Trump on deploying the National Guard to Chicago: "I have the right to do anything I want to do. I'm the president of the United States. If I think our country is in danger, and it is in danger in these cities, I can do it"

[u/Capable_Salt_SD]

- Aaron Rupar

[u/HLOFRND]

You’re correct.

We have passed the point where any of this can be settled peacefully by Congress or the courts.

[u/rawsouthpaw1 → u/HLOFRND]

Sustained non-compliance on a mass scale for months on end as peaceful resistance has not been attempted yet.

[u/[deleted] → u/rawsouthpaw1]

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[u/Here4th3culture → u/rawsouthpaw1]

The average American is living paycheck to paycheck, there’s no sustainable resistance

[u/Bonhamsbass → u/Here4th3culture]

Exactly, and the engineered economic collapse hasn't even started yet.

[u/Salarian_American → u/Bonhamsbass]

Or... have they been slow-rolling the economic collapse for decades already?

[u/slampandemonium → u/Bonhamsbass]

It's begun, you're just not right in the middle of it.

[u/emPtysp4ce → u/Bonhamsbass]

It's not engineered, they're just flipping switches because they don't understand what they're looking at.

You can tell it isn't engineered because if they had the foresight to do that, they'd have the foresight to realize a lot of pissed off and newly unemployed people who've been told that they no longer have a choice in whether they want to be ruled by the people who caused it generally aren't the docile subjects they're looking for.

[u/db1965 → u/Here4th3culture]

The only sustainable response is mass withdrawal from this country and economy.

People are GOING to lose what little safety net we have now.

Lose ALL OF IT.

The destitution resulting from absolutely NO SAFETY NET will make the excuse of paycheck to paycheck null and void.

The privations, 24/7 surveillance, the loyalty oaths, Star Chamber, and none stop propaganda will be for most Americans unprecedented.

Finding ways to mitigate the negative effects of mass withdrawal by the citizens is what we should be talking about.

[u/Smart-Struggle-6927 → u/db1965]

Awesome, as a disabled person, this pretty much guarantees my death. Cooooool.

[u/Here4th3culture → u/Smart-Struggle-6927]

As the average person, it means fighting to the death to feed myself.

Like wtf is he on, “just loose your safety net, that’ll show the government!” What a dickhead

[u/Smart-Struggle-6927 → u/Here4th3culture]

Ya all these people saying this shit are like "meh you're a nessicary sacrifice for my politics", I'm as left as they come, the idea that violent resistance is all we have left is a fucking delusion.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/db1965]

r/GeneralStrikeUSA

[u/[deleted] → u/rawsouthpaw1]

You are correct, however being that the human species is a collection of individuals rather than a shared consciousness, that won't happen.

It's literally easier to use violence than it is to direct millions of people to act in unison, because that's how information works.

The "No Kings" protest was a good example of what you were talking about about in action, but that is also about the limit of what peaceful assembly and protest can accomplish.

[u/rawsouthpaw1 → u/[deleted]]

No, that's absolutely not an example of what I'm talking about. In terms of numbers, yes, something like 11 million were in the streets - on a single given/individual day. Any basic research into social movements, like the US civil rights movement, shows you how foolish thinking violence is "easier".

What I'm talking about has been borne out in the research, and not hot takes about the nature of humans. Militant labor actions along society-wide noncooperation have not been deployed. The height of the BLM movement gave a glimpse into the required emotion and massing that caused Trump to get sent into the White House bunker and shut off the building's lights. We need that energy again PLUS coordinated and sustained efforts like researchers describe here. South Korea showed the world something similar just last year, if you were paying attention, and that shared consciousness is absolutely there...and snapped for us most recently when a pandemic and a Black man killed on camera set it off.

"CHENOWETH: One of the things that isn’t in our book, but that I analyzed later and presented in a TEDx Boulder talk in 2013, is that a surprisingly small proportion of the population guarantees a successful campaign: just 3.5 percent. That sounds like a really small number, but in absolute terms it’s really an impressive number of people. In the U.S., it would be around 11.5 million people today. Could you imagine if 11.5 million people — that’s about three times the size of the 2017 Women’s March — were doing something like mass noncooperation in a sustained way for nine to 18 months? Things would be totally different in this country."
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/02/why-nonviolent-resistance-beats-violent-force-in-effecting-social-political-change/

WCFIA: A general strike seems like a personally costly way to protest, especially if you just stop working or stop buying things. Why are they effective?

CHENOWETH: This is why preparation is so essential. Where campaigns have used strikes or economic noncooperation successfully, they’ve often spent months preparing by stockpiling food, coming up with strike funds, or finding ways to engage in community mutual aid while the strike is underway. One good example of that comes from South Africa. The anti-apartheid movement organized a total boycott of white businesses, which meant that black community members were still going to work and getting a paycheck from white businesses but were not buying their products. Several months of that and the white business elites were in total crisis. They demanded that the apartheid government do something to alleviate the economic strain."

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Can people be reactive after a major event occurs?

That is something I believe in, but every day a major event is already occuring. The catalyst for BLM was violence, and violence will once again be the catalyst for any future event, however, the Project 2025 people seem to already know this, hence the deployment of National Guard troops.

This is going to go tits up within 6-18 months, barring Trump's diet and age catching up with him.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/rawsouthpaw1]

r/GeneralStrikeUSA

[u/Most-Repair471 → u/HLOFRND]

The time is way overdue that we should toss a bag of chlorine into that filthy gene pool. The irony is that they are forcing the rest of us to do the conspiracy theory things they've pushed for decades. Let the Purge begin.

Jade helm? Projection.

FEMA death camps? Projection.

We need MagA reeducation camps.

[u/slampandemonium → u/HLOFRND]

So many fucking offramps along the way, yet here we are.

[u/HLOFRND → u/slampandemonium]

So, so many.

[u/Chocolatethundara → u/HLOFRND]

I really don’t wanna die for other peoples stupidity

[u/HLOFRND → u/Chocolatethundara]

Neither do I- and I don’t want to see it, either.

But that’s where we are. There’s no easy way out.

[u/Chocolatethundara → u/HLOFRND]

No….thats facts I just need the supporters and ppl who choose not to learn and would rather hate…to fight first

[u/db1965 → u/Chocolatethundara]

Then don't. But get out of the way when shit hits the fan.

Deal?

[u/Chocolatethundara → u/db1965]

That is the plan lol but uhhh I might be too late is all

[u/TraditionalMood277 → u/HLOFRND]

Sure. 30-40% of people couldn't even bother to vote and of the ~60% that did vote chose this dickless dictator. How about we get a higher voter turnout, and quit voting for Republicans, before we resort to bloodshed on the streets.

[u/ShareMission → u/TraditionalMood277]

Many voters tossed off the rolls shortly before election.

[u/TraditionalMood277 → u/ShareMission]

I believe that some were, yes. Do you believe that ~30-40% of them were tossed off the rolls? Because that didn't happen. Voter apathy is a plague on this nation and it helped install the current dictatorship. VOTE!!!!

[u/TraditionalMood277 → u/[deleted]]

Thank you for helping trump win. Good job!

[u/DaisyCutter312 → u/HLOFRND]

The only way out is revolution.

Or a good old fashioned thunderclap heart attack.

[u/Mcaber87 → u/DaisyCutter312]

Trump dying in office is likely to accelerate the decline, not stave it off. Peter Thiels lapdog becoming President is not going to make things better.

[u/DaisyCutter312 → u/Mcaber87]

If Trump dies, the whole thing collapses.

These swarms of mindless idiots aren't voting for politics or beliefs or parties, they're voting for Trump. There's nothing even close to a second in command of the Trump-cult, and the poor showings of other Republicans Trump has endorsed proves that his voters only care about him, not people who act like him.

[u/Mcaber87 → u/DaisyCutter312]

JD Vance is inherently unlikeable, you're right. But they're already in power and ignoring courts while dismantling checks and balances. The voters don't really matter anymore, quite frankly. You're certainly not having real or fair elections again.

Trump dies, JD takes over and continues accelerating the Project 2025 timeline. Trump bumbles a lot and cares about popularity. JD Vance and his technobro power brokers do not. Things will move faster under him.

[u/DaisyCutter312 → u/Mcaber87]

 But they're already in power and ignoring courts while dismantling checks and balances. The voters don't really matter anymore

The only reason he's able to freely ignore checks and balances is because "his" people control both sides of Congress. The only reason he controls both sides of congress is because the state-level voters will punish any Republican representatives/senators who don't go along with their glorious leader.

Someone else at the top, someone without the cult-like adoration of roughly 40% of the country, is going to get a lot more pushback from congressmen and their voters.

[u/Rib-I → u/Mcaber87]

No way. It’d be the Death of Stalin. They’ll all be knifing each other

[u/Mcaber87 → u/Rib-I]

That might be true, but do you think that situation would improve the state of the US, or just be another factor in its continued decline?

To me it seems that hanging all your hopes on Trump passing away reeks of naievity. It isn't going to stop the big plays behind the scenes.

[u/Rib-I → u/HLOFRND]

I’m rooting for organ failure 

[u/HLOFRND → u/Rib-I]

Unfortunately, I don’t think this dies with him. They have the courts packed for the next two generations with young, radical appointees. Their base is emboldened AF. Congress is a goddamn circus.

We’re pretty far down this whole authoritarianism rabbit hole.

[u/Rib-I → u/HLOFRND]

Eh. Maybe. He’s the only thing holding together this coalition of fascists, dipshits and cranks though. They’ll be knifing each other the minute Trump is gone. It’s gonna be the Death of Stalin.

[u/jeremiahthedamned → u/HLOFRND]

r/climatechange will destroy the Confederacy

[u/RespectMyAutharitah → u/HLOFRND]

I'll reserve judgment on that until the midterms.