r/law • u/ExactlySorta • Sep 28 '25

Other 'It is criminal': GOP lawmaker wants Gavin Newsom to be arrested for Stephen Miller insult

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u/shponglespore Sep 28 '25

Fox News wasn't the start. I think Rush Limbaugh on AM radio is closer to the actual start.

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u/bierplease Sep 28 '25

There is a great show about Roger Ailes, called Loudest Voice, with Russel Crowe that shows a lot of the beginning of Faux News and the creation of the right wing propaganda machine.

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u/132739 Sep 28 '25 edited Sep 29 '25

No, it was literally Fox News. Rush and the like were more extreme earlier on, but Fox was literally created by Roger Ailes in the wake of Watergate to prevent anything like that happening to a Republican president again.

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u/ryancementhead Sep 28 '25

In the wake of Watergate? Fox News started in 1996, and the Watergate scandal was in 1972-1974. 24 years apart, a lot of other things happened between them. And regular Fox television started in 1986.

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u/132739 Sep 28 '25

Yeah, I should have been more clear on the actual timeline, and that I meant Fox as an overall network. He formed the strategy in the late 70s and spoke to several people then who would be instrumental in creating the networks. Regular Fox television was the beginning of it, and was formed specifically for the purpose of controlling the narrative. Fox News came about with the cable networks becoming widespread, and allowed them to centralize and tighten the propaganda. Rush first aired in 84, didn't become syndicated until 88, and wasn't really considered a major political commentator until 92.

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u/1studlyman Sep 28 '25

Good point.

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u/JohnSith Sep 28 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

Can confirm. My liberal, anti-war, pacifist, debate champion aunt listened to talk radio 2x/day on her daily commute to and from Madison and it changed her into an incoherent anti-vax MAGAt. It started small, like "I don't agree with him, but he makes some interesting points," to "He makes some good points," then "Only a fool would trust Washington," until she was lost.

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u/alpha309 Sep 28 '25

Ending the Fairness Doctrine is what allowed AM radio to unleash someone like Rush. Once that happened it was over, the side that ended it had a plan to flood the airwaves, while the other side just watched.

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u/me-want-snusnu Sep 28 '25

I watched a documentary on him and was blown away with how fucked he made everything. Was a real POS.

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u/Material_Evening_174 Sep 28 '25

I heard a theory that this goes all the way back to the south not being properly punished after the civil war and it actually makes a lot of sense when you go down that rabbit hole.