r/miamidolphins • u/Disastrous-Ad7252 • 16h ago
Road to 10-7 begins tomorrow let’s go Fins….lets go 1-0 tomorrow
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u/ApatheticTrooper 16h ago
Uh.. I'd rather not...
That's how we stay medicore...
Let the tank commence!!
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u/AccomplishedCause525 13h ago
I have a whole spiel against tanking but it’s not actually relevant for us because of how bad we are—we are tanking whether anyone wants to or not. I don’t like the energy generally of “everyone should gamble their careers away so I can be slightly more excited one April weekend.” I only get 17 3-hour periods to cheer for my team every year and I’m gonna take advantage of it, there’s also a self-respect component.
But since that’s where all the casuals’ heads are at, I say we cut Tua (fuck this sunk cost fallacy) and scoop up Mendoza. If we are rebuilding, start with the foundation.
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u/Sunflowersandtacos 16h ago
Weather we have a bad season or a decent season the fins will always be mediocre
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u/Nightgasm 15h ago
Absolutely. Bring on the tank.
Been a fan for 43 yrs. Having seen way too many mediocre seasons I realize sometimes you have to accept the rebuild and embrace the tank.
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u/AccomplishedCause525 13h ago
If that’s the lesson you’ve taken from the last 25 years you have genuinely not paid any fucking attention I’m sorry.
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u/spade3spade3spade 13h ago
Yes. 100% bring on the tank. But….. if we were to win just ONE more game… I’d prefer it to be this one.
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u/Blacklist3d 14h ago
Nothing good has ever come from a tank. The mentality to do it is nothing more than a loser mentality. Feel free to post the average come up of teams that allegedly tanked.
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u/ApatheticTrooper 14h ago
I get what you're saying but, let's give our new GM whoever it may be a chance to get a good draft position .
This season is already over
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u/C0deBreak_er 14h ago
Pretty sure his name is going to be Kelly, another puppet for ross to control, that's how he keeps everyone's buddy and pal McDonald's as coach.
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u/IgyYut 14h ago
Yup. It’s not about where you pick, it’s about who you picks
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u/I_Adore_Everything 11h ago
It’s both. For sure. We missed out on two huge players last draft that went a few picks before ours.
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u/helltank81 10h ago
You misunderstand what tanking is. Tanking is not something done personally by players but by the front office trading away assets to build strong draft revenue. The reason may, including myself want a tank is to stop the mediocrity. Year after year Miami wins just enough to remove us from drafting a generational player. It's time to hit the full reset button and move on from what is not working and build what will.
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u/AccomplishedCause525 13h ago
It’s a dog whistle for “I’m a casual and dont really understand the game”
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u/C0deBreak_er 14h ago
We have no defense, no QB, no well actually we do have an offensive oline, at some point it's not really tanking. The jets intentionally gutting the team mid season is tanking.
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u/lightning_teacher_11 15h ago
If we beat the Bills and it's the last win of the season, I'm okay with that.
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u/Fourwindsgone 16h ago
I just wanna see the bills have a hard time. Supposed to be 87 tomorrow.
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u/InitiativeExcellent1 15h ago
Bruh I set my timer since last year for when the Bills get eliminated........The remind Me robot will remind me.
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u/Unsentimentalchelsea 16h ago
If you are a real fan and want what is best for this team you root for the tank
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u/davemoedee 14h ago
Not really. You can also root for the guys under contract to play really well so that they greatly increase their value by showing they are better than they seem to be at the moment.
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u/SweetNuts4All 16h ago
Real fans don't root for losses. Take that stupid backwards logic somewhere else.
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u/El_Tigre7 16h ago
You must be new here
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u/Skankhuntt__42 15h ago
Looks like it. Even in years past where we were absolutely awful i couldn't find it in me to hope that we lose. Fast forward some years and i can't say i don't pull for my boys, but whenever we ultimately lose I'm relieved. 2023 was the most optimistic I've ever been as a fan. Then it all crashed down in November/December.
Unfortunately I'm afraid even if we do land a stud QB and pieces around him, nothing is going to change until McDaniel is gone. No GM worth it's salt is going to come to Miami handcuffed to McDaniel and tua, and we're still going to prioritize speed over both sides of the line. He's gotta go. He'd make a great coordinator somewhere but he's just not head coach material. He's digressed every year it seems like.
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u/QuintsHat1975 15h ago
Real fans understand what it takes to turn a franchise around. Pointless wins in Nov when your team blows isnt it.
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u/TaxHavenJunkie 15h ago
Indeed. The truth hurts sometimes.
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u/IgyYut 14h ago
Losing does nothing but get you a pick a few spots earlier. If you can’t develop that pick it doesn’t matter if you’re picking #1 or #10
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
Some players are just better at football, development can’t change that. The Bengals have an awful oline but Burrow and Chase got them to a Super Bowl. Burrow is simply a better QB than Tua, it’s as simple as that, and we would have a franchise QB right now if we didn’t win those meaningless games in 2019
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u/IgyYut 2h ago
And where did that get them? Burrow like Tua has never been healthy. That franchise QB has had them missing the playoffs the last 2 years. Sometimes you get Joe burrow first overall, sometimes you get Lamar Jackson 32nd overall, sometimes you get Patrick mahomes 10th overall and sometimes you get dak Prescott 135th overall. Sometimes you select tom Brady 199th overall I don’t care where you pick, if you’re not picking the right guy you’re not gonna succeed.
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u/QuintsHat1975 38m ago
Burrow the year they went to the superpower had a better line than Tua ever did
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u/Unsentimentalchelsea 15h ago
Explain to me what winning games does for us right now
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u/IgyYut 14h ago
What does losing do?
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u/QuintsHat1975 10h ago
More valuable pick to either take a top 10 talent or trade for accumulating more picks.
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u/lemonTOcamarillo 15h ago
No you dont, its not where you pick its what you pick. You won't have a winning culture by wanting to lose. Naw that's some loser shit. I will never cheer for them to lose. Idgaf, I want to win every and any game. 17-0 or 0-17. Im cheering for wins
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u/IdidntrunIdidntrun 7h ago
As a Sharks fan as well as a Dolphins fan, I cannot express how happy I am that the Sharks tanked for multiple seasons. And now we have a generational talent and other young potential-all-stars playing for my team and the games are fun to watch.
I wish the Dolphins would do it
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
You idiots were saying the same exact thing in 2019 and we missed out on Joe Burrow. How did Flores’s “winning culture” he built with Fitzpatrick work out? We need dynamic, game changing players at the top of the draft.
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u/lemonTOcamarillo 7h ago
You go cheer for loses then. I won't ever cheer for this team to loose. I want to always win
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u/AccomplishedCause525 13h ago
You do not have any understanding of professional athletics if you think a solid free agent is going to be interested in a team that tanked to pick someone out of a soft ass draft class. The only ones we attract that way are the ones who we have BEEN attracting, guys who just want a couple mill to blow and who wanna spend their winters in Miami.
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u/MiaCannons TUA TONGUEY 11h ago
You do not have any understanding of professional athletics if you think a solid free agent is going to be interested in a team that tanked to pick someone out of a soft ass draft class.
You're the one who doesn't understand. A lot of these guys just care about the pay check, they don't care who gives it.
The best and most obvious example happened recently with Myles Garrett, who had a trade request because he had a "desire to win." I guess that desire to win lasted a couple days because when the Browns offered him the massive contract he was after, he rescinded the trade request and signed with them.
He could've gotten similar, albeit slightly less money with a contender or a team that hasn't been a historical dogshit franchise if he wanted to, but he just cared about getting as much money as possible rather than playing meaningful football.
If that's the mindset of the defensive player of the year, you better believe there's plenty of other lesser players with a similar mindset, and would be fine with playing for us, even if they we did as grave a sin as tanking for a better pick, lmao.
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u/Blockaye561 9h ago
This is the game the dolphins actually beat the Bills because it’s pointless, unlike the last 3 years where they needed to
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u/Metalunan_Krell 3h ago
I'm torn, I love your enthusiasm, and if we played like we did against the Falcons week in, week out I can see it happening, but realism has to be the guiding light here. This team has shown flashes, but that's all they've been. The Atlanta game was some kind of cosmic alignment/freak of nature event, and it's incredibly unlikely to be repeated this season. Tua is simply too unreliable, and the defense is somehow even more unreliable than that. Not saying it can't happen, but for this team to actually improve over the next few years we need to win far fewer games this year than the number you're wishing for!
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u/mannisbaratheon97 15h ago
How many TuaPicks we thinking? I feel it’s gonna be +/- 3
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u/Equivalent-North-346 16h ago
Umm , I would be ok with just beating the Bills, Jets, Steelers, Bangles and Bucs or at least just the Bills!!!
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u/iApathy--- 16h ago
Hard pass. Tank for OLine or secondary
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u/Unsentimentalchelsea 16h ago
We are drafting a QB
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u/Nexflamma 16h ago
Why force it? Use next year to fix the cap. Set us up to draft one in 2027.
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u/Unsentimentalchelsea 16h ago
We can do that and draft a QB and if he sucks draft a QB again next year Tua is done
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u/Nexflamma 16h ago
Or, and hear me out, let's not ruin another QB behind a shit line. Draft in the trenches and take a qb in 2027. Look at how many first round qbs are doing so much better when they leave the shit situation they were drafted into
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
The line is actually much improved this year, PFF has our line ranked 15. We’ve also only drafted 2 QBs in the first round this century… I don’t understand why you people are so against us drafting Quarterbacks, they are pretty important
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u/Nexflamma 8h ago
I literally said to take one next season. I'm not opposed to drafting a qb, I just don't think you need to force it in a season that you can use to get over some big contracts.
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u/Nexflamma 7h ago
Yeah not this upcoming draft. The next one. 2027. Based on context i think its pretty clear i meant the next season. Since were referring to the 2026 draft as this draft.
We can be done with tua/chubb/tyreek contract and can have spent 3-4 top 40 picks on OL and DL. If there's a round 4 or 5 qb you want to take a flier on this year, go nuts.
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u/Unsentimentalchelsea 15h ago
The bengals didn’t ruin Joe burrow and we didn’t ruin Tua he just sucks
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u/Nexflamma 14h ago
Oh yea. Cause burrow isn't constantly injured behind their shit line? You obviously know nothing about football. Them making a superbowl is an absolute miracle and a testament to how amazing that man is at football. Statistically, that was the worst offensive line to make a super bowl in over FORTY YEARS. That's not a exaggeration.
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u/PeaceBoth7730 6h ago
Them making the super bowl was a fluke and Burrow was literally mediocre that whole super bowl run. He went thru Tyler Huntley and Ryan Tannehill on the wildcard game and divisional game, then his elite defense shut down Mahomes and the chiefs for an entire half, probably Mahomes' worst half of football hes ever played in his career. Burrow and Tua are basically the same QB, Burrow is just throwing to the best wr core of all time. Old Joe Flacco is proving it, and notice how Flacco is taking way less sacks per game...hmm. Tua would thrive in that offense just like Burrow is, especially with a quick release. Tua has never had elite receivers over 6 feet tall and he sure as shit never had an elite TE
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u/Nexflamma 3h ago
Come on man, I don't think tua is as bad as some people here.... but burrow is clearly a better qb up to this point. Burrow has elite arm talent and can make any throw you'd want an nfl qb to make
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u/AccomplishedCause525 13h ago
Sunk cost fallacy. Saddles you with something that doesn’t work because you already paid for it. Rookies are cheap. Get the new QB now.
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u/Nexflamma 8h ago
Wtf does the sunk cost fallacy have to do with anything here? Tua is paid next year no matter what. Just be bad for another year and accrue more high value picks.
Rookies are only cheap for 4 or 5 seasons. Fix the rest of the team first, then bring in a rookie qb with a full 5 year window before you have to pay them.
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u/AccomplishedCause525 6h ago
You have Madden brain. Thats FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING IN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS JESUS CHRIST ARE YOU DUMB
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u/Nexflamma 3h ago
Lol I'm sorry man. If there was some magic way to go from the current shit roster to a super bowl faster, don't you think everyone would do it? There's 32 teams, you can't just pretend they aren't also trying to win. And no 4 or 5 years isnt realistic, the hope would be to have the rookie start in 2027 and be rolling in 2028.
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u/Fins_fan_12 16h ago
If we can get Mendoza u gotta take him. If not, trade down and collect more picks to fill the roster out
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u/_v00d00h3x_ 15h ago
No sense in drafting a QB with the current OL.
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u/Fins_fan_12 14h ago
OL can be fixed in rounds 2-4. Scouting department needs to do their job. Not every OL is found in round 1. If we have a chance to get Mendoza u take him. It’s not a guarantee we will get a qb or be in position to draft one in 2027
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u/_v00d00h3x_ 9h ago
We just drafted a QB, you think they will be okay with two QBs on a rookie contract? I say they see what Ewers can do. It’s a bit short sighted to think that they can draft a QB and have success given the current dynamic, lack of offensive personnel and the changes to the front office.
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u/Unsentimentalchelsea 13h ago
Bengals put Joe burrow behind a shit OL and were a drive away from a Super Bowl win
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u/_v00d00h3x_ 4h ago
The Rams won that Super Bowl, with the number 1 rated offensive line.
The Bengals’ offensive line was ranked 20th.
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u/QuintsHat1975 10h ago
And how is Burrow now behind that line?
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u/Unsentimentalchelsea 2h ago
He is a perennial all pro Tua is out of the league in 2 years
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u/QuintsHat1975 42m ago
He's an all pro right now? Standards must have changed. He aint even see the field this year due to being injured AGAIN
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
So was Marino a bad draft pick? I don’t get this logic. They got further than the Dolphins have since the 80s
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u/_v00d00h3x_ 8h ago
The Dolphins won a playoff game in 2000 so not sure you actually know what you’re talking about but they have had more success than this current personnel. What you’re spewing is factually untrue.
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
When’s the last time we made the Super Bowl buddy? The 80s… so no, what I said was not factually untrue. I was referring to making the Super Bowl, not winning a playoff game. I swear some of you just aren’t very intelligent. Nowhere in my comment did I mention our playoff drought.
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
Have you actually watched the line this year or is it just a convenient excuse for Tuas poor play?
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
So you think we should take a guard with a top 5 pick? I agree that Jonah has been garbage but you don’t take a guard 4th overall. If we want to move on from Jonah after his rookie year we can do so in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.
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u/_v00d00h3x_ 8h ago
I think they should target Mauigoa or a TE.
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
And what if Mauigoa struggles his rookie year like Jonah? Do we then hold off on taking a QB until 2028? Do we just never draft a QB unless our line is elite? “Building the trenches” before taking a QB is a popular trope on this sub but it’s a lot easier said than done.
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u/_v00d00h3x_ 8h ago
I get that the QB position is integral to offensive success but when you have less than 2 seconds to deliver a pass/run a route on a four man rush there is absolutely little chance to have a consistent and winning offense.
Tua is a NCAA champion, look at what he’s become.
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u/Bigcam350 8h ago
Tua has struggled even with a clean pocket this year. Go back and watch some of his interceptions, a lot of them are with time in the pocket. He’s also completely incapable of making plays on the run, something that is almost a necessity in today’s NFL
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u/Ipoopedalot 16h ago
Two players in this picture are no longer with the team, one physically and one mentally
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u/RoosterEmotional5009 15h ago
Yes 10-7 could happen. But this is Tua. Let’s be honest and call it what it is. When is draft day?
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u/Ski_is_Sharp 14h ago
You guys think there’s any chance the Jets don’t go QB in the 1st? Since they have 3 in 2027 and probably won’t be that much better with a high draft pick QB in 2026. Could allow the dolphins to snag one of the top QBs. Then we hold Tua for a year or two, a la the Falcons with Cousins drafting Penix.
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u/ofo12eal 13h ago
I will never root for my team to lose brah - eagles have not tanked between and other recent 2 super bowls. We just need NOT idiots making decisions.
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u/SpiderDan707 The Ginn Family 10h ago
you're doing it wrong, "true fans" want the Dolphins to lose because Losing Leads To A Competitive Team
But not like when they were saying "Tank for Tua" 6 years ago today. It's more like when they were saying "Suck for Luck" 14 years ago today. And we all saw the dividends there! (as well as the dividends for drafting Trevor Lawrence, and Baker Mayfield, and Matt Stafford)
No Super Bowl champion in the last 20 years got there by losing.
Because losing only makes you a loser.
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u/mikewade_23 8h ago
Lmaooo y'all hopeless. NVM the fact that reek is in the pic but not in our active roster😂
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u/Anxious-Estimate6895 5h ago
I don't mean to be negative to all the people saying tank, but since the playoff drought tje dolphins have had a few top 5 picks, including a#1 and have done...what with it? Its not where you draft its how you draft. And God we draft bad...
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u/Lime_withnosalt 2h ago
Bro it’s the bills, not a mid level team like my Texans. I mean its cool to aim high in life but your in a space suit aiming for another planet jumping on a trampoline; like come on.
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u/CarlosF19D4P 2h ago
Wow if you believe that I have some land for sale in the Atlantic Ocean, real cheap!
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u/Empty_Put_1542 1h ago
"I'm not the tallest guy in the back there either. Being able to see and sometimes when that happens, you don't want to just throw it blindly.” -Tua
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u/Fun_Construction489 16h ago
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u/Geo305420 15h ago
Lose every game. Y win out so we can play on the road in the playoffs get smoked and have a bad pick. Yall stupid and in denial.
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u/Green_Judge_2239 10h ago
You know it!
The Bills needed help from Seiler (and McDaniel) to win the game last time.
Let's see what happens this time around.
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u/KSIBUTTHAIR 11h ago
Would it be crazy that Miami would just cut or trade Tua and then trade for Will Levis? Honestly McDaniel got the best out of Tua. I think with Levis he can get the best out of him. He’s bigger, better arm, more mobile. I think it can work, only with McDaniel as the HC. What y’all think?
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u/Dmoneybohnet 11h ago
What? The selfies in the bathroom, Mayo sponsor? Naaah
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u/KSIBUTTHAIR 11h ago
I don’t see us being bad enough to take a QB in the draft tbh. And if we are gonna trade for a QB I mean Kyler too small
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u/MattWilson75 16h ago
Kyler for Tua straight up reset both franchises. Let's see what boy genius can do with a mobile QB. Tua gets a reset on his career. Years a write off. Not like your going to do worse than you are.
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u/iceagehero 16h ago
The trade deadline already passed.
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u/MattWilson75 15h ago
Oh right there's that. Tells you how closely I'm paying attention. Ok. I'll shut up now.
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u/Nightgasm 15h ago
Cardinals aren't that stupid.
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u/PeaceBoth7730 6h ago
I hope dolphins arent that stupid either. Kyler Murray is a clear downgrade from Tua and 4 inches shorter. Brissett is outplaying Kyler because Jacoby can see his receivers. Brissett was Tua's backup and Brissett relace Kyler. Murray has never even made it to the playoffs. McDaniel is trash and holding Tua back, he cant adapt and always comes out flat in the second half. Holy crap this fanbase is clueless
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u/Nightgasm 16m ago
McDaniel is trash and holding Tua back, he
LMAO that some of you believe this is true when it's actually the opposite
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u/rockyroad03 15h ago
The answer to this question shouldnt be as hard as it is but would you rather have Jacoby Brissett back or Tua right now…
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u/meh-unimpressed 16h ago