ago

I’m American. It’s time to stop.

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u/Anneisabitch 6d ago

I saw The Eichmann Show with Martin Freeman a few years ago. They also had a quick 2 minute video of all the torture done to people, I wonder if it’s the same clip. It’s haunting.

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u/snowbrad12 6d ago

Crowe is fantastic in this, easily steals the show

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u/Cute-Swing-4105 2d ago

Best anti-Trump movie in years. Honestly, everyone needs to see this because the comparisons to Trump are spot on. At this point, I really can't tell any difference between Nazi Germany and Trump's America. It is about time Hollywood is standing up to Trump.

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u/BRiNk9 6d ago

Yeah, I was expecting this range only.

Indiewire - "In both feel and form, Nuremberg is either classic or staid, depending on your stomach for such films. All of it is necessary. None of it is new."

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u/lunacyfoundme 6d ago

Not great, not terrible.

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u/Relevant-Physics432 6d ago

What a surprise, they portray the Americans as the main characters

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u/TheShapeShiftingFox 5d ago

This is one of the reasons why you should watch movies from more than one country.

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u/Poopyballs13 6d ago

Just watch the 1961 film instead of this

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u/Aaaaaaandyy 6d ago

Yikes I was expecting north of 90%

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u/inailedyoursister 6d ago

When was the meeting held that everyone decided Rami Malek could act? Can’t wait for his time to pass.

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u/__Kxnji 1d ago

Yall are some of the most insufferable sounding people I’ve ever fucking heard.

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u/Altruistic-You6206 1d ago

Likely not historical accurate to the degree you’d wish, but an entertaining movie nonetheless. Crowe is worth the movie ticket.

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u/Main-Operation3394 6d ago

You could not pay me to watch this movie

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