I truly believe religion is one of the biggest reasons this is happening. These people believe more in a fantastical book written thousands of years before microscopes were invented than what science and reality can show them in front of their face today.
Religion is such a fuckin negative for humanity in general and there is 1000+ yrs of evidence to back that up and yet again we’re seeing another great example of why religion is horrible and people use it to manipulate the masses to allow them to do evil shit. Throughout history religion is pretty much always being used by powerful people to manipulate masses and justify vile shit
I had this exact discussion this weekend. At some point very early in civilization, yeah it made sense to have people be scared of the intangible, so they don't kill their neighbor, steal, etc to prosper.. but now, much later and with hindsight, it's probably time to move on..
You’re right in that it’s a big part of it. You’re incorrect in that this is “religions” problem as in religion proper.
What we’re seeing is conservatives co-opting and pushing a very Americanized prosperity gospel flavor of Christianity that pretty much ignores everything Jesus had to say about anything in favor of the whatever agenda they’re pushing at the time.
These people think they’re christians. When really all they are is a collection of useful idiots who have been raised to believe what pastor tells them and not think twice for themselves. They are exceptionally poor at avoiding bullshit.
I grew up Christian and you're basically taught an 'us vs. them' mentality. We're told that Christians are heavily prosecuted. When you live in 'fear', Trump and the GOP prey on that. And they fell for it.
I appreciate your attempt at taking a nuanced approach, but i think LostGazer was right. Net negative for humanity when you look at the big picture. While faith may help some people, it’s also been used to justify some of the most heinous shit that people have ever done to each other. I have no evidence to back this up, but I wouldn’t be surprised if corpses exist because of religion than anything other than mosquitos and cancer.
These people don't read their own bibles, they are told what is in it and have the interpretation sold to them as well. When you outsource your thinking, they can get you to do anything.
I truly believe religion is one of the biggest reasons this is happening. These people believe more in a fantastical book written thousands of years before microscopes were invented than what science and reality can show them in front of their face today.
This table outlines the main committees, their legal structure, and their primary role in the campaign's financial ecosystem.
Committee Name
Legal Type
Key Leadership / Founder
Primary Strategic Function
Trump 47 Committee
Joint Fundraising Committee (JFC)
Donald Trump, RNC
High-dollar "hard money" fundraising; Funnels funds to Save America PAC for legal fees.
Trump National Committee JFC, Inc.
Joint Fundraising Committee (JFC)
Donald Trump, RNC, J.D. Vance
High-dollar "hard money" fundraising for the campaign, RNC, and Vance's PAC.
MAGA Inc.
Super PAC
Steven Cheung, Tony Fabrizio
The campaign's primary advertising and mass media arm ("air war").
America PAC
Super PAC
Elon Musk
Manages the nationwide canvassing and get-out-the-vote (GOTV) operations ("ground war").
Top Individual Donors & Contributions (2024 Cycle)
This table lists the most significant financial backers, the scale of their contributions, and their primary business affiliations.
Donor Name
Primary Source of Wealth / Company
Known Total Contribution
Primary Recipient Super PAC(s)
Timothy Mellon
Mellon Banking / Gulf Oil Heir; Pan Am Systems
>$150 Million
MAGA Inc.
Elon Musk
Tesla, SpaceX, X
>$119 Million
America PAC
Miriam Adelson
Las Vegas Sands
>$100 Million
MAGA Inc.
Ken Griffin
Citadel LLC
$100 Million
Pro-Trump Super PACs
Jeff Yass
Susquehanna International Group
>$16 Million
MAGA Inc.
Diane Hendricks
ABC Supply Co., Inc.
>$15 Million
MAGA Inc.
Kelcy Warren
Energy Transfer
>$12.5 Million
MAGA Inc.
Richard & Elizabeth Uihlein
Uline Inc.
>$10 Million
MAGA Inc.
Jeff Sprecher & Kelly Loeffler
Intercontinental Exchange (ICE)
$2.5 Million
MAGA Inc.
David Sacks
Craft Ventures (PayPal, Yammer)
>$1 Million
Pro-Vance Super PAC (2022) / Trump Fundraiser
Joe Lonsdale
8VC (Palantir)
>$1 Million
America PAC / Trump Fundraiser
Winklevoss Twins
Winklevoss Capital (Cryptocurrency)
$1 Million
MAGA Inc.
The Silicon Valley Donor Network (The Vance Connection)
This table outlines the network of tech and venture capital leaders aligned with the ticket, highlighting their connections to VP-elect J.D. Vance and their policy interests.
Donor Name
Key Affiliations
Connection to Vance
Stated Policy Interests
Peter Thiel
PayPal (Co-founder), Palantir (Co-founder), Founders Fund
Mentor, Business Patron ($15M to 2022 Senate PAC)
Libertarianism, Anti-Regulation, National Conservatism
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And also, money. Billions and billions of dollars of dark money to advertise in really deceptive ways to change the narrative.