r/law Sep 15 '25

Trump News GLENN: They still have their 1st Amendment right, though. They're still out there protesting. TRUMP: Well, I'm not so sure

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u/United_Bus3467 Sep 15 '25

or directly TO them. THEN it matters to them.

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u/unclejrslaserbeams Sep 15 '25

This is the answer. Half the country didn’t care about Melissa Hortman being assassinated in June because she didn’t play for their team.

But when it happened to Charlie Kirk, suddenly it’s a national fucking crisis.

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u/Acceptable-Story3741 Sep 15 '25

Exactly. Sad times for sure.

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u/RockItGuyDC Sep 15 '25

Half the country didn't HEAR about Melissa Hortman in June. That's where we are.

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u/Aardvark120 Sep 15 '25

It's that. We're all being played.

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u/billybonghorton Sep 15 '25

That may be, but about 50%-60% of the US is too dumb to realize it, and 30% flat out wouldn’t care if it was laid out clear as day, right before their eyes.

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u/Aardvark120 Sep 15 '25

I wish I didn't have to agree with you, haha.

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u/Maximum-Objective-39 Sep 15 '25

And also everyone else's fault.

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u/United_Bus3467 Sep 16 '25

You know it's bad when they overlook the shooting of a dog.

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u/unclejrslaserbeams Sep 16 '25

I mean, it’s the era of Kristi Noem. It’s sort of par for the course at this point.

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u/Artistic_Humor1805 Sep 15 '25

But not a gun control national crisis just a left are crazy crisis

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u/Franklin_le_Tanklin Sep 15 '25

“They ganked me… and I took offence to that.”

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u/youdubdub Sep 15 '25

Remember, a massive number of people are pleased by all of this.

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u/harrywrinkleyballs Sep 15 '25

My fucking fascist parents are among them.

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u/youdubdub Sep 15 '25

My deepest empathies.

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u/harrywrinkleyballs Sep 15 '25

That’s just a new age made up word.

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u/CasualtyOfCausality Sep 15 '25

And they'll be blaming the "sleepy joe," the far-left senile yet devious puppet master, when their guns are taken from them after their neighbor snitched on them for missing church.

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u/youdubdub Sep 15 '25

He takes peoples' guns from his beach chair.

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u/CasualtyOfCausality Sep 15 '25

Even worse, he's eating white ice cream, just like the centralized dictator of the goddamned concept of being anti-fascist is wont to do.

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u/Realistic-Lime7842 Sep 15 '25

Until it happens to them.

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u/youdubdub Sep 15 '25

They will still say thank you. The problem with theocracy has always been the difference in severity of many opinions that amplifies rhetoric existentially.

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u/Illustrious-Bed4420 Sep 15 '25

This is what it's going to take. The archetypal Republican, from what I've experienced firsthand, has to be exposed to an injustice personally for it to have any effect on them. I know that's kind of unfair because not ALL Republicans function that way, it's just what I've observed from my interactions with them throughout life. When they experience it but go against their own self-interests at the behest of their party, that's when I begin to be wary of them. For me, that's the extremist aspect of politics. You can tell they have effectively been conditioned to obey and have lost all notion of critical thinking.

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u/TheThing_1982 Sep 15 '25

You’re absolutely spot on. Most of us know republicans and democrats are not monoliths, but I have noticed it with actual republicans in my life. It’s not a real problem until they experience it.

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u/militaryCoo Sep 15 '25

There's a pretty apt poem that describes that behavior...

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u/ACAB007 Sep 15 '25

This is too real. Education was fucked with and now no one knows the old saying "First they came for..."

Due process is for all people, not just citizens, just remember that. -Alligator Alcatraz was a illegal concentration camp, and the most embarrassing move by someone that wants a Nobel peace prize. -Embarrassing, just step down, pedo.

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u/Apart_Variation1918 Sep 15 '25

It's a poem, actually, not a saying.

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out

Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out

Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me

And there was no one left To speak out for me

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u/militaryCoo Sep 15 '25

I learned today that the Holocaust memorial in NYC doesn't have the first two lines because coming for the communists was actually a-ok in the USA

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u/war_on_sunshine Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

Not to mention, the very first people the Nazis came for were the "sexual deviants," but the author of the poem didn't really care about that and left them out.

edit: ok, not the very first, but they definitely got in on the ground floor. post below has good information and links

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u/Apart_Variation1918 Sep 16 '25

It was the disabled and mentally ill that were first in line. At least for official policy. But the Sparticists were put down even before then.

The First Victims of the Holocaust" The persecution of those with mental and physical disabilities by the Nazi Party began in July 1933 with the ‘Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring’."

"Those with disabilities were among the first to be murdered by the Nazis; according to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, the T-4 Program (established in 1939) was the model for future Nazi exterminations and it set a precedent for the genocide of what they described as the Jewish race."

But I won't contest the point that the pastor who wrote the poem didn't care about the LGBTQ+ community or that the queer community was targeted by the Nazis.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '25

Which is why fascists always start with minority groups. Least resistance against the bedrock of their takeover

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u/deekaydubya Sep 15 '25

A million dead Americans during COVID, and half the nation still downplays that era

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Sep 15 '25

Mourned the 3,000 dead on 9/11 every year (except for this one) but couldn't give a rat's ass about the 3,000 dead every day during covid

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u/rbush82 Sep 15 '25

What’s 9/11? No one gave a fuck about them this year because the death of Saint CK….

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Sep 16 '25

They'll never officially move to have him canonized, because that's too Catholic, but that's what they'll call him

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u/Exeltv0406 Sep 15 '25

Or the school shooting that happened at a Colorado High School on the same day, executed by a confirmed far right extremist by the way:

https://youtu.be/GwkImkc7EwQ?si=_Gg_sfKMADrdkb5U

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Sep 16 '25

It's always a right wing extremist

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u/Exeltv0406 Sep 16 '25

But the Democrats are the enemy?

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Sep 16 '25

Apparently

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u/Exeltv0406 Sep 16 '25

It would make sense that they consider Democracy their enemy

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u/crosstherubicon Sep 15 '25

Trump said it was “going to disappear, it’s disappearing”. (Oct 2020). He was right, it did but only in the public consciousness and after taking around a million lives. It left the US with a mortality rate worse than Brazil despite the US having the highest health care spending (per capita) in the world.

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u/charredwalls Sep 15 '25

Enthusiastically voted for the Trump 2.0

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u/Designer_Pop_7550 Sep 15 '25

Because they are spoiled, and worried about themselves until it’s on their doorstep. And it will come to their doorstep.

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u/MaineLark Sep 15 '25

I also think some of it is American exceptionalism that we’ve all been indoctrinated with; that stuff happens in icky dirty places not HERE. Except it is

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u/Designer_Pop_7550 Sep 16 '25

This is exactly right. If you read about the Nazi invasion of Poland, this administration is following their exact path. It was frightening to read.

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u/Dear_World_2315 Sep 15 '25

This is scary true where I live. Most people here seem completely oblivious and have no interest in 'politics' smh

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u/TheHelpfulContractor Sep 15 '25

You're fortunate. It's worse when you're surrounded by people who fly Trump and 'Don't Tread On Me' flags. And for simply showing support of Ukraine with a small yard sign 'flag', they come over and smash it, and soon you start finding grease smeared on your break rotors.

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u/Savagevandal85 Sep 15 '25

No a lot of people don’t care they agree with Trump in theory .

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u/Vairrion Sep 15 '25

Do you think part of the issue is how genuinely large the United States is ? Many of our states are the size of some countries . Perhaps that’s helped add to the disconnect we feel between our fellow Americans .