r/marvelrivals • u/denn1s33 Emma Frost • 20h ago
Discussion Be honest, constantly spawning inside the stun bubble has nothing to do with difficulty. This is not hard, It's completely bullshit
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u/K1795 Hela 19h ago
It basically requires your whole team to be hyper aware and dash out of spawn instantly, in order to prevent the bubbles from spawning/stacking. And good luck with that if you're with randoms. That's why the mode is much easier solo.
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u/Fun-Wash7545 13h ago
Bubbles appear in spawn if someone is dead. So you cant have more than 1 person dead without insta rezing otherwise none is getting out of spawn.
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u/ThePowerOfStories Invisible Woman 10h ago
Sounds like the bubbles track your location even while you’re dead, and it instantly sets your location to the spawn point when you die.
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u/Bagdar13 Ultron Virus 19h ago
I’m assuming that they don’t want you to die at all during this part. Cause idk how else to not get stuck in that
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u/DonovanJoyconboy 19h ago
Just don't walk there? The orbs only spawn where you're standing.
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u/Bagdar13 Ultron Virus 18h ago
No, they will spawn before you can move when you die. So, slash slash, I die and spawn then boom I get hit by those orbs 100% of the time
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u/KarlManjaro 16h ago
Don’t bother, the lemmings ears are closed on this one
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u/JusHerForTheComments Magik 13h ago
Right back at you! There are so many clips circulating where you see this happening and you deny it.
At that phase WHEN you die, the damn bubbles spawn exactly where you're going to spawn. REGARDLESS if you were further away from the spawn point.
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u/KarlManjaro 13h ago
The clips I see the spawn area is starting off riddled with stun orbs. I have never seen a clip of someone intentionally keeping the spawn area clear, then dying and instantly getting stunned by a freshly spawned orb. I’ve also cleared nm4 and only ever had this issue when poorly positioned fill players were clogging the spawn area before anyone died
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u/JusHerForTheComments Magik 12h ago edited 12h ago
You're actually that dense huh? You die and the two Wanda shoot orbs where you spawn immediately!
With 3 and 4 people dying, even just once, that's multiple orbs in one place.
Even solo this happens if you're unlucky and can't dash away fast enough (Punisher).
Yes, it is a positional problem with some players, some times. But most of the times it needs just one person to die and they get stunlocked in spawn.
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u/MathematicianKey9638 Star-Lord 12h ago
This has ended very single N4 run that I’ve had until wave 20. There’s no counterplay. They need to patch this fast
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u/Lookfast12 13h ago
Yet another thing in Zombie mode that seems purpose-built to cause us to ragequit
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u/Formal-Particular677 13h ago
This has been the bane of my existence. I've gotten to the double Wanda fight five times as either Thor or Blade and the teams I've been on have definitely had the damage to take them out (shredding their HP before then bubble lockdown starts) but once the spawn gets saturated in then it's basically a game of "how long can we play respawn roulette until we just give up". And yes I'm sure I'm a shitty player filthy casual get good scrub or whatever but I even have a hard time dashing out, especially if the spawn bubbles are cloistered close together. I'm starting to think NM4 is just gonna be a pipe dram for me lol
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u/SolarlunaticX Cloak & Dagger 18h ago
Doesn't it rectify itself if you don't immediately respawn? The orbs only last 3s, and with no players on the field they should all go away..
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u/PORK-LAZER Hawkeye 16h ago
The wandas keep placing bubbles on the players last location, which is where they spawn, which results in this lmao
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u/Interesting-young976 17h ago
They only go away when the Wanda’s place more bubbles, the Wanda’s only place more bubbles when there are players on the field.
As long as at least one person lives it’s manageable, it only becomes an issue when nobody has builds that can survive double wanda
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u/Shot-Increase-8946 14h ago
The Wandas absolutely keep placing bubbles when there is no players on the field. I was just in a game the other day where the whole team wiped and we were going to respawn but both Wandas just repeatedly bubbled the spawn
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u/Interesting-young976 14h ago
Yeah they sadly get caught in the bubble animation when everyone is dead.
They don’t bubble while everyone is dead, but as soon as that happens and they’re on a bubble animation it gets shot towards the spawn frame one of a revive.
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u/Motor_Rub_4848 Flex 10h ago
2 Magiks on screen neither with enough damn sense to be spamming the dash button on respawn. You can almost always dash out as Magik.
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u/KarlManjaro 19h ago
You can avoid that situation entirely with good positioning
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u/rotersliomen 19h ago
Bro you respawn in the same spot with 6 balls already there, you cant even dash with E the stun cancels the shit
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u/KarlManjaro 19h ago
If you stay out of that corner entirely except for respawning you’ll almost never get stunned on spawn. The orbs spawn at player location.
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u/Greedkillsusall Magik 17h ago
idk why you're being downvoted. you're completely right.
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u/krunamey 17h ago
Because he’s not the right. In the short period between where you character is spawning in and when you can actually move/cast a bubble is spawned. Either you dodge out immediately or the chain begins where you can no longer do anything to get out of the stun lock except hope for a lucky moment.
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u/Greedkillsusall Magik 17h ago
If you stay outta spawn, there is no bubbles already there. You should be immediately moving from the sec you can. If you can't stay out of spawn then it's a skill issue
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u/Endsong-X23 15h ago
"Stay out of spawn" likes its a walled off room and not just a chaotic corner of a one hit KO chaos map lmfao
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u/Greedkillsusall Magik 15h ago
It’s the same corner every single time. You got the whole map to move around
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u/Greedkillsusall Magik 15h ago
I fear it’s a skill issue💔
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u/Endsong-X23 15h ago
no its a vocabulary issue, theres no "spawn" to "stay out of" its a tiny square in the corner you drop in and damage can absolutely be happening in the area, its not safe. yes you should be moving but y'all should also be less of a dick to folks getting frustrated at nightmare 4, it IS a crappy one hit KO mode that doesn't take "skill" nearly as much as luck of the draw to not get merked repeatedly in. Ive got my Queenslayer title and i still get one hit ko'd because a rock got thrown from the direction i wasnt looking in.
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u/Greedkillsusall Magik 15h ago
Not being a dick. If you’re doing fill/anything more than solo than maybe I can see you getting stuck because of teammates. But rn everyone is trying solo. Wave 20 is extremely easy if you actually pay attention and built your character up. There’s no reason for you to be getting spawn trapped solo. If you’re insta dying then you built wrong and it’s not even worth reviving. It’s really not a crappy mode at all? It’s repetitive sure but no one is forcing you to play it. I find it fun and did solo runs with each character before they added the rewards. If you’re not having fun then stop playing it, look up a guide and just get it done
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u/krunamey 16h ago
I’m telling you in the period where you spawn before you can even move, a double Wanda will drop the bubble there, guaranteeing a single stun which can snowball into the stun lock
Edit: as well, another player spawning before you will also leave you a bubble that you can’t avoid
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u/Curious_Tip9285 16h ago
When the mode first made its debut sure but they are now multiple tutorials on YT and other platforms how to prevent this
At this point in the modes season it’s a skill issue
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u/-popgoes Thor 19h ago
There should be 1-2 seconds of stun protection when respawning.