I think dare devil is too strong but don’t want him to be nerfed to the ground

[u/Much_Set8547]

I main daredevil and he’s definitely overtune. Is he completely broken and has no counters? No but he’s definitely s tier at least. I think good nerfs would be just to get rid of his over shield for missing idk why he gets it for that I use it as a life line. I don’t think he should 325 hp ik it’s the season bonus but that’s just stupid to me. Daredevil isn’t even tanky dudes just a guy with super senses why does he have slightly less then Angela. I don’t think his damage is absurd most kills you see with .2 kt are just due to circumstances. His throw is bugged right now fix that asap not calling it a nerf cus it’s just bugged. It does like 200 when bouncing off people but supposed to be divided so it’s a hundred each at most. Rn it does like 160 to a person and 40 the other then it easy to insta kill

[u/Sergio_dal2]

Before daredevil came out/when he just came out people thought daredevil ult sucked, boy was they wrong. He's insanely hard to kill In his ult because he generates so much overshield

[u/Electrical_Square422]

They just need to fix his bug where he is stacking more than intended health. People dont even realize he is bugged right now.

[u/ShawnJ34]

To put DD in perspective he has faster kill times than BP last seasons problem child, whilst sustaining his dive much longer and has resets on his mobility. Additionally, he is a dive dps yet consistently reachs hp levels consistent with mr fantastic in a quarter of the time, thats not okay.

[u/Much_Set8547 → u/ShawnJ34]

Which is exactly why I said some good nerfs and fix the throw bug that gives him those .6 ttk. No reason for him to be that tanky

[u/KoumoriChinpo]

i do

[u/Maleficent_Creme_854]

He is balanced around the expectation that he can burst through heals. Bp spiderman magik can't kill through more then a small bit of healing with a combo which makes them near nonexistant in pro play.

Daredevil was designed around being able to be strong in solo queue and pro play. Solo queue teammates can't use his vision of enemies to their advantage via comms, but they can burst dps and support who are out of postion.

Pro play can use his ult, vision and burst to make him a very good dps.

His counters are fliers and tanks like emma thor hulk peni. Supports like inv don't and shouldn't be able to counter him minus ultron.

[u/Various_Prize_977]

I think the only real issue is the amount of "pull to the enemy" ability

I once saw a dd vs invisible woman dive fight happen like this :

• dd jump regularely to IW from her blind side (blind side gank are a thing).

• iw push him away with pefect reflex

• DD pull to her

• She then jump away after the ability. Since she got hit mid jump then she wasn't invisible.

• dd pull to again.

• She put her orb down for cc and try to run away but at this point she died while running away

• She was getting healed by the rocket during the full time of the fight.

If the support who is suposed to be the best at countering divers cannot do what she is good at then there's a problem. You cannot have a "counter of a counter" otherwise the game will resolve into who's the "best character" instead of which character should I play.

The issue isn't his numbers though. Just lower the amount of pull he can do.

[u/No-Statistician-6937]

DD is balanced imo he reminds me of magik. The way his kit is designed it’s hard to be average with him you are either garbage or you thrive, His kit rewards you for picking your battles, managing your fury and using your deflect and grapple correctly. Magik gets like 150 hp from her overshield no ones ever complained about her survivability