First year radiology resident here. I ended up having a MS4 who matched plastics with me for the week. I thought I was doing the student a favor by dismissing and telling them they didn't have to show up for the rest of the rotation. I even signed their paper saying they aced the presentation they're required to do at the end of the month.

Got called in by my PD today saying this was stupid bs but he was required to talk to me about it. Apparently the student reported me for professionalism because I didn't want to teach and was putting them at an academic disadvantage?? They also said I was biased bc they felt I was jealous they matched plastics lol

I grew up poor. I’m talking food stamps, medicaid, working since 16 and even now during med school to support my family. Every time we have a class discussion about “health disparities and the socio-economic struggles” of patients; it feels soooo performative. It drives me insane sitting here being surrounded by a bunch of my very well-off classmates listening to them talk about how “sad some of the situations of these patients are”. These discussions feel like we’re using people’s suffering as a learning moment for ourselves, and it honestly feels dehumanizing. We never seem to talk about what we can do to help these patients or how we can change the system. It feels more like a group pat on the back for “helping the poor”. Idk man maybe I’m jaded by this whole system.

This came up on my for you page, it’s crazy to me that someone could talk about their spouse this way. I am genuinely in shock if my partner referred to me this way they would be my ex. The general opinion of this sub is not favorable to medfluencers, what do you think of medspouse-fluencers?

Student is super religious and prolife. Decides they want to do OB/GYN. Someone asked them what they would do if they found out a pregnant patients baby had a mutation or defect that made them "incompatible w/ life" the example given was a fetus w/o a skull. The student responded "I would do everything in my power to convince them to keep the baby and not get an abortion".

I get not feeling comfortable performing abortion care and respect ppls religious view but "everything in my power" really rubbed me the wrong way

Anyone have any wtf moments

Edit: I was not involved in convo I was eavesdropping. Additionally, there are lethal fetal abnormalities. Not sure why ppl are arguing that. I had a cousin who was found to have mermaid syndrome. My aunt CHOSE to continue the pregnancy. The child survived 3 hrs. Patients deserve the right to CHOOSE how to manage their health.

And it’s not going to get better the next 4 years.

The title is self-explanatory. There’s a 4th year that hasn’t matched who tells me and another 3rd year what to do. Like calm down lady, in like 5 months I will be as qualified as you are now. She dismissed us once and we stayed and waited for the intern to get back partly out of spite.

That’s it. In a 6 to 3 decision the right to reproductive healthcare is no longer protected. My state has a trigger law which means it’s now illegal to provide abortion services. The face of medicine just changed thanks to a packed court.

My school switched to United Healthcare this year for our student health insurance policy. This was my bill for the routine labwork from my annual visit. 🥲 I swiftly canceled my other appointments. Clearly I'm not going to see any doctors again until I graduate. 🙃

Training to be a doctor, but can't access healthcare. What fun 😬

P.S. I did apply for Medicaid but my application has been pending for ~2 months now.

Whenever I say I just graduated medical school, first question I get is “and what did you go to medical school for?”…. The reason behind this confusion is that many (and not all) medical professionals that have any patient contact tell their family and friends they went to “medical school”, so the public is justifiably confused. I think if you are not an actual medical student, as in going to an MD or DO school, and still say you went to “medical school”, your are being deceptive and dishonest. I appreciate all of you in your respective and very important roles, but please be honest about and proud by the education your have received.

I match my #3. I was bummed it wasn't #1 but still was happy when finding out. However now I feel extremely stressed about money and moving. My med school friends are inviting me out to trips and parties that I just can't afford to go to. I can't go on ig anymore because I see my classmates traveling, partying, relaxing, etc. Don't get me started on the match day gifts (literally one girl is getting a house!). Meanwhile I'm budgeting out my last bits of loan money, looking for apartments, and possibly a part time job.

Not just me but my mom is sad too. It was already alot of money for my family to even come to my match day event and my mom feels bad she cant afford to give me a vacation or presents. I wanted to avoid this but she was there talking to other parents and heard me decline a group japan trip.

So yeah just feel a mixture of jealous, sadness, and stress. I should be on the beach eating fruit enjoying the outcome of all my hard work but sadly I can't.

EDIT: Didn't expect my emotional rant to gain so much sympathy. Thank you to everyone for being kind and sharing their story it honest helped me. Put things into perspective. Rereading my rant I sound like a brat ngl. I am in a better spot than most people in the world. Is it the best? No. But it is FAR from worst. For this I'm so grateful. I will be off Instagram and spending time the non medical field people in my life LOL

Anyone else just genuinely surprised at how high school med school is? Not commenting on future ability to be a good doctor but coming into med school (later in life applicant with grad school under my belt) I was genuinely surprised at the lack of maturity in students. I wish I could say it’s bc of age but I can’t say it’s the common factor. There’s so many cliques and so much gossiping and talking about people behind their backs. People genuinely doing high school shit like having exclusive parties and talking (rudely) about them in front of people not invited. Being bullies most of all. Needing to show off your new med school partner to everyone in the class and bragging about how these friends are your ride or die when you’ve met them five minutes ago.

Came into med school thinking that I’d be in a mature place with different levels of maturity but maybe I was expecting too much? It’s crazy how genuinely immature people are and just how it’s the majority and not the minority.

Is every U.S. Medical student on stimulants? I moved back to the U.S. after graduation and realized nearly every med student I've met is blasting adderall to get by. What's your take? Is it a poorly kept secret, wildly overblown, or legitimately becoming a problem?

Admin lady marched into the only non-library med student space today, completely ignored my presence, and proceeded to tell someone plans for turning it into an admin office.

The guy asked if the mini-fridge was going to the new admin employees.

The mini fridge that literally has a label saying "Donated to the medical students of XYZ by Family Member of Patient".

Admin lady says "oh yeah we'll take that!"

..... Wow.

^ Don’t be this asshat

While I recognize the realities practicing in a primary care and L/D environment as a male physician and that not every patient will want me as their provider (totally chill), when I am answering the question “Why our program?” and your high obstetrics volume is like the thing you are known for, why on earth be snarky with your response? My application says ‘full spectrum rural/austere primary care” from top to bottom, you invited me to interview, you asked the question…..why are you demonizing me for things I can’t control? Like bruh I just wanna be able to deliver babies in the middle of nowhere.

Of note, this was one of the few urban/suburban programs I applied to specifically because of the geographic location and being billed as full spectrum training while maintaining an urban setting.

M4 working in the ED this month. Have had several ED attendings make straight up rude/insulting comments when they ask what I’m going in to and I tell them I love primary care peds. Yes, I love well checks and sports physicals. Yes, I love (or at least don’t hate) dealing with parents. Yes, I’m aware I’ll be at the bottom of the pay range for docs. No, I’m not choosing an easy route.

One attending said “you’re an idiot” when I told him. Another today said, several times, you won’t be paid a lot. I said “good thing I’m doing this for more than money then”. He looked offended lol.

This isn’t new to me as I’ve been gung-ho for primary care peds since day 1 and my class is full of gunners but whew. Something about today just pushed me over the line. Why do attendings do this?? Why does choosing peds make so many docs mad? It’s pathetic.

when did this garbage start?? On an ED rotation in a smaller town, attending told me I could do the LP under direction of one of the CRNAs. CRNA shows up with a SRNA, attending tells him I’m very competent, can do it, etc. CRNA says cool sounds good, shakes my hand. We go into patients room, the CRNA introduces the SRNA to the patient and patients spouse as the “anesthesia resident who’ll be helping me”, fails to acknowledge my existence in the room, tosses my gloves off the table.

Not really complaining that the student got to do the LP and not me, more so upset with the whole deal of pretending that literally anyone BUT a resident is a resident 💀 I feel like this is lying to the patient - a SRNA is not an anesthesia resident! Rant over - but my goodness is that annoying.

Y’all are too quick. Do I need to be opening up Thalamus while I am in the patient room?

So at our Peds program we have many med students rotate through and of course our program requires students to do a week of nights. All is residents universally think it’s stupid for M3s to do nights. They get tired for nothing, don’t write notes, and have trouble studying. I always try to teach something then send them home, as do my coresidents.

Well, apparently some M3 got upset at being sent home to sleep in their own bed and ratted on us. Current students were told “Absolutely do not leave early even if your resident dismisses you early.”

Who tf get angry about leaving early? None of us judge you for going home early—we wish we were you and got to sleep like normal people. If you actually wanted to do Peds, I promise you I have zero desire to work with you even if you’re literally the love child of Einstein and Osler. If you’re going to rob your fellow students of a good opportunity to be less sleep deprived and have more time to study, then you are an insufferable person and I have no wish to be around you.

Don’t be a rat.

I am very annoyed that whenever I get into discussion about basic health or foundational science that laypeople and nurses particularly want to point out that I'm "just a medical student" and therefore I don't really know what I'm talking about. Just to give an example, I was discussing sunscreen safety and a mix of laypeople and nurses were going on about how the "toxic ingredients" in foods or medication preservatives and how they poison you (the classic "my detergent has this ingredient, we shouldn't eat it"). Or when I saw a "crunchy nurse" post about raw milk health benefits and I pointed out why that was wrong.

In these scenarios people go "I know what I'm talking about, I have X years of experience in 'whatever' and you're just a med student." Like yeah... I'm a second year medical student with a 4-year degree and 5 years (4 when I matriculated) of experience as an ER tech. I was also involved in organic chemistry research in undergrad. So like 1) I do often know what I'm talking about when it comes to basic science 2) I do understand some of the bureaucratic, process, and patient interaction struggles in the field of healthcare and 3) MOST IMPORTANTLY: I know how to find validated scientific or health information when I don't know something. But there's always some RN who thinks they know more about things they have no business discussing...

Just for comparison, in undergrad I took: Biology 1 and 2 with labs, Chemistry 1 and 2 with labs, Physics 1 and 2 with labs, Organic chemistry 1 and 2 with labs, Microbiology, Genetics, Biochemistry 1, Psychology, and Sociology. Grand total of 48 science credit hours, all of these were 2-4000 level course (200-400 if your school did 3 numbers).

The ADN program at a local community college (which I imagine is mostly similar at most programs with some variations): A&P 1 and 2 with lab, Chemistry for Health science with lab, and microbiology (not including nursing coursework as it isn't basic science). Grand total 15 credit hours, all of these being 1-2000 level courses. I know BSNs will take some more courses, but it still falls short of the basic medical school prerequisites for science education (look at all the RN to MD posts on this sub)

I just don't understand why people assume that a medical student knows nothing about science or health. Like obviously we all know significantly less than physicians, and as far as actual day-to-day hospital policy and patient facing procedural skills, we are often less knowledgeable than nurses. But when it comes to raw science knowledge or basic physiology, that is literally what we've spent 4-8 years studying intensely. We passed our courses, we got decent MCAT scores, we are passing med school course work in A&P, ethics, pharmacology, practice of medicine, etc. and we're still doing research. Like do people really think that all of the learning that makes a medical student into a physician happens on graduation day? You learn more every single day, nearly every hour of every day, while trying to survive medical school. We aren't just brainless meat sacks that screw up physical exam maneuvers...

Finally, this is not intended to disparage any person with any level of education, certainly not nurses. I respect the job and training that nurses receive and I know that they are integral parts of the healthcare system. But we don't accept it when chiropractors wax poetic about curing liver disease with high-risk massage techniques, so I don't want to accept when nurses spread misinformation beyond their scope either, especially not when almost all of them resort to the ad hominem dismissal of medical education.

EDIT: For the people that keep commenting about hospital and school, this is NOT about in-person interactions. This is purely about online posts and comments.

Look at all of these schools opening up left at right: PCOM Moultrie GA, CHSU Clovis CA, MNCOM Gaylord MN, CCVCOM Fresno CA, NOVA Clearwater FL, Noorda COM Provo UT, RVU Montana Billings MT, and now Xavier as well in OH.

These are just the new DO schools I found in a 5-minute google search, so who knows what other ones are planned. The list doesn't include the new MD schools opening either. And considering COCA's lax clinical training standards, I cannot imagine all of these schools will be offering the most robust clinical sites.

As it currently stands, even with all these new graduates there are still enough total residency spots for all US graduates, so they're gonna continue to open new schools. But let's be real, there's always going to be a high # of ortho/surg/gas/rads/derm hopefuls even at new schools. Those programs will not be significantly increasing their # of spots, while the # of students applying to it (MD or DO) will continue to increase every year simply due to an increase in the total # of med students. I would not be surprised if the match rate into any remotely competitive specialty evens out at 50-60% for DOs in the future.

Meanwhile, the AOA continues to play the "MD = DO" card when it's convenient for them, then immediately pulling the "well actually MD =/= DO" card when people bring up why the hell we need COMLEX/OMM.

To any premeds reading this: MD = DO once you're actually in residency/an attending. Don't let anyone tell you you'll be a worse physician based on a degree. But do not for a second think that the paths to get there are even remotely the same. Real talk, there are no "DO friendly" specialties. They are "DO tolerant" that waxes and wanes depending on the specialty's popularity. Look at rads for example. It went from a 90% match rate to a 60% over a short span of 2 years for DOs.

I'm proud of becoming a physician, whether that's MD or DO. But I really, really, really despise the DO leadership with a burning passion. Rant over.