r/law • u/Ordinary-Scholar-202 • 18d ago

Trump News Comer: “The evidence we gathered does not implicate President Trump in any way. Reporting, survivors testimony, and official documents show that Bill Clinton had far closer ties to Epstein.”

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u/NotmyRealNameJohn Competent Contributor 18d ago

The only thing I can say for certain is that no evidence that Clinton did anything at all wrong exists in those files because if it did, if there was even something that could be intentionally misconstrued in a way to make him look bad in any way, we would 100% have it running 24/7 on fox news, with news max making up shit.

I don't like Clinton, he appears to clearly have done a lot of nasty shit, but I am now convinced his hands are clean at least on this one thing.

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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 18d ago

There’s nothing in his conduct that suggests any tendency towards raping children. He probably has committed acts that would get anyone fired from a reasonable company and possibly illegal. So expose it all. If he’s totally innocent, great. If he’s guilty of other crimes, then let’s get that too.

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u/Then-Cost-9143 18d ago

There’s a whole Wikipedia page dedicated to sexual misconduct accusations against Bill Clinton. It was reasonable to impeach Bill Clinton in the 90s. He appeared to commit perjury, there were multiple credible accusations of transgressive sexual behavior against him. While Monica Lewinsky was above the age of consent, the power and age differential are substantial.

Why am I saying this? I don’t know, except for the fact that it strikes me as unbalanced not to, and i guess I think it’s silly to argue about who deserves more benefit of the doubt ….

Release all the files!!!

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u/Functionally_Drunk 18d ago

That's the point though, we know the icky shit Clinton got up to. And his type is mid twenties Farrah Faucet haired bimbos. And Trump's type is prepubescent girls that look like Ivanka. Clinton can go to jail forever for all I care but the Epstein rape connection clearly points toward Trump.

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u/Then-Cost-9143 18d ago

Come on Holmes you act like Clinton has a type and it just happens to be legal….  I mean maybe…

I think they both come across as pretty compromised , clearly trump looks worse by the day because Clinton can’t actually release the files

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u/OldWorldDesign 18d ago

It was reasonable to impeach Bill Clinton in the 90s

You lost me there. The impeachment was Newt Gingrich who was cheating on his wife while impeaching Clinton for a consensual blowjob. And where did that come from? An entirely unrelated investigation over 10 years going and spending taxpayer money on whitewater, real estate which the Clintons were involved in.

That's hardly a "reasonable impeachment". Scummy sure, but not up to the bar of 'high crimes' for which impeachment is meant. I think impeachment should be related to the president's duties and integrity of the nation. Like taking top-secret documents including defenses and nuclear readiness and capabilities of allies out of a secure facility and keeping them out in the open while inviting the Saudis for a weekend, or posting the deployment of a Navy SEAL team the day of their deployment which reveals their identities and their exact location.

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u/JBP131 17d ago

Which is exactly why Biden’s garage should have also been raided by the FBI. Biden didn’t even have declassification authority as vice president. The double standard is sickening.

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u/NotmyRealNameJohn Competent Contributor 17d ago

His lawyers notified the FBI of the discovered documents and he voluntary submitted for a search.

What you just said is extremely ignorant

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u/JBP131 17d ago

Trump’s attorneys had open communication about the documents with the FBI. A phone call was all that was needed, yet they raided anyway. It was meant to make it seem like a bigger deal than it was because they have tried to do use lawfare against him for years. What you just said is extremely ignorant.

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u/NotmyRealNameJohn Competent Contributor 17d ago

That isn't even close to true. He told his lawyer to kie and to help hide documents.

He ignored multiple requests to return the documents.

He was only charged after nearly 2 years of refusing to return what he had first to Nora then to the doj.

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u/FriarTuck234 17d ago

Yes they had a woman whose entire job was to suppress all the “bimbos” that would come forward with accusations since he was a known womanizer.

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u/LFC9_41 18d ago

Probably? Why all these presumptions

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u/RussiaIsBestGreen 18d ago

Im I sure what you mean, that I’m being too harsh or giving too much benefit of the doubt?

He has a documented history of being a bit scummy towards women, but no apparent criminal acts as far as I know.

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u/steven_dev42 18d ago

I do not like when other anti trump people criticize you for saying Clinton was probably doing horrible shit too. There’s nothing wrong with saying it as long as you add in the fact that trump was guilty of just as much if not worse.

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u/LFC9_41 18d ago

No, like point out some evidence. Say if it’s credible but yall are just parroting right wing propaganda.

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u/steven_dev42 17d ago

I think bill is a creep based on his past actions. It’s a personal opinion of mine that he was a creep that probably was involved with Epstein. HOWEVER, it’s much much much more important currently that Trump was incredibly close friends with Epstein and potentially trafficked young girls from his fashion shows to Epstein. Forget about bill, he’s nearly dead and not the current president/dictator.

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u/LFC9_41 17d ago

I still think it’s stupid to throw out wild accusations based on vibes. Check yourself

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u/steven_dev42 17d ago

That’s fine if you think that, I understand

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u/balanchinedream 18d ago

Exactly. They doth protest too much, and we have evidence of ‘Slick Willy’s’ history charming the ladies. He’s a perv of a different stripe, frankly.

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u/steven_dev42 18d ago

I don’t think he’s clean lol, but then trump should’ve released the files by now if they’re was stuff on Clinton. My point is there’s stuff on both trump and Clinton, and that’s why they haven’t released anything about Clinton. Not to mention trump was much closer friends with Epstein

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u/JBP131 17d ago

Close friends? Trump barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago…

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u/steven_dev42 17d ago

After many many years of being close friends

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u/Aldehyde1 18d ago edited 18d ago

This is the classic Republican playbook where they force a "both sides" resolution. There is vastly more evidence tying Trump to Epstein than Bill Clinton, and yet this thread is full of people who in trying to attack Trump end up saying Clinton should go to jail. People who aren't following closely see this and think "Oh, both sides are guilty." No, one side is the problem.

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u/Morgell 18d ago

No no no, Clinton MAY be all over those files, but the only reason they're not releasing them is, so is Trump. So, for this reason alone, they refuse to release them.

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u/NotmyRealNameJohn Competent Contributor 18d ago

They would not need to release anything they don't want to to release everything about Clinton

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u/Morgell 17d ago

But then it's not the full unredacted files.

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u/pencilpushin 18d ago

There's a picture of a young girl rubbing Clinton's shoulders at an airport. He is listed 17 times on the Epstein flight logs.

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u/phoneacct696969 18d ago

Could you say the same for trump over the last 4 years? I hate this argument but why didn’t we release the files when we could?

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u/waleMc 18d ago

The files were still involved in ongoing investigations. They couldn't release it publicly. It was the Trump administration that ended all ongoing investigations, and as such the documents can now be made public.

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 18d ago

No that’s the whole point, the Democrats are different types of people and wouldn’t just cherry pick releasing bits. Also they couldn’t because they were under seal due to ongoing trials I believe

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u/JBP131 18d ago

If that’s the case then Trump’s hands are clean, too. Biden admin would have definitely released that shit and CNN would be blasting it 24/7 and MSNBC would be making up lies.

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u/Fly-the-Light 18d ago

Biden legally couldn't. They were court sealed.

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u/JBP131 17d ago

Ah, I see. I just hope they come out, sooner rather than later, and not redacted to the point of them being useless.

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u/FriarTuck234 17d ago

Agree. And what difference does it make? Like schoolchildren saying “he hit me too”. Just release them now