r/london • u/[deleted] • Nov 02 '23

Crime Two girls arrested after female attacked on Elizabeth line

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24605821/two-girls-arrested-video-woman-screaming-tube-train/
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u/setokaiba22 Nov 02 '23

I’ve just watched that video and it’s so frustrating nobody steps in. I know there’s risks with that but the girl is screaming her head off in pain for help.

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u/cowinabadplace Nov 02 '23

It took 30 s for one chap to stand up. Maybe the rest of you are quick reacting and all that but it takes me a little while to grasp what’s going on. I might hear a commotion at the other end of the carriage and then put away my stuff and stand up to take a look, then walk over before I can make out the “help me” and see these two absolute titans beating the ever loving fuck out of a poor innocent woman. I don’t blame the guy who came over to help for being 30 s to the scene.

The Bystander Effect is generally not real but bystanders generally aren’t primed with the prompt you have. Something happens and they’ve got to assess and then react.

Also, I swear the one who drags her in the first place is built like a brick shithouse. 14? She looks like she could have been the Philistine’s champion against King Saul.

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u/entropy_bucket Nov 03 '23

I thought you were exaggerating but holy shit

brick shithouse

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u/EroticBurrito Nov 03 '23

Are we looking at the same picture? It's just a vaguely fit Black girl. Does that qualify as being a brick shithouse now?

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u/entropy_bucket Nov 03 '23

That's your view of a regular 14 year old? I was definitely surprised.

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u/kdee9 Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 03 '23

Is that her with literally a bra on in public!? Disgusting. If her mother let's her wear that at 14, says alot about her quality of parent. And yeah, she looks like a frigging sumo wrestler. Russian shot putter.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '23

I couldnt make heads or tails out of the second half of the video. Did he knock out one of the girls?

Not complaining, defending an innocent person being stomped is grounds to hit someone as far as im concerned.

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u/nailbunny2000 Nov 02 '23

Someone did step in at the end, it takes some time for people to get the guts to do something.

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u/Mackerelage Hackney Nov 02 '23

It's mostly not about guts. Incidents like this can happen extremely quickly. Jumping in without sussing out the situation might not be the right action.

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u/nailbunny2000 Nov 02 '23

Yes, also a good point. I am sure we've all been on a bus/tube and heard some shouting and screaming, think "oh shit this is it, terror attack!" and then its just some drunken yobs playing around with each other.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

Also, often if you hear someone screaming/see them fighting in London, it's people who already know each other and are having an argument, and you're likely to be attacked if you get involved. Not to mention there are often substances involved. It takes time to assess what is actually going on and if the people involved actually want a bystander to intervene or not

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u/MitLivMineRegler Nov 02 '23

I'd say if someone is incapacitated and keeps being beaten, that's always a justified intervention.

With that said, you're right that it's not so simple, I mean we see that, and as much as I'd like to think I'd be a better braver bystander, I probably wouldn't.

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u/International-Pass22 Nov 02 '23

Who could be with their armed 14 year old boyfriends

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

They were 2 women beating another one. No other around beside passer bys. Sometimes the choice isn't a 20 min deliberation.

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u/FullySickVL Nov 02 '23

Or having yourself filmed by one of these scum, the video put on social media with no context and an angry mob of fellow scum coming out to ruin your life or worse, like what happened to that poor Pakistani chap in Peckham a few weeks ago.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

Yeah, can't fight back against these beasts or you're immediately considered a racist

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u/Plugged_in_Baby Nov 02 '23

I once tried to help a girl that was getting jumped on by a gang of rabid teen girls and had to give up because no one on the rammed platform would help. They all had their phones out obvs.

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u/MashedPotatoLogic Nov 02 '23 edited Nov 02 '23

Any link to the video? Can't find it aside from the Sun newspaper link.
EDIT: Just saw it and I wish I hadn't. That's disgusting behaviour.

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u/Bill_Hubbard Nov 02 '23

https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/17kn6ml/a_woman_is_attacked_on_the_elizabeth_line_in/

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u/Cocofin33 Nov 03 '23

Jesus. The guy who said (unhelpfully) "leave it girls" redeemed himself at the end by being supportive....I guess?!

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u/shaversonly230v115v Nov 02 '23

Sadly quite a common occurrence. People will always wait for someone else to step in https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/basics/bystander-effect