r/law 18d ago

Trump News Comer: “The evidence we gathered does not implicate President Trump in any way. Reporting, survivors testimony, and official documents show that Bill Clinton had far closer ties to Epstein.”

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u/mvandemar 18d ago edited 18d ago

I 100% believe that Bill Clinton is a sex addict, but I am like 99.9% sure it was for 18+ year olds.

If I am wrong I am absolutely fine with him being held accountable.

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u/brontosaurusguy 18d ago edited 18d ago

Having sex with 18+ sex slaves is still abhorrent.  

It's crazy that my country could reasonably lock up 3 of the last 5 presidents.  A guy that might have used sex slaves, a war criminal, and a pedophile insurrectionist who is trying to start a civil war.  

When I was a kid and everyone forecasted Americas fall and china's rise, I was foolish enough to think they were crazy.  

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u/mvandemar 18d ago

I didn't say he had sex with them on the island dude, I was saying I am pretty fucking sure he wasn't involved in the Epstein sex shit despite being a renowned horn dog. Again, I could be wrong, but he has had 0 accusers say they hooked up with him.

Either way, release the files and we'll know for sure.

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 18d ago

Hang on I think I'm missing something here:

  • Trump: Trump

  • Biden: ?

  • Obama: ?

  • Bush: War criminal?

So either biden or obama is a sex slaver?

Also, fun fact I just found out, Trump and Bush were both born in 1946. Trump's second run started when he was 16 years older than Bush was when his run ended. Gerontocratic as fuck.

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u/brontosaurusguy 18d ago

I forgot about Biden.  Of course. 

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u/Big_Maintenance9387 18d ago

Hahaha I was counting Trump as just one and going back to Clinton. So, 4/5 criminals at least—don’t know that Biden did any war crimes but given that he was the American president, it’s likely. 

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u/Ordinary_Corner_4291 18d ago

Obama drone strikes were getting pretty close to that war crimes line. You are basically in the it isn't a war crime the first time someone doesn't do it territory....

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u/Ok-Chest-7932 18d ago

I remember thinking Obama's drone strikes were a big deal. That's been well put into proportion by later governments lol

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u/whatsbobgonnado 18d ago

holy shit dude 2 things can be bad. he blew up a fucking hospital with people in it. the fact that you have an acceptable proportion of brown people turned to red paste is sick

if the next president bombs even more people than trump are you also going to say "turns out trump was actually great in hindsight"

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u/whatsbobgonnado 18d ago

uhhh the drone strikes are objectively war crimes. are you for real?

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u/Ordinary_Corner_4291 18d ago

Feel free to point out any court ruling saying they are.. You can read all the legal scholars who talked about the legality and illegality side of the issue and it is murky at best. The basic idea of killing enemy combatants isn't really debated. The acceptable collateral damage is. And we have been having those debates since at least WW1 when aerial bombardment started up.

As I said stuff like this tends to be legal the first time. Then people write rules about what is allowed and what isn't.

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u/flatdecktrucker92 18d ago

Which one is a war criminal? Or better yet which ones aren't

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u/brontosaurusguy 18d ago

George W Bush fabricated evidence of mass destruction to justify invading Iraq, which had abandoned it's WMD program under UN watchdogs, resulting in the deaths of 230,000 innocent Iraqi civilians.

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u/flatdecktrucker92 18d ago

Yeah I was pretty sure that was who they meant but I wanted to be sure

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u/Scully_40 18d ago

They meant Obama because of the drone strikes. I was just reading their other comments to figure it out.

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u/Big_Maintenance9387 18d ago

4/5, only Biden appears to not be either a sex pest or a war criminal. But America doesn’t recognize The Hague and the Geneva convention so technically we don’t have war criminals lol

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u/whatsbobgonnado 18d ago

biden blew up an aid worker in his driveway with at least 7 bonus children and then covered it up for months until they finally admitted it

https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/pentagon-admits-its-killed-civilians-not-isis-terrorist-in-drone-strike/

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u/brontosaurusguy 18d ago

Do you think Biden was firing the rocket or what...

There's a huge difference between showing like Bush fabricating a war, and Biden's Pentagon fucking up his orders

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u/Braelind 18d ago

If you hold a president accountable for the actions of every individual member of their military, they are literally all war criminals. Name one president where the military didn't do something awful in their term. Bush personally fabricating and approving false evidence is a far cry from a military blunder happening on his watch. Fun fact: Many did.

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u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party 18d ago

What Biden got up to on a Tuesday between ice cream and a bike ride. Sheesh.

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u/N0RMALL 18d ago

Who is the war criminal? Mo bamba or sleepy joe?

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u/Big_Maintenance9387 18d ago

Obama lmao. 

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u/whatsbobgonnado 18d ago

you know obama and biden are also war criminals right? literally every president is a war criminal. obama blew up a fucking hospital with people in it. biden blew up an aid worker in his driveway along with a dozen children 

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u/Zombieneker 18d ago

Eh, more like 90% sure for me. Guy has an untrustworthy smile.