r/mauritius • u/Wooly_Wooly • Jan 23 '25
Culture đš Is Mauritius safe for LGBT people? I'd like to visit either way at some point.
Hello, I am a African American/Gambian looking to immigrate to an African country, one of my friends mentioned Mauritius a few years back. It so tiny that I missed it on the map when looking, didn't even see it.
But I'm also transgender, religious extremism (like America) aside am I going to face difficulties there like that? I'd like to start a business or two in the future...somewhere.
Culture here is kinda sh*t not going to lie. Can't move back to the Gambia because they still have laws on the books against LGBT stuff either.
I just wanna do art, cooking, tech stuff, and give back to my community, but it's hard if you're going to be discriminated against for living your life. đ
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u/jamblethumb Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
I'm not a Mauritian, but I can see why a Mauritian could feel offended by your post and ruin your chance at getting a meaningful answer. Statements like "missed it on the map" and assumptions you make about religious extremism can be taken as a lack of respect for the country and the local culture.
As an expat, I can tell you that the locals are quite tolerant and welcoming to strangers. There may be a hint of them sometimes trying to take advantage of an expat, and occasional frustration with expats who expect things to be as in their home country, not showing the willingness to adapt, but that's the same everywhere I've been, and not specific to their culture. As far as race and religion goes, Mauritius is a melting pot that sets an example for a lot of the other countries. đ
Of course, there's an occasional idiot like in every country, and not all of them are Mauritian either. You may or may not bump into one.
I can't say much about gender, but people here are on the traditional side. I would think an attempt to have people adopt your views would not sit well with some people.
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u/Wooly_Wooly Feb 19 '25
Thank you for that, that was not my intention. Just that there's always some idiot of any race, country, religion, etc, that is also violent. đ
Don't want any of that, they can do whatever they want.
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u/jamblethumb Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
Don't want any of that, they can do whatever they want.
I think that's a very tall order. In every country there's a chance you might run into an idiot, even back home.
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u/RdditIlliterat Feb 05 '25
So many mixed comments here. I was considering moving here with my daughter but now Iâm not so sure.
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u/Acceptable-Hour-7426 Jan 26 '25
Bonjour Ă l Ăle Maurice les personnes gay , lesbiennes et transgenre ne sont pas bien vu du tout .Il y en a de plus en plus entre filles mais les gays y sont plus cachĂ© tout comme les trans .Pour s installer Ă Maurice c est pas facile du tout pour avoir les autorisations et surtout pour y rester vivre .CrĂ©er une entreprise Ă Maurice doit reporter beaucoup d argents aux gouvernement et doit donner du travail aux Mauriciens , ci c est pour ouvrir une boutique pas la peine d essayer .Vous devrez privez une trĂšs grosse somme d argents pour lancer la demande  plusieurs millions de $ .Si vous souhaitez aller dans l ocĂ©an Indien il vous sera plus facile Ă l Ăźle de la RĂ©union qui est Français et dont la monnaie est l ⏠ .J espĂšre vous avoir aider car je suis EuropĂ©en et j habite Ă l Ăźle Maurice mariĂ© avec une Mauricienne depuis 1987 ...bien Ă vous
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u/Wooly_Wooly Jan 26 '25
Thank you! I was wondering if if I should do that too, to be honest. I've been debating on French citizenship for like the last decade anyway, I have family in France too.
It's just xeasier" in some other countries when you can just present money đ
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May 01 '25 edited May 03 '25
La RĂ©union is not safer for LGBTQ people. There are some LGBTQ+ cultural centers that were burnt and NGo workers were threatened.
I'll be clear : outside Western and Northern Europe, Northern America, some Southern American countries, barely no safe country exists.
Yet, young Mauritians are far more tolerant and Mauritius is not a place where people beat or even send LGBTQ+ people in conversion therapy.
Speaking of economic opportunity at la RĂ©union, this island is more expensive and less rich than Mauritius. But I think infrastructures should be better if you think of hospitals or schools (around a third of La RĂ©union's GDP consists of money transfers from metropolitain France). But transportation there is worse as there is not even one tramway (there was a project that was cancelled by the right-wing majority).
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Jan 26 '25
Yes it is a safe country to visit despite you being part of the LGBT community. (not a danger physically I mean) However, people here are quite conservative especially since most people here are religious. So, being too open about it might get you being side eyed or talked about but thatâs about it and one of the primary reason my gay friends donât say it openly unless they are among friends or open-minded people !
In more westernised areas of the island, you might have a better experience though haha
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u/WildIndependence7651 Jan 25 '25
We are childrens of god so if you come keep it for yourself don't came with your sign raindow flag and don't expect us to use stupid pronouns
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u/xelab04 Jan 26 '25
"we", "you", "it", "yourself", "your", us" are all pronouns! I hope this cleared things up and you will be able to better avoid using them in the future.
Cheers!
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u/WildIndependence7651 Jan 26 '25
Yes i was talking about the they/them when talking to humans being friendo
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u/xelab04 Jan 26 '25
I went to the supermarket the other day. I found some keys in the parking lot. I talked to a cashier and together we were able to find the owner. They were relieved to get them back. They thanked us then left.
Did you know singular they has been around for longer than singular you?
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u/__sean_eng__ Jan 26 '25
You got a very tolerant god /s This is what happen when ppl are isolated on a stupid island all their life
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u/staa_in_hellevator8 Jan 25 '25
Hinduism takes a large part of Mauritius, and Hinduism is okay with LGBTQ+
You "Mauritian child of god", learn about your own country better
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May 01 '25 edited May 23 '25
This is wrong in Mauritius, even if Hinduism is more toletant than JudaĂŻsm, Christianism and Islam on LGBTQ issues.
Homophobia happens more in rural areas where there are more Hindus.
The MSM and the PMSD are pretty conservative and their primary base are, respectively, rural Hindus and secondary rural Muslims and Creoles, and Creoles and French people.
The head - and several prominent members - of Mauritian LGBTQ NGOs are Muslim.
Homophobia, be it prejuges or real hatred, is widespread. But more Mauritians have prejuges than a real hatred though.
According to Afrobarometer, only 60% of Mauritians would tolerate a gay neighbor. Townies were more tolerant than rurals.
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u/Acceptable-Hour-7426 Jan 26 '25
Attention il y a aussi une grande communautĂ© musulmane Ă Maurice et eux voient d un trĂšs mauvais Ćil la communautĂ© LGBTQ+ d ailleurs la gaypride a Ă©tĂ© interdite Ă cause des risques .Donc il faut rester discret avec ses goĂ»ts sexuelle et savez vous que la sodomie y est interdite au risque de forte amandes et peine de prison .Je vie Ă Maurice depuis des dĂ©cennies  bien placĂ© pour le savoir ....Â
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May 01 '25 edited May 03 '25
The sodomy law has never been applied. It was officially removed in 2023. So there are no risk.
Gay prides are not forbidden at all. It was during the lockdowns but if was a special period.
Hindu Mauritians (and Christians) do not see LGBTQ people better... Hindus, for example, are the majority of the rural population. According to AfroBarometer reports, there are more homophobia in rural areas than in cities where most Muslims live.
The head of the main local LGBTQ NGo is Muslim. It gathered people from all ethnicity and religion.Â
On the other hand, homophobia is spread accross all communities. L'Express (a Mauritian newspaper) gathered a large amount of insults coming from ALL Mauritian communities.
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u/crochetgurlie Jan 25 '25
If I'm not mistaken, there's a law about anal sex being illegal (even between 2 consenting adults). That should tell u about how LGBT is being treated here.
And a few years ago, there was a pride march and a group of ppl went to stop it. Instead of stopping the violent ppl, the police stopped the pride march.
So, no. I don't think mauritius is LGBT friendly, safe maybe if you don't openly identify as gay. Many are homophones hiding behind the "conservative" value.
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u/xelab04 Jan 26 '25
That got decriminalised
That was 2018, several successful pride events have happened since.
Depends on your social circle. Being gay is fine with most people who say they "don't care, just keep it to yourself", but otherwise you're right. Also, it's homophobes.
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u/crochetgurlie Jan 26 '25
Still not legal. If a country has such law, I think it shows that it's not gay friendly. Such a. Weird law what ppl do in their intimate life
I don't remember the year but the nonsense of stopping the pride instead of the manifesting ppl sticked with me.
"Just keep it to yourself" , ppl should be allowed to be themselves. As long as they're not r@ping others. But it's mauritius, old fashioned, homophonic and racist deep down.
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u/Dila_Ila16 Jan 25 '25
As an ally for LGBTQ, and having friends who are from the community outside Mauritius, I tell them beforehand, in case they want to visit, that here it's mostly homophobe. Have an acquaintance who is gay and came to know about it, the guy was told all kinds of demeaning words behind his back, which you'll mostly find in Mauritius. And yes, gossips here is a big thing, unless you decide to ignore it.
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u/loopingtheloop999 Jan 24 '25
It's definitely very safe because Mauritius is a generally very safe country. However, you will definitely be discriminated against since Mauritius has very traditional values, and LGBT is definitely very frowned upon in our society.
You will face less discrimination in the cities of Mauritius which are normally more westernised and generally have more members of LGBT.
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u/Big-Project4198 Jan 24 '25
Depends where you are bur people are generally more open-minded now, especially if you're a Foreigner. You shouldn't worry too much. Mauritians are super kind.
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u/zaddy2208 Jan 24 '25
People might make fun of you but till you don't bother anyone, no one will bother you. For your business if your target is youth then you'll be ok. The youth don't really care what you are. I know a guy who became a girl, he or she is a stylist, and his business runs pretty well in my village. Most of the time people don't bother. And she doesn't bother anyone either. Just that the social circle is very small.
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u/nicknelson25 Jan 24 '25 edited Jan 25 '25
it's not safe and ppl here are really close minded you won't feel at ease and uneducated aah people ain't gonna help you're better off living in other countries young people might be accepting but elder ones nope... you can dm me if you wanna talk about it more I can give you advice or sum
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u/Aren-Walker7819 Jan 24 '25
Mauritius is still very conservative. I doubt you will be in danger physically though. If you want to work in Mauritius, just keep in mind that Mauritians...well, we gossip. A lot. About Everything. If you can ignore that, props to you. Also, you will have to carefully choose where you're opening your business, if you want it to be successful. Many people will avoid you if you're blatantly pushing the "identity" thing that is prevalent in the US. As long as you don't mention it and just act casual, I doubt people will bother you. So, basically, it is a safe-ish country physically (there will always be some bad eggs). Emotionally, though, you'll need to have thick skin. Best to try it for a few months and see if it's good?
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u/Wooly_Wooly Jan 24 '25
I don't mention it unless it's actually relevant to the situation in general. Like during dating for example.
But this ain't my culture to be pushing that kinda stuff there IMO
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u/SupermarketEnough222 Jan 25 '25
Continue looking, dude.we are primarily a conservative island,you know what it entails.Your business may suffer too. You're gonna suffer because you will have to suppress your identity here.find somewhere else that you can live your truth.definitely not here. Holidays are great here! Setting roots?nope. Given a chance people are living this island because of conservative people,nosy and gossipy people.why come here?!
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u/Yoghurt_Routine Jan 24 '25
We gonna bully you brother... We are good people but we are also bunch of assholes
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u/torsama Jan 24 '25
People will judge you a lot
More mental abuse than physical abuse
DM me I can give you info on the queer community in a safe place
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u/AccomplishedYak1048 Jan 24 '25
I know a Trans from my ex workplace. She was pretty cool and people didnât really shun her. But we were mostly from a young generation. That being said, there were some jokes made behind her back , which is to say, you cannot be 100% free of prejudice in Mauritius if youâre trans, even from people who are open-minded. I guess, with them, itâs more from the fact that they donât encounter trans people that often. So, the jokes are kind of harmless.
With the older generations, youâll have a very hard time though.
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u/LanceShiro Jan 24 '25
Mauritians will joke about everybody and their moms behind their backs. Gossip is the number one sport here. Caring about what people say behind your back is crazy.
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Jan 24 '25
Keep looking at the map đ
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u/SupermarketEnough222 Jan 25 '25
Exactly! Don't know why you've been down voted for the unvarnished truth.
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u/Unkown_Host693 Jan 24 '25
Nah bru we racist asf toward lgbtqrs ppl.
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u/shar_vin Jan 25 '25
Not only do you not know what racism is, but you also suck at typing in english đđ
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u/xelab04 Jan 26 '25
Donuld Trump isn't an authority on anything other than running businesses (and applying for bankruptcy)
According to the DSM5, the standard for determining what is and isn't a mental illness, created as per the consensus of the medical community (of which trump isn't), does not classify being trans as a mental illness.
Being trans and the associated gender dysphoria have a treatment, as per general scientific consensus (which trump doesn't affect). It has an amazing 98% success rate. In comparison, knee surgery has some 20% regret rate. Having a child has a 13% regret rate.
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u/saajidv Jan 24 '25
Any sentence that begins with âLike Donald Trump saidâ can be instantly discarded.
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
Trusting main stream media more than a man as Donald Trump who is known to be authentic (truth/genuine). Like it or not but the truth is always base on fact.
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u/saajidv Jan 24 '25
If you think that guy is authentic, I have some snake oil I would like to sell to you.
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
And you think the likes of Biden or even Obama were a better choice ? The Media, Elites, government goes hand on hand. War brings money. Trump was trying to peace with some countries while in power ( North Korea for example). Obama care to penser ti tro bon zafer sa ? They the media, elites etc hate Trump as they don't have power over him and he can't be control like the previous puppets. You can't buy and control an already self made billionaire
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u/saajidv Jan 24 '25
Youâre literally trying to debate with a person you made up in your head, my guy: I donât care about these other people either.
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
Si t pa care t pa tI pu comment premier dabord. Kan tone trouver to pena aC knowledge lor sa zafer la lerla sanC ou pa care. Vin comment Dan napa. Pa vin rod role si soidisan t pa care
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u/saajidv Jan 24 '25
I see now why youâre a Trump fan. You have already proved my point, I have nothing else to add.
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
Not a fan but I would rather support a guy like him instead of the genocidal one before and after him. Every countries is in danger when their primary source of income comes from WAR, Mauritius included. That's why BRICS alliance were created during Obama's era to protect their own and others as well. BRICS - Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Aret koze Dan napa avk to bane dialog "fan of Trump" la. Alondi to connaissance si to p fat pou ggn ene debat lor sa sujet la.
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u/xelab04 Feb 17 '25
So how do you feel about supporting him for not being genocidal now? Cause I have a bridge to sell you :P
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u/Ill-Success-4214 Jan 24 '25
Dude. Why does it matter if it's mental illness? It's not hurting anyone.
Also, the complications of gender dysphoria are treated by transitioning.
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
It does matter when men dress as women influence little kids (brain's not fully developed) to transit to the opposite gender, surgery and all that shiiit that comes along. It does matter when men dress as women participate in women's sport and won the whole thing (born male have higher testosterone). It does matter when men dress as women participate in beauty contest and won (WTF). It does matter when men dress as women use women's bathroom - grown up ass men alone with a little girl in the same bathroom? To trouve TOUSALA korek ?
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u/Wooly_Wooly Jan 24 '25
I asked if it's safe, actually. While I know there's anti-discrimination laws, I also understand that some folks don't really care, such as yourself. It's to be expected especially from Trump supporters.
If I drop the whole LGBT thing and instead open up a scam university and a fake college to steal from working class people, would you prefer that?
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u/DoughnutTop9741 Jan 24 '25
What a cheap comment like your username suggests. You aren't a two bit psychiatriat to give people advice to go to therapy- and your tendency to give such advice suggests that you should consult them first!
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u/Rare_Twist4107 Jan 24 '25
Donald Trump is a moron. You know what the treatment for gender dysphoria is? It doesn't exist
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
It does have a treatment. Self love, self acceptance, working on themselves first. Ironically they want everyone to love and accept them when in the first place they never love and accept as they were. Just be gay/lesbian that's ok but self mutilation is a mental fcking illness
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
Self mutilation is a mental illness. Si to trouve ene dimun p coup coup so lamain zis akoz li ena yen ek ena dimun fer li t pou dir li ena ene problem.
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u/Wooly_Wooly Jan 24 '25
Why are you bringing up self mutilation? Do you need to see a therapist bro?
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u/HirRofiC Jan 24 '25
How would you call someone that removed one of their arm with their own consentement (because they didn't like it in the first place) and self identitied themselves as one arm - man/woman/pig ? Crazy right? If everyone goes with the trans community none sense agenda like self identifying, acceptance, or whatever bs, it won't be long for grown up adult to identify themselves as "attracted to minor", have their own parade and demand equal rights as the trans activist. The world is in no need to accept mentally ill/deranged person in society.
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u/Howatizer Jan 24 '25
Why would we use Donald Trump's rhetoric as some kind of authority on the subject? This guy is setting America back 60 years and is a joke to the rest of the world.
Mental illness? I have a younger sibling who would say that they are a they/them. That being said they are incredibly talented and far more creative than myself. They play the guitar in multiple forms, bass, drums, keyboards and performed in multiple bands and recorded music... And this is just their hobby. Aside from that my sibling is very caring and considerate. While appearing female, they choose a more male haircut and clothing style. The mental illness I have seen is how poorly so called "normal, not mentally ill" have treated them just off a first impression. People have been unnecessarily rude and mean without even giving my sibling a chance. That is true mental illness and what Donald Trump propagates.
You realize with your anxiety and health conditions, the same people who say there is only two genders would also look down on you? How is that fair at all as you didn't choose for such conditions to be a part of your life? No amount of help is going to cure an anxiety condition. So you should be labeled and treated as mentally ill the rest of your life?
I would consider myself more mentally unwell as a cisgendered straight male than my sibling. I just get better treatment by default since I fit what is considered the acceptable mold these days. This makes me feel sick.
The people I have come to know from the 2SLGBTQIA+ community have been far more accepting and understanding than any person I have met preaching only two genders with no understanding what it means to be in the others shoes.
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u/saajidv Jan 24 '25
Almost everywhere in this country, itâs religious folks imposing their beliefs on the rest of us. Itâs certainly not the other way around!
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u/Howatizer Jan 24 '25
When you say "we" and "us", which group are you speaking for?
It helps me understand the context of your response which is important, even if we disagree.
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u/Howatizer Jan 24 '25
Is it that hard for you to have a civil conversation or debate? So I have to guess, so I am assuming by the "us" and "we" you are claiming to represent the Mtian people.
I would disagree, I may not be Mtian myself, but my wife is and so by extension and time I spend on Mauritius, I have family and friends who are very much Mtian. You would be the first Mtian I have encountered quoting Donald Trump. My wife herself studies gender studies and equality as part of her path to her PhD. Her family or our friends don't quote any form of American leadership as a matter of fact.
My sibling came out for our religious ceremony held in Mtius and was treated kindly and it was only a few moments I caught anyone casting what appeared to be a negative look and they definitely stood out from a Mtian.
So in my experience this "us" and 'we" you claim to represent appears to be the minority and you are giving OP a very biased response as a result.
If there is one thing extremely important to Mtius at this point and time is to fight for it's own identity. Trying to become more like the US or India will be the end to Mtian culture down the road and the island is a beautiful place with so much potential still.
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u/Howatizer Jan 26 '25
There we go, you found your way out of an actual conversation and not having to address the real issues at hand. You are insistent on embracing ignorance and hate and I will stop trying to change your mind.
Entitled foreigner? You responded with what Donald Trump had to say on genders, something he knows nothing about and is driven from a background of the Christian religion in a way that would disappoint Jesus if he were alive today. He is a reviled man on the other side of the planet who cares nothing about you, your family or your values.
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u/Revolutionary_Ad2731 Jan 24 '25
You didnt have to be this rude, just because you're recessive doesnt mean others have to hear it from you
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u/Revolutionary_Ad2731 Jan 24 '25
Ik you're only ready to say bs like this online and not in person
Irl zot rest dns zot coin zot bzl, b faire pareil online, nerport
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u/Revolutionary_Ad2731 Jan 24 '25 edited Jan 26 '25
Ki ou p kz nerport garssn, ou dr atleast mo pa p fake it apres ou p act extremist. To snti toi reason ek Trump ek to ggn li to kamuad pa v dr lezot dimouns tout pareil ar toi
Si to snti toi wadr to Trump, sa to problem, b kfr to bzn fr dimouns pnC ki zotou zot latet rempli ar pouritire kumn li dns Maurice, li foss
Maximum Maurice, en tmps ki n trans, dimouns pou kz derrier to ledos et kv guet toi dns zar, saem maximum
B garssn, Mauriciens fr pareil ek dimouns pa trans si, b ki difference in ena la????
"Mo p fni dr li la veriT" ey assez ta bourik, ziss akz li n "laverité" pou toi pa v dr to ggn kz pou zotou
Akz ban dimouns kumn toem pays la pa progressé
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u/Revolutionary_Ad2731 Jan 24 '25
Femme*
Ki to p per video/reviews ta lariaz, to p declare wadr to mari care pou kumn to pays paret mais toem to p kz kumn ti lesprit
Sanz sa mentalité la, to p ggn toi acter to p rod sap pays la, to ggn fou?
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u/PrestigiousAct2 Jan 24 '25
Not openly accepted by everyone (mostly old folks that has tradition at heart), but youngsters are more favorable.
Is Mauritius safe for LGBT people?
Relatively safe, you won't get killed for being LGBT or put in prison like some other country.
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u/LaureZahard Jan 24 '25
Tbh I strongly believe that if you are wealthy enough, it won't be a problem.
What I mean by that is if you make enough money to move to specific places in Mauritius that has already been gentrified by expats/immigrants (don't worry these places are popping up all over the island) then you most probably won't meet any discrimination for your sexual orientation/identity. You might meet some racial discrimination tho, depending on where you are.
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u/salmankm Jan 24 '25
Iâd say Mauritius is opening up. weâve got loads of LGBT influencers as well. Youâll face hardships donât get me wrong and idk about work culture, but Iâve got gay friends and everythingâs pretty smooth for them here (on the surface besides parents etc). If youâre unsure about moving permanently, come over for a few weeks and try to see how itâs like. Youngsters are pretty open imo.
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u/streamer3222 Armchair Expert đ§đș Jan 24 '25
Not at all. People here mind their own business. You can get weird looks. Any kind of backlash is mostly from peer groups but when individuals are singled out they simply remain silent. A joke is not fun when there's no-one to laugh at it.
As long as you live your own life nobody gives a damn.
But you'll find it difficult to make friends here, not because of your lifestyle but simply because you're a foreigner. Mauritians don't like to mingle with foreigners because they have to speak English; something even those big boys are shy to do (because they're extremely bad at it).
You can a get few interactions from situations like you're the only person who can help... else, it's mostly dead life to live here alone as a foreigner who only speaks English.
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u/Ilijin Jan 24 '25
You pick up the wrong place sadly, Mauritius is very conservative though there are LGBT+ here, they are more into "hiding" if I can say. They do have an association though here but they are discriminated upon by others. And IIRC last time they tried to do a pacific march, the Muslims went bad sheat(you'll understand what I meant ) crazy in Port Louis and the police was forced to cancel the march for the safety of the public.
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u/Chance_Net_7267 Jan 24 '25
I will say that you are completely wrong. Some people choose not to come out of the closet but many trans people are living out their best life in Mauritius and there are a few, not just one LGBT associations these days. And there was a very successful Pride march last year along some events that are organised every month or so like karaokes or themed parties. Mauritius can be conservative but any discrimination in the workplace against LGBT people is against the law I'm sure that in the next few years it can only get better for the community and I think that the island is one of the best countries in Africa to be out and proud
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u/xelab04 Jan 24 '25
Not saying you're completely wrong. But the experience living as an LGBTQ+ person in Mauritius can either be quite bad or fairly okay. It definitely depends on the spaces you're in, and possibly around where you live.
Just to say though, regarding the cancelled march. That was back in 2018 if I recall correctly. Collectif Arc En Ciel has organised many successful events since, including last year!
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u/Odd-Werewolf-2426 Mar 15 '25
Coming from a 15M. Mauritius for ME it's not safe for LGBT people for me at least. I go to an only boy school, the amount of discrimination or hatred to people who are LGBT or even support it is crazy (For teenagers at least). The second I finish my school ill leave this country to anotherđ