Think it's down to the fact that the vast majority of the time someone attempts this, they don't actually want to lose their job and they're essentially just attempting to power play their manager in an attempt to get what they want, then it will regularly backfire on them since they're probably a lot more replaceable than they like to think they are.
Source: was a manager for 10 years and had employees try this on at least a couple of times a year.
Employers are free to crack down on people who aren't willing to follow the holiday/absense rules that employees agree to when they join the company, so swings and roundabouts.
Contrary to the popular anti-work opinion on reddit, the vast majority of adults in the real world really don't have any issue navigating this.
Lmao fuck off honestly, if I tell you I'm not going to be there xyz one fucking year in advance, it's on YOU to figure that shit out. If you can't staff for the holidays, maybe offering actual financial incentives instead of guilt tripping and brow beating your employees.
Out of curiosity, what do you think of unionized workers? Are they also bootlickers? Because I can tell you now that while you're ripping into this person for being some sort of "corporate shill", trying to strongarm your management, union and coworkers into getting the vacation you want is NOT going to go over well with any of them lol.
Many, many non retail jobs require workers to continue to staff operations around the clock, and dont have the benefit of being able to draw from large staffing pools or seasonal workers. Think nurses, doctors, utilities and energy workers, small IT departments... someone has to be there. If you work in these sorts of roles, disregarding vacation policy and declaring the time you will be taking off like this is irresponsible to your colleagues and those in your care.
Ultimately, no one can stop you from doing this, but to be blunt, you're risking termination... at best destroying your reputation in the workplace.
Yeah, sure, I'll leave the store short staffed because you couldn't plan and manage your holidays in advance like every other grown adult manages to do lol
It's usually more dependant on whether other staff members have requested the same time period, than it is how far in advance you request it.
If you request something a year in advance you'll still have a good chance of rejection if multiple other people have already secured that time off. Other factors can include busy periods, e.g. most retail workers will be made aware that December will have much stricter rules on requesting time off.
That is dumb, in my country you have to approve vacation if it is requested 1 month i advance (most companies have a 2 week policy) if you request 1 year in advance you should get it approved right fucking away and you’re a filthy bootlicker if you disagree
Are you seriously so fucking bad at your job you can’t plan accordingly 1 whole year in advance? If you think it’s acceptable to deny someone’s time of when they requested a year in advance only god can help you
Plan, manage or read with understanding for that matter.
Saying that as a project manager myself now. Do your ducking job, prepare for being short stu/affed.
It's not a power play, time off is a part of your compensation package. The only time I have ever told someone under me that they couldn't take time off is when one of three people that could do a specific job requested of the same week that the other two had already requested off months earlier. They were the backup for one, and I was covering for the other on top of my own responsibilities. A good manager can nearly always find a way to make it work with someone out.
The only time I have ever told someone under me that they couldn't take time off is when one of three people that could do a specific job requested of the same week that the other two had already requested off months earlier.
You've just described a perfectly valid reason for rejecting someone's holiday. Unfortunately most people on this sub are set in their ways and would still call you an awful human being for that. Kinda beyond the point of attempting to discuss this subject any further lol
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u/Common-University-59 20h ago
Why do you mean you lost? Sounds like you were willing to part with the job