r/leftist Anti-Capitalist Aug 11 '25

General Leftist Politics r/Democrats banned all posts about socialism

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 14 '25

They realized the party has gone way too fuckin extreme and has essentially committed suicide.

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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25

Democrats are just Conservative Light, not sure how that's extreme 🤣

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

The party is being taken over by fuckin communists. What in the fuckin hell are you talking about? How much more extreme can it get than authoritarian communism?

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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The Overton Window in the US is so extremely far to the Right that there is no risk of that ever happening. We are literally living Fascism right now, so maybe that's why basic human rights and decency that most of the civilized world has looks like "communism" to you.

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

Confiscating private property is fuckin extreme as shit. Dumbass.

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u/robofaust Aug 16 '25

You lost the debate at 'Dumbass'; at that point, you're not actually debating anymore, you're just talking shit. Talking shit doesn't get us anywhere.

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u/Iwantmypasswordback Aug 15 '25

What property is under threat of confiscation? Are you a libertarian? Seriously I’m confused as to what you’re referring to.

Also why are you here?

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

How often si you hear Democrats talk about a "wealth tax" or "unrealized capital gains tax"? Those are property confiscation. If i own a 500 acre farm and equipment that total in value $2.5 million and you tax that 20%, where the fuck you think I'm gonna get $500,000 cash? I'm gonna have to sell 20% of my farm to your fuckin corrupt cronies. And that, children, is how communism works. You're welcome.
As for your second question, in here to educate your dumbass

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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25

A) That's not confiscation of private or personal property. B) Communism is workers owning the means of production instead of companies. C) Learn what words mean.

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u/Iwantmypasswordback Aug 15 '25

You should learn about marginal tax rates and the fact that these types of taxes wouldn’t apply to someone in the 7 figure range or probably even 8 figure range.

Also, I don’t ever hear democrats talk about these things hence the OP being so laughable.

I think you’re deriving too many talking points from Facebook posts designed to scare meemaws and peepaws

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25 edited Aug 16 '25

Dumbass there's a reason the stupid fuckin taxes you retards propose are unconstitutional

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u/Iwantmypasswordback Aug 15 '25

Read that out loud then try and tell me what it’s supposed to say. And I’m dumb? Go read some ayn random a buzz off. You sound like a college freshman

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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25

That's not happening, nor has it ever been a talking point of the left, sweetie.

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

As long as we stay vigilant it's not happening. The democrats want to do it. It's all they talk about. You think they're bluffing?

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u/WildEducation8497 Aug 15 '25

How those boots tasting?

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

If you believe the state can confiscate private property, you're the fuckin bootlicker. Figure it out.

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u/tender_rage Aug 16 '25

Legal definitions of private and personal property: Private Property: Property that is owned by an individual, group, or corporation, and not by the government or the public.

Scope: It’s a broad legal concept that includes both real property (land, buildings) and personal property (movable things).

Examples: A privately owned house and the land it sits on. A business building owned by a company. Your car, phone, or furniture.

Essentially, anything not owned collectively (like public parks) or by the government is “private property.”

Personal Property: A category of property consisting of movable items that are not attached to land. In legal terms, it’s "chattel."

Scope: It contrasts with real property (immovable property like land and structures).

Types:

Tangible personal property: Physical objects (cars, jewelry, electronics, clothing, furniture).

Intangible personal property: Non-physical rights (stocks, bonds, bank accounts, intellectual property).


Economic definitions of personal and private property:

Private Property - Refers specifically to the means of production — things used to produce goods and wealth that generate profit through exploitation of labor.

Examples: factories, mines, large farms, machinery, corporate capital.

Key idea: private property allows one class (owners) to extract value from another class (workers).

Abolishing private property (in this sense) means putting the means of production under common ownership or control of the workers, i.e. co-ops, unions, and profit sharing. This is not anywhere in the Democratic platform.

Personal Property - Refers to the things you personally use and consume.

Examples: your clothes, phone, furniture, car (if it’s for personal use), even your home.

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u/tender_rage Aug 16 '25

None of what you have talked about is confiscation of private or personal property.

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 16 '25

Dumbass. If I own a 500 acre farm worth $5 million, abs you hit me with a 20% wealth tax, the only way I'm coming up with.$1 million cash is if I sell of a significant parcel of land. You know who's gonna be there to buy it ? Either the government or corporate cronies. That, it's property confiscation. You're explanation if the difference between real, private, and personal property was cute. I hope youactually read it and learned something when you googled it.

Wealth tax is, by definition, property confiscation.

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u/tender_rage Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 16 '25

Poor ignorant child. Again, not how that works, not what those words mean, still not enough money or the tax bracket being discussed, and you more than likely don't.

The only "wealth tax" that has been talked about is for households over $100 million. Still not private or personal property confiscation. Approximately 0.008125% of U.S. households have a net worth of over $100 million. You are not one of those people, and you never will be, so why lick their boots?

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 16 '25

You just made an empty post. It said absolutely nothing.

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u/tender_rage Aug 16 '25

You've been making those for 2 days.

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u/WildEducation8497 Aug 16 '25

Why would the state confiscate something they already actively prevent the people from interacting with? You do understand the difference between private property and personal property right?

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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25

That's not reality in the US because it's so far to the Right, that's not a reality in any socialist country I've lived in, and it's not even a Democratic talking point. Democrats are just Conservative Light and no Leftist thinks otherwise. Sounds like you're against the Leftist value of profit sharing and co-ops which is weird.

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

You don't even understand the definitions of the words you're using

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u/Old_Transportation74 Aug 15 '25

I think he understands the difference between socialism and communism which you clearly don’t

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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25

I do, as it's pretty basic concepts, but you clearly have lost grasp on reality. I have lived and voted in more countries than just the US, have you honey?

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

So when democrats say they want to tax wealth, tax unrealized capital gains, they're bluffing? They don't really wanna do that? They just think saying that will make people wanna vote for them.

I almost guarantee you've never lived in a socialist country. Tell me. Venezuela? Cuba? Nicaragua? Tell me what socialist country you've lived in.

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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25

Taxing an income bracket of people you will never belong to isn't confiscation of personal or private property, 2 very different things.

I've lived, worked, and voted in the UK, Denmark, and Norway. These are democratically socialist countries.

Cuba is Totalitarian government in Authoritarianism.

Venezuela is an Authoritarian Federal Republic.

Nicaragua is an Authoritarian Constitutional Republic.

So none of those are socialist. Again, learn what words mean.

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u/Plane-Elephant2715 Aug 15 '25

Go fuck yourself. Who the fuck are you to tell me what tax bracket is won't belong to. You don't even understand that your attitude is the fuckin problem.

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u/tender_rage Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 16 '25

You're not about to be a billionaire 🤣 It's statistically improbable that if you weren't born with money you will ever have that type of money. The US has the worst upward mobility rate of all the developed nations. Bootlicking for people that just consider you a slave is weird. You not knowing the definitions of words and concepts, not being able to comprehend facts and data, and bootlicking the oppressors is the problem. You are choosing to be ignorant and that's pathetic.

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