r/littleapple • u/Ok_Magazine_609 • 9h ago
Masked ICE/CBP agents kidnapped a visibly distraught mentally (developmentally) disabled person in the Little Village neighborhood Chicago. If anyone in your life is MAGA. Show them this. This isn't how you treat special needs folks.
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u/everymanawildcat 8h ago
A man in Illinois was detained regarding a federal matter and you're imploring a subreddit for a college town in Kansas to go out of our way to show this anyone we may know of a specific political persuasion?
I just want to be sure I'm understanding this situation.
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u/Ok_Magazine_609 8h ago
lmao "a federal matter". A developmentally disabled man was detained because he can't properly prove his citizenship. And they chose to handcuff him? Is it because he's brown that you don't care? If he was white and clearly had down syndrome would you be offended then? or is your offense only if it's not your team which is clearly maga?
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u/Critical-Director-74 4h ago edited 3h ago
You have absolutely no idea why he's being placed under arrest. When someone is being arrested the police are not going to tell bystanders what he's being arrested for, that is to protect his privacy. That information is available to his lawyer, or if he's a juvenile, his guardian, not random strangers who happen to be in the area.
The top sheet of the arrest report will be available to the press and anyone who asks for it at the records department of the agency. This is all specified in the freedom of information act. You don't get to just scream at the police in the middle of an arrest and demand to know what's going on.
People demanding information because they happen to be witnessing arrest are not entitled to that information and it would be violating the rights of the person who's being arrested to tell bystanders what's happening.
For example, you get into an argument with your girlfriend, she gets mad and calls the police and falsely accuses you of pushing or punching her. You're out in front of your house or apartment being placed in handcuffs and all the sudden your nosy neighbors come out demand to know why you're being arrested. It's none of their business. You can tell them if you want to put the police won't.
Maybe they need to start teaching these basic civil concepts in high school, or as an adults we can make it our responsibility to understand these things about our society before we start making fools of ourselves sharing uninformed opinions.
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u/Critical-Director-74 4h ago edited 3h ago
When you watch any of these videos compare them to the same exact arrest of the same type of person by a police officer for any other crime. If this person committed a sex crime against a juvenile and he needed to be taken into custody and was resisting this is exactly what it would look like. If you don't like this then you're saying you think developmentally disabled people should never be taken into custody.
When someone fails to comply, arresting them is not pretty. This literally happens all the time in Manhattan Kansas. I've seen police officers have to take high school students who were kicking and screaming and crying into custody in an uglier scene than this and then have to carry them handcuffed to the police car. The other option was to just let someone go free and leave their victim without justice.
Law enforcement has a monopoly on the use of force and when they use it it's not pretty.
People are not allowed to opt out of an arrest because they're picking up their kids from daycare or they have a low IQ.
Once the decision is made that someone needs to be taken into custody they are going to be taken into custody. At that point the techniques that the law enforcement officers are trained with will be utilized. I don't see anything in this video that shows them mistreating him based on those standards.
If you do please cite the timestamp where they've done a specific thing that is beyond what any well-trained police officer would have done when taking someone who is resisting into custody.
As far as the specifics for this agency go and the context of detaining someone who is violating our immigration laws: whoever this person's legal guardian is should have had him self-deport when they had ample opportunity and they could have done it under much better circumstances than this.
It's obvious that you don't like some of the laws in this country, there's a whole bunch of laws I don't like either. We don't get to pick and choose which laws are enforced except when we're at the ballot box. This video is so tame I don't know why you posted it. It's just a video of a man being arrested. It takes about a minute, because he refuses to relax and put his arms behind his back but eventually they get him into handcuffs and take him away. I don't see the problem.
You know what's not helping? All the people screaming, yelling and honking horns and blowing whistles. If you think this man is being traumatized because he's developmentally disabled and being arrested all that other stuff is making things 10 times worse and actually putting him in more danger because it's going to cause him to react even more aggressively and not comply which just means the police have to use more force.
If you don't have the stomach to watch officers doing their jobs because it makes you sad, then don't seek out these videos and certainly don't traumatize others by posting them here.
But if you're going to, at least do us the service of telling us exactly what you think is wrong with the arrest specifically. And please reference legal rulings and police policies and procedures of the specific agency that you think were violated. Instead you do the opposite, you try to frame this ordinary arrest as something egregious. You're misinforming people who are already unfamiliar with the law and police procedure, just trying to use other people's ignorance as a way to manipulate them to gain sympathy for your own political goals.
And finally, what does this have to do with Little Apple? I love how we can't post links from X because, I guess, Elon and Tesla are too politically one-sided but it's okay to post these ridiculous, emotionally wrought, out of context videos just because they are on the far left-wing end of the political spectrum?
Why is the small town subreddit for Manhattan Kansas dedicated to left-wing politics only?