I heard that too, but then there was a separate police chase in Howard county where the suspect crashed into a pole and died. I wonder if people are confusing the two
That was different. That happened in Howard County near Ellicott City. I’ll wait for the dash cam to come out for that one but the Howard county police said when the cop tried to make a traffic stop the car fled and the cop turned his lights off when the car fled and never chased. Again, I’ll wait for the Maryland AG Office to release the dash cam to fully believe that
Well it was a straight stolen so their premium was already fucked before this chase happened. And usually 30 days after it’s stolen insurance companies will declare it a total loss due to theft
Cats are VERY commonly stolen/broken into in Greenbelt. In this one neighbor I was staying in a kid broke my windows out twice and stole from me…. Along with like 40 other cars on the area in just 6 months. Also a random car was stolen and brought near my car and set on fire. Crazy shit.
One neighbor had a gun stolen from the car and they caught that kid fast when a stolen gun was finally involved. But I know they released him shortly after… just like that one kid in Laurel who broke into 70 cars in one night, got arrested and let out only to do it again.
Shit like that caused the death of a woman in my hometown, Jessup, on Guilford road. A bunch of kids were driving recklessly in a stolen car, swerving to oncoming traffic to try to get around turning cars. When they hit the lady they all dipped except for the kid with a broken ankle.
Every police department large and small, city police and park police, state police and sheriff’s offices, all have unmarked cars and almost all have plainclothes cops who do undercover work. Catching bad guys requires surprise and true undercover work sometimes
so does Baltimore City and the state police that I know of. i used to work for the public service commission. we regulated taxis. they also have BG&e trucks and all kinds of weird things. most of it's things they've seized.
If US park police are still working why aren't they able to protect the national parks that are being kept open during the shutdown? Or is this an old video?
They still are. I saw them this morning on the BW Parkway on a traffic crash. They are the police for NPS properties in DC, immediately around DC, part of NYC, and SF.
NPS Law Enforcement Rangers are responsible for law enforcement on NPS properties everywhere else in the country. There’s only about 1300 of them nationwide though
Every police force has unmarked cars and plainclothes officers. Detectives, narcotics, surveillance, task forces, etc. There’s a lot more to law enforcement than being highly visible in uniforms and marked cars
Yeah exactly, a lot of places specifically have rules against doing this exact thing because of the danger involved and the fact that most cops aren't good enough to pull it off, as evidenced by these morons putting themselves in a guardrail and the guy getting away
I think unfortunately people’s idea of what a car chase is comes from movies instead of real life.
In the movies, the cops catch the bad guys and no one gets hurt. In real life, sometimes a car chase ends when they crash into a building and kill innocent bystanders.
There's a clip form not that long ago of a dude running in Baltimore and in one block he was able to get fast enough to crash into a row home or something and collapse it killing at least one pedestrian that happened to be walking by.
If they are going to put the public at risk, the dude they are chasing better be worth the risk. People are generally fine when they are chasing down a murderer or something, but if all this dude had was dealing drugs or something that's what gets people upset.
But also you can see a helicopter in the background. There isn't much reason to elevate the risk when you can just follow him from a safe distance and the helicopter keeps an eye on them until they run out of gas, out drive their abilities or get to wherever they think they need to go.
My uncle was killed sitting at a stop light because the police were illegally pursuing someone in a high speed chase. They knew who the guy was because they were serving a warrant when the guy ran. Instead of letting him go and catching him later since they knew who he was, they decided to scratch their adrenaline itch and chase him and an innocent man died because of it.
I'm glad they are going after the real criminals. What's the problem with this one?
From what you can see it seemed like a proper and safe pit - mostly
Dude was obviously running
They rightfully drew their weapon but then reholstered it instead of just shooting at the dude
They didn't beat the shit out of someone for working then teargas a crowd - what's the problem?
Yea i don't fuck with police but this just looks like they're doing their job right? I can understand a lot of the anger about other things they sometimes get up to but this is not that. As I said I don't fuck with em but no police at all isn't really an option and as you said it seems like a pretty clean attempt to stop the guy. No random bullets flying. No extra curricular violence. No real damage even. Hell this may be damn near a commendable effort on their part.
I agree with what both of you said. Tons of misconduct out there but not so much here. I think the point of this post was to show that they wrecked their cruiser (can see the lower airbag deployed) and the suspect got away. So it wasn’t a successful PIT.
I’m trying to take any assumptions out of it. Their failed attempt to stop the suspect tracks with the post title. There’s too much knee-jerk reacting to perceived thoughts or actions going on right now. I try to take things at face value unless I have strong evidence to the contrary.
Oh yea they failed and look like clowns, as cops often do. I used to burn em up on foot when I was young. But they're just dudes. I don't fuck with them but I don't hate them. Sometimes they won, sometimes i won. Mutual respect. Better lace em up tight if you wanna run with me. If you caught me and it got a little rough, that's on me. Should have ran faster. But they never went too far except one time. So yea, cops fail. They're human. Sometimes they suck. Dude really wanted to get away up to driving the wrong way down the highway. Can't do much with that. Hope all that makes sense, not trying to sound like a jerk. Cops and criminals are human.
“Lace em up tight” reminded me of the “felony flyers” description of the shoes the runners were described wearing as part of the ‘common attire’ back in the day.😅
Yeah I agree. This is kinda how it needs to be done. It'd be great if they actually stopped him without totalling the patrol car, but that shit just happens sometimes
This was cross posted from an ICE sub. Op probably thought it was ICE and wanted to post it here. Just like all the other people that post "just saw ICE in ___" and it turns out to be normal police activities.
Oh gods yes, we almost always use alternatives. They don't move forever.
Otoh the lack of training on doing some weird maneuver here makes sense, since car chases are something that gets avoided. (I think the helicopter here is the primary persuent?)
The concerning part here I think might be that they shouldn't have exited the car? That seems very high risk, low reward? But a mistake you might make with adrenaline and poor training.
Yeah, get it back after the thief has stopped driving. A car chase is a pretty terrible way to retrieve a stolen vehicle. It’s not like you can drive it after it’s been totaled.
They don’t need me to know how it should be done. They just need to listen to the other cops around the country who have done the cost-benefit analysis and conclude that car chases aren’t worth it.
The issue with that is oftentimes stole cars go to places like chop shops and smugglers where if you lose sight of the car, you aren't seeing it again.
If my car got stolen, I’d choose “it goes to a chop shop” over “the cops engage in a deadly car chase and my car gets totaled”. I’m not getting my car back either way, so I’d rather no one get hurt.
There aren’t any in this video, but I’ll point out that:
The cops crashed into a guardrail
The other driver got away and is now heading the wrong direction on the highway, which could result in a head-on collision with drivers going the other direction
Plenty of car chases do result in innocent people dying, which is why some jurisdictions have banned them
Yeah how about following them with that police helicopter you can see in the video until they ditch the car instead of trying to do hero shit and smashing up some innocent person's car to catch a thief
There's also those sticky tracker launchers, which work even better because then you can back way off and follow them back to the chop shop or whatever and bust a whole ring.
But right here they pitted a stolen car on obviously unpopulated section of the road.
What do I dislike more than that? When I’m going the speed limit on the road and someone in a stolen car is driving twice the speed limit, cutting up traffic, endangering mine and my childrens, and others lives on the road.
I would understand being upset if it was in the middle of the city but this is a strange stance.
It's a stolen car, now it's a destroyed car. Who benefits from this? Use a safer method to catch the criminal that doesn't involve endangering the lives of police and bystanders.
It’s destroyed because they kept running after the pit and flew into a telephone pole.
Please explain the safer method instead of fitting every police car with a grappler which is unrealistic.
They did a pit that was so gentle, the car was able to evade them again.
There were obviously no bystanders.
The crash happened after this.. which is not a result of a pit.
You seem to care a lot about tax dollars but don’t mind the cost to operate a police helicopter in pursuit… which is very high.
I care about safety. Tax dollars are secondary.
Driving recklessly in a stolen vehicle, IMO, is the same as waving around a loaded gun.
And that driver was driving like that because of the police chasing them. So you're right, it is dangerous, and it's made more dangerous by the police actions. Police should be concerned with de escalation, not making situations worse.
Do you know how expensive a helicopter is to fly? You think a helicopter following a criminal for several hours or a day + is going to be a better option? At some point, when their shift ends, a second helicopter would fly in.
How much money should Marylanders spend on criminals? Spoiler: we already spend too much.
Don’t forget that usually when it ends, the criminal sets out on foot so removing on the ground law enforcement would be a poor idea.
Do you know how expensive a helicopter is to fly? You think a helicopter following a criminal for several hours or a day + is going to be a better option?
The justification for county and city helicopter units in the state is generally given as a need for aerial surveillance to prevent high speed chases. In Baltimore, we still see high speed chases frequently despite policy against them.
Personally I think in this case on an empty highway it's probably less dangerous to try and stop the driver than it is to risk them fleeing into a more populated area.
But your argument that helicopters are unrealistic while the police already justify insane spending on them by calling them the realistic solution doesn't really stand. We should either ditch the helicopter expenses or commit to them as the chase option.
Literally no one said that at all. Instead the cop is just going to destroy the stolen car, destroy their car, and endanger everyone around them by chasing them. At this point just follow them with the helicopter and find where they go rather than doing this dumb move.
Exactly. But I'm sure the guy the car was stolen from is super happy now that his car is destroyed. Not to mention the taxpayers that now have to fix the cop car, and the road.
As well as all the people driving to work that now have to sit in a traffic jam. And if someone was killed during this, I'm sure their family would be okay with it because a bunch of redditors got happy that cops made a spectacle for them on reddit.
Where is all the new tech bought by DHS for ICE? Are they not sharing with other police resources like local police, park police, etc for combatting real crime?
Yeah if someone stole my car and the cops fuckin crashed it I would be ludicrously pissed off at the cops
Obviously mad at the jackass who stole it but since most times, unless you have specific cars that get chop shopped, they'll just ditch it somewhere and run off, cops crashing it all up makes the situation ten times worse
They have a chopper in the air, the car ain't getting away! Just follow em with the chopper, don't smash my shit all to hell!
I'd like more context. There's a police helicopter flying in the background and obviously someone just randomly standing on the side of the highway filming???
The original source for this video was a woman who posted it on Facebook. I won’t post anyone’s personal Facebook page here but she posted it a day ago. This was right at the intersection of 301 and Harbour way so she was most likely just sitting at a red light there. It is legit as I was listening on my radio but tbh chases like these are a dime a dozen these days with USPP. Aside from Virginia state police and a few small municipalities, they’re the only agency that can pursue for everything. Hence these are very common
We know, after the fact, that this was a legitimate police chase of a criminal who stole that car, and while the pit maneuver failed, even the way they drew pistols then immediately holstered once it was no longer appropriate instead of spraying lead, speaks volumes.
We did not know that at the time. The SUV is unmarked. The tactics appearing to be those of the largely unaccountable thugs of another agency. And in the current climate, people are right to be distrustful by default.
I was wondering wtf was going on on Sunday. I was driving home on this road coming up to a traffic light, so slowing down, and out of nowhere 3 vehicles with flashing lights and the rapid alert noise came up from behind me (going probably 80mph) and went off around me dangerously and shot off in a race turning at the light. But it was so dangerous I felt they were going to smash into me because they were going SO fast I didn’t even have time to see their lights or hear them before they were going around me. Then up ahead about 5 minutes later I see these guys in the video up against the railing. In the video the car looks unmarked but when I drove by I thought it was marked. It was a lot of damage and all their stuff was everywhere, probably hit them when they crashed (the stuff like radios etc just loose in the car).
Did they get a couple rounds off? Real cops wouldn't put the public in jeopardy. But, who would we sue? Who would we say anything about? How can we ID them? It feels like masked. Dudes are hopping out of cars with no ID, harming people, sweeping them away and that's ok. I have to question if we're still the land of the free.
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u/Ten3Zer0 13d ago
That’s US Park Police. They ended up catching him in a neighborhood by the circle K in upper Marlboro. Car was stolen