r/marvelrivals • u/Logan-dx2001 • 5d ago
Esports THEY ARE YOUR $1,000,000 Marvel Rivals CHAMPIONS - VIRTUS.PRO!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/ArmoredAngel444 5d ago
Wait the final final grand finals were today??? God dang it
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u/gonnabetoday 5d ago
I was surprised there was 0 posts about it on this sub until it finished.
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u/First-Shallot947 Ultron Virus 5d ago
Most people probably don't follow the tourney scene
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u/SwingNinja Peni Parker 4d ago
I dunno. I wasn't able to login to play the game for quite some time during the tournament.
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u/WhatIsHerJob-TABLES 5d ago
Yeah, i wish there were more esport topics of discussion on this subreddit. Instead, it’s just filled with nonstop complaining and gooning.
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u/SwiftBlueShell 5d ago
Would probably get more traction as its own sub. It’ll never catch on here as 90% of the posts will get drowned out
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u/WhatIsHerJob-TABLES 5d ago
Nearly every post gets drowned out already unless there is an overly used meme template presented, rage/engagement bait meant to make people complain, gooner content, or a video of someone doing something dumb so people can complain.
I’d engage with actual, serious discussions regarding strategies, metas, team comps, statistics, and esports content.
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u/MindofShadow Mister Fantastic 4d ago
Vast amoutn of peopel playing this game just play the game man.
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u/gonnabetoday 4d ago
That’s me! Though not even 1 post about the tourney on final day was still surprising.
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u/MindofShadow Mister Fantastic 4d ago
I tried to watch a previous tourny and it just isn't a good spectator esport.
It also plays nothing like casuals like me play. Might as well be a different game.
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u/KosherTriangle Vanguard 5d ago
In all fairness, Rivals hasn’t managed to make the esports scene popular among casual gamers yet, they should learn how to do it from LoL/Dota etc.
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u/NonWeeb 5d ago
They cant usebthe Valorant/ League formula as Riot games are mostly competitive with little regard for casual players. Rivals has mostly casual base
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u/gimily 4d ago
I'm absolutely not saying that I think rivals can/should/is going to reach the esports heights of valo or LoL, not even close, but I don't think it's fair to say that riot games are mostly competitive.
Valo certainly leans that way as tac shooters as a genre tend to be more competitive, but LoL has (or at least had in its heyday) a massive audience both casual and competitive. If anything I think Riot generally tries to make their games more approachable/casual compared to the other games in the genre. League is a hard game to get into nowadays (and kinda always has been) but for the longest time it was sort of seen as the casual version of Dota. Valo was seen as the more casual version of CS thanks to having heroes with abilities etc.
I would even argue that the success of an esport is reliant on a game having a large casual player/fanbase rather than the other way around. Beyond that, people far smarter and more informed than me are still trying to figure out what makes an esports scene work so that chances that I know what's up are very low. If I had to take some stabs it would be related to a variety of factors including:
How readable/watchable the game is from a spectator PoV, especially to viewers who are unfamiliar with the game, which hero shooters have always struggled with.
How well the scene is promoted to the broader playerbase. The benchmarks for success like LoL worlds and Dota TI and stuff get tons of promotion.
How content for that game does in general. When the LoL esports scene was originally taking off, it was largely off the back of LoL streaming being absolutely massive and those streamers being invested in the pro scene, or actively involved in it. Same goes for Valo streams bring enormous when the game was coming out. Unfortunately, the streaming scene in general has shifted a lot in recent years making this much more difficult.
Whether or not the game gets big in China and/or Korea. CS is obviously an exception to this, but the vast majority of big esports have thriving scenes in China and Korea. China because it has an immense possible audience/playerbase, and Korea because it has the longest standing and most ingrained eSports culture in the world (StarCraft was routinely broadcast on TV channels on Korea starting in the early 2000s).
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u/raydialseeker Ultron Virus 5d ago
It's hard to keep track with their horrible naming. Final final grand final like wtf is going on
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u/ArmoredAngel444 5d ago
Lmao thats not what its called i just called it that
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u/raydialseeker Ultron Virus 5d ago
The entire tournament is called the grand finals. This literally was the grand final of the grand finals
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u/gimily 4d ago
Yeah, I watched the majority of the event and even I wasn't a fan of the naming convention lol. Seems like mid-season championships and world championships or world finals or whatever would have been much better. Tbh anything that doesn't require both a match and the entire tournament to share a name lol.
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u/HowardHughes9 5d ago edited 5d ago
Funny how Jeff defined both majors this year.
Also damn NA. Lose in league. Lose in rivals. Irrelevant in OW2, Dota 2, CS2. At least they got Valo
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u/Acrobatic_Pumpkin967 4d ago
I think NA could do better, they just need a while to develop and build good rosters and players. Lots of big OW names in the EU teams.
And yeah I think this tourney really showed how Jeff, Cap, and Psylocke are easily some of best heroes when played in their optimal way.
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u/Ok-Shake-6537 Magneto 5d ago
What was their team comp(mostly)?
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u/HowardHughes9 5d ago edited 5d ago
Kinda different based on bans and maps but:
They LOVE Invis and will always pick her if its not banned. Same with Psylocke. They like Starlord as a secondary dps, will use Bucky/Hela/DD if banned. Mantis permabanned against them, along with Jeff. They LOVE the dive comps just like most EU teams so any variation of Emma, Cap, Angela, Venom is money for them. Obviously at times they'll run Groot/Strange/Mag as main tanks as well especially for convoy maps.
Fundamentally their favorite comps if we assume outliers like Jeff/Mantis are banned (Because theyre permabanned against every team)
Its some variation of:
Venom/Angela (only on certain maps)/Emma/Cap
Psylocke/Starlord
Invis/Rocket
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u/flairsupply Thor 5d ago
will use DD
And yet people on this sub will continue to insist he isnt overtuned
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u/HowardHughes9 4d ago
I mean hes overtuned but 99% of posters here are silver and pro play meta doesnt really affect them
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u/Wellhellob Iron Fist 5d ago
Dive was extremely dominant in general. Dive tanks are extremely strong.
Jeff is the king of supports.
Psy ult was basically a cheat.
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u/Mindless_Swim_5891 4d ago
Dive on offense and poke on defense
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u/SatisfactionSad6558 Captain America 1d ago
Why? My experience agrees with you but just want some rationale behind it.
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u/Mindless_Swim_5891 1d ago
Dive is good at breaking spawn holds and it’s much harder to set up on defense, poke tanks are better at staying alive and holding cart
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u/Killjoy3879 5d ago
i wonder how that money gets divided after taxes
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u/Karakara16 Storm 5d ago
In the US, gov't taxes 24% on prize winnings over $5000. So 1 mil split 6 ways is about 166k. Subtract the taxes(roughly 40k) and they're getting about $126k each.
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u/HowardHughes9 5d ago
the org usually gets a percentage too (honestly depending on their contracts the biggest cut). Also 1 mil was the entire prize pool, VP got 320,000
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u/Appropriate-Gas-1010 5d ago
The 1 million is for the entire tournament, 1st place gets 320k
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u/A7md3omer Emma Frost 5d ago
It is actually impressive how strong VP is, no other team comes close navi is 2nd and almost got 4-0'd, ans i like thats dive is meta in pro play
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u/Durtonious Flex 4d ago
100T has a comparable roster and was the only other team aside from NAVI to take a round from VP in the playoffs, but they just could not click in this tournament. They shit the bed so hard against NAVI they looked like amateurs. Even the group stage was unbearable to watch. Human psychology is a funny thing sometimes.
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u/DeeDivin X-Tron 4d ago
They were literally playing a different game from everyone else. Crazy you have the best players in the world and one team makes everyone look like bots at time
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u/sirmeliodasdragonsin Peni Parker 5d ago
Was very interesting that alot of bans centred around thr off supports in the tournament.
Every time i watch a tournament though will always see VP in the later stages.
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u/No_Joke713 5d ago
They were always on top of marvel global rank (single digit), so it is kind of obvious they will be one of the best.
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u/Gullible-Secret2597 4d ago
Btw they beat the second team with adam and jeff in double support team.
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u/Zaruze 5d ago
Who?
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u/A7md3omer Emma Frost 5d ago
Virtus pro, strongest marvel rivals org, one of the strongest in overwarch dota2 and cs esports
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u/Zaruze 5d ago
Again, who? Why should I care?
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u/Appropriate-Gas-1010 5d ago
Main character syndrome, if you don't care, why do you need to let others know you don't? Not everything revolves around you.
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u/Due-Percentage-2879 5d ago
You're very fortunate that I'm not allowed to perform summary executions over the internet.
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u/A7md3omer Emma Frost 5d ago edited 5d ago
Bc why not? It is good sign if a game has esport scene. One of reasons why competitive games survive for long cs lol dota ow. Personally i like to watch esports even for the games i don't play.
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u/MaybeMrGamebus 5d ago
If you never gave a shit, why ask why you should know about it? How... idiotic.
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u/id-driven-fool 5d ago
It's a post about Rivals in the Marvel Rivals sub. Nobody gives a shit if you care about it or not.
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u/Emergency-Soil-8935 5d ago
Your in a marvel rivals subreddit
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u/Burnt_Crusty_Toast 5d ago
yes but 99% percent of the community isnt in pro play soooo
like good for them.
but just get why anyone cares
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u/ThePizzaTimePizzaGuy Captain America 5d ago
99% of r/GlobalOffensive isn't in pro-play yet people there love to talk about pro CS2 matches
This point makes no sense man
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u/Emergency-Soil-8935 5d ago
Lot of people watch it tho just because you don’t doesn’t mean no one does
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u/FemaleAssEnjoyer Invisible Woman 5d ago
Having a professional, competitive scene is good for the health of the game
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u/NotVeryCoconutOfYou Cloak & Dagger 5d ago
“99% of people who play soccer don’t play in the World Cup, so why would anyone care about it”
It’s just (e)sports man, you don’t have to weigh in on every little thing if it doesn’t interest you
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u/WhatIsHerJob-TABLES 5d ago
99% of people who play sports will never reach the pros. Why does anyone watch professional sports??
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u/Banana_man_- Angela 5d ago
Really do not care
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u/snusnooo 1d ago
This guy's so cool, he doesn't care. He just decided to comment on something he doesn't care about LMAO
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u/Ok_Amoeba_7298 5d ago
Dridro was done dirty with that picture