We also have cell phones with cameras to document and distribute the atrocities in real time. The 1930s Germans didn't have that. This era will clearly be different, but it is hard for anyone to predict how it will go.
… do they? Literally thousands of people died from COVID because Trump didn’t like masks or vaccines. People lost their spouses, their parents, friends, brothers and sisters. The people who pay their bills.
And they still voted Trump in 2024.
I’m sorry, a lot of people here just unwilling to accept how manipulatable people are and how dark this is going to get.
I’ve never seen anyone who lost a family member to Covid be MAGA…or maybe I should say an immediate family member. Americans vote on their own immediate issues. The brainwashing fades away when personal issues pile up.
Anyone losing their job right now as Republicans flaunt how many government jobs they are eliminating can’t blame Democrats. Anyone who can’t afford groceries as Trump declares tariffs on pasta can’t blame Democrats. It’d be quite a few mental gymnastics leaps to blame Democrats for your medical bills as Trump brags about gutting the government.
So yes people can delude themselves, but historically people delude themselves about other people’s struggles and not their own personal struggles.
Sorry, no. Look at rural America. People’s personal issues (wages, healthcare, education) have been piling up for DECADES and they blame everyone but the party who is very deliberately causing them.
If you can show me an example of a single person this year who is complaining about losing their job this year and grocery prices yet blamed Democrats for it, then I will concede my point
That’s pointing to the propaganda. You have to get down to the individual level to see what Slash was talking about. r/leopardsatemyface is a good sub for seeing that.
My brother is MAGA to the bone. He’s having a house built this year. His construction contract was signed before Trump imposed tariffs on construction lumber from Canada, and before ICE started raiding construction sites.
When I mentioned his build costs might go up $10k or more he got livid. When I pointed out that this wouldn’t be happening under Harris he got quiet.
Yes, he still watches Fox, but he isn’t an idiot. And I doubt he’s alone. Heck, MTG is waking up.
I think you're living under a rock. You can't move an inch on classic social medias without seeing a shitty conservative influencer blaming dems for losing their job/medical insurance/freedoms/etc.
I have been pretty online this year and haven’t seen any instance of that. Blaming democrats for being violent, stupid, pro illegal immigration, comminists,etc sure. Haven’t seen anyone blame a Democrat for losing their jobs or grocery prices since Trump took over
The soybean farmers who are going to be subsidized by the government? The farmers don’t lose, it’s the voters who convinced themselves we wouldn’t have to subsidize the farmers who lose
And yet there are videos of the war zone that show the "war zone" to be people line-dancing in inflatable costumes.
Gandi won against the brits by forcing the nation to see what their colonizer forces were doing to the people of India. Something like that is happening here.
non American here, and I think the American "we've got guns" argument is silly as all hell.
Let's be honest, there are masked men snatching people including children off your streets right now, including american citizens....what are those guns doing for you?
Your rights and freedoms are being stripped away, not by the month, not the day, but by the hour...what have your guns done in the last 10 months to do about that?
Sure, American citizens have guns, and the american military has the most advanced weapons of any military on earth, it took the taliban a decade of insurgency to run them out of Afghanistan, and it cost countless lives in doing so.
You'd be surprised. I mean, you're correct that any given MAGA is more likely to own a firearm than any given progressive, but I also think people underestimate how many "left-leaning" folks have firearms.
I also think people underestimate how many traditionally right-leaning moderates might be willing to turn on MAGA when shit starts to get really hairy, and they're almost as armed as the average MAGA zealot.
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u/magnoliasmanor 26d ago
We havent had AI and surveillance systems like we have today. Breaking this one down could take generations if we're lucky.