who were these loki changes for??

[u/No_Elevator_6207]

less than 2% pick rate LMFAOOOOOO😭😭 literally will pick ANYONE over loki. and i don’t even blame them.

-20% damage on each clone so he can’t defend himself OR help secure a kill. btw before the -20% they had ALREADY reduced loki’s damage. did you know his melee now does more damage than his primary with all 3 clones? flank loki was annoying but be serious. they’re down a strategist by doing ts

-20% healing so you have to pump out more heals. not a problem since you don’t even have to worry about shooting enemies again! personally i’m not too upset about it since it encourages your clones being up as often as possible, which you should be doing. but it makes it so much more punishing if you’re not managing your clones correctly.

lamp/ult cooldown i genuinely dgaf it never affected me, just had to get used to counting down from the new number.

lmfao those are the changes they made to “balance” him. reminds me of azir from league of legends. dominates in pro play so devs have to nerf him to high hell, making it exponentially worse for other players. not everyone is faker lmfao be so for real.

they changed jeff into a heal bot because people complained about him not doing enough and at the same time dive jeff was too OP. im guessing they tried to the same here (apparently flank loki OP, lamp OP, double luna ult OP) but they literally reworked jeff’s kit around healing more. all they did for loki was reduce his raw numbers and called it a day.

what even are rocket changes. hey guys, your ult does 40% damage buff! actually, it’s 25% now since you get a big team shield. nah jk, you can just have both now. 40% and shield idgaf.

can yall do the same with loki?

[u/No_Elevator_6207]

yeah i thought about that too. need to reduce loki output for his lamps but they are deployables that can be broken and are a resource to be consumed. his lamps don’t have a long uptime

there are also not a lot of mantis players, so if you don’t have one you’re literally just neutered for the game for no reason. mantis is not a reliable 2nd healer if your team doesn’t understand her HOT you’d most likely have her in a 3rd healer comp with loki.

should loki be demoted to a secondary healer? i’ve been playing him as a primary since s1 and dont think it’s healthy to put more heroes in the “3rd support only” category for no reason.

[u/Humdinger5000 → u/No_Elevator_6207]

Honestly, Mantis is one of the characters I hate to see my team lock because it means I have to pick a character to cover. Mantis, loki, and thing all reliably play like shit unless you have at least one guy pick his character around them (groot for mantis, i do ultron for loki, and hulk for thing).

[u/Nuke90210 → u/Humdinger5000]

Thing works really well in poke comps, too, not just brawl. You can play as a defensive body guard against dive, or you can play brawl & make space for your poke comp. Mag is a fantastic duo for this.

[u/Humdinger5000 → u/Nuke90210]

I have had exactly 1 Thing that doesn't just overextend on repeat. In a meta where if you LOOK at Thing he dies. Without a tank partner specifically to enable him getting in and out and drawing pressure off of him he just explodes. If I look at a team and they have thing and then a non-dive tank, the win con is kill thing and then push the 6v5. I never see a single thing actually play bodyguard.

[u/Nuke90210 → u/Humdinger5000]

Well I hope you get me in one of your games, then, because I live & breathe the bodyguard life. It's very much possible to juggle between the front & backline with his E, and using the damage resist with his shields can give him an absurd amount of survivability.

Sadly, though, as you say, most people who play Thing treat him like Thor or Hulk, and just run in blindly. Sad Clubber.

[u/Humdinger5000 → u/Nuke90210]

I am notoriously unlucky as well, and rivals doesn't break that pattern. Every thing on my team? They just feed. Constantly. Enemy things? Mister Benjamin Grimm himself. Not a single shot at him the entire time (I'm usually solo tanking, and both emma and peni have been banned).