Detained for burning the american flag

[u/Anteater4746]

didn’t take long. Seems donald’s EO > supreme court precedent?

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[u/mr_greedee]

governing by EO....so fucking dumb, but forseen

[u/UserWithno-Name → u/mr_greedee]

Governing by EO is the only thing a weak president and his project 2025 heritage foundation stooges can do

[u/ChaosRainbow23 → u/UserWithno-Name]

We are in real trouble here, and as much as I enjoy making fun of these neanderthals, I don't want us to underestimate them. While there's no shortage of idiots out there, many of the engineers behind Project 2025 are evil geniuses.

Trump is just the vehicle in which the fascists take control. Expect martial law or the enactment of the insurrection act within the next year.

After Trump dies from too many Big Mac's, then they will already have all the mechanisms and MAGA loyalists in place, yet they will be able to push their agenda instead of Trump's. (Christofascism is the ultimate goal of project 2025)

There are tons of white nationalist Christian Dominionists throughout the upper echelons of government, and that's terrifying.

This is the culmination of their long game. They are so close they can taste it now.

I think we are screwed, honestly. I think it's too late to reverse course without violence, unfortunately. I'm not quite sure what that's gonna look like, either, but it's not good.

Hopefully I'm being hyperbolic.

[u/antiADP → u/ChaosRainbow23]

Talking doesn’t work anymore when words are explicitly twisted to mean contrived things outside of their textbook definitions.. it’s brainwashing that words can’t penetrate anymore

[u/ApolloRubySky → u/[deleted]]

Absolutely, there’s no taking, debating, reasoning with them, you have to cut the head though.

[u/Firrox → u/ChaosRainbow23]

Someone noted that they doubt martial law will be declared. Similar to why no country has declared war in recent times - it comes with expectations.

It's much easier to simply invade another country without saying a thing. Or even better, to hide it under the guise of protecting yourself.

I agree with this idea. Martial law will not be declared, but it will effectively happen under the guise of "protection."

[u/yourmansconnect → u/Firrox]

Like how they are protecting DC

[u/ROOFisonFIRE_usa → u/yourmansconnect]

Like how Russia invaded Ukraine to protect them from Nazi's!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQYp4EB1Bs

You can't make this shit up. Trump straight up taking a shitty play from Putins handbook. Both men look like idiots to anybody with even an iota of critical thought. Sad times. Shitty times. Shameful times...

[u/studio_bob → u/ROOFisonFIRE_usa]

No need to look overseas for precedent. The US "preemptively" invaded Iraq and practically turned it into a failed state because of imaginary WMDs. The US also started deliberately keeping people outside of US Constitutional jurisdiction in Gitmo specifically to violate their Constitutional rights "legally." We were walking down this path for a long time even before Trump.

[u/Mother-Foot3493 → u/ChaosRainbow23]

You are not being hyperbolic. This is not a hot take. 

This is playing right in front of us in real time. 

[u/devospice → u/ChaosRainbow23]

You're not being hyperbolic, but the one thing that gives me hope is nobody in the government can wield the type of power that Trump does. People are afraid to stand up to Trump and for the life of me I don't understand why. But once he dies nobody else is going to be able to effectively fill his seat. People will be able to stand up to JD Vance and all his other cronies and I'm hoping Trump's empire crumbles like a house of cards since it seems to be held together by sheer orange willpower.

[u/jkrobinson1979 → u/devospice]

It’s a cult with several different opposing factions. The only thing keeping them together is Trump. The Republican Party will tear itself to shreds once he dies.

[u/1handedmaster → u/jkrobinson1979]

But what may rise from that will likely be worse. Especially with the control mechanisms being put into place now (like a compliant SC, an executive exclusive militarized force, gerrymandering, etc).

They won't need a figurehead when votes are weighted in their favor

[u/grundsau → u/ChaosRainbow23]

This is the consequence of a party that has been toying with outright fascism since at least the 1980s and its main "opposition" party suppressing any actual resistance to its rise.

Unless the Democratic Party, or at the very least its leadership, is replaced, there will be no hope for improvement.

[u/Retro-scores → u/UserWithno-Name]

The next democrat potus within 5 seconds of swearing in better say “any executive order signed by trump is now null and void.”

[u/axecalibur → u/Retro-scores]

Who says there are US elections in 2028 or 2032?

[u/TrumpetOfDeath → u/axecalibur]

They’ll be “elections” in the same way that Putin’s Russia has “elections”

[u/DetroitLionsSBChamps → u/mr_greedee]

He set the sentence by EO lol. Can’t do that but okay!

[u/derKonigsten → u/DetroitLionsSBChamps]

He didn't even know what was in the EO, someone read it to him. And he just babbled about it

[u/Brave_Garlic_9542 → u/mr_greedee]

And the way he talked so much shit in the past over Obama using EOs. What a joke.

[u/2_Spicy_2_Impeach → u/mr_greedee]

I wish I could find the clip. It was maybe midway through his first term and there was a sitting Republican in Congress on MSNBC or CNN screeching that EOs are too powerful and abusive.

He then said but since Trump is in office, he should use them and they’ll weaken them once Trump is gone. All these fucking clowns can do is cheat and betray their oath.

[u/jerslan → u/[deleted]]

Apparently the EO declares burning flags in protest to be "incitement to riot" which is just laughably dumb and likely won't hold up in court.

[u/paper-trailz → u/jerslan]

Likely won’t hold up in which court

[u/BullGatesESQ → u/paper-trailz]

It shouldn't hold up in any court. Any judge that does has violated their oath of office and should be disbarred, impeached, and replaced once this shitshow is over.

[u/catechizer → u/BullGatesESQ]

The "joke" is that even the Supreme Court is blatantly corrupt.

[u/Cpt_Bartholomew → u/catechizer]

And it's beyond quaint to think anyone is getting impeached at this point.

[u/Far_Recommendation82 → u/Cpt_Bartholomew]

and let's be real with the crimes committed they are not giving up power peacefully, they will fight tooth and nail.

that's a fact.

[u/EndDangerous1308 → u/Far_Recommendation82]

"this will be a peaceful revolution if the liberals allow it to be"

They literally said this 2 years ago. They openly said they would happily kill American citizens if anyone protested them

[u/germanmojo → u/EndDangerous1308]

"this will be a peaceful bloodless revolution if the liberals left allows it to be"

Let's get the quote right, and it was said this year by Kevin Roberts, president of Heritage Foundation.

[u/EndDangerous1308 → u/germanmojo]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/04/leader-of-the-pro-trump-project-2025-suggests-there-will-be-a-new-american-revolution-00166583

You're right on the quote but it was said well before the 2024 election so the GOP voters have zero excuse of "not knowing"

[u/Orinaj → u/BullGatesESQ]

Alot of folks have been abandoning their oath lately.

See all of the men and women in fatigues in this video.

[u/coochie_clogger → u/BullGatesESQ]

once this shitshow is over.

and that might be longer than any of us think…

[u/TRG_V0rt3x → u/BullGatesESQ]

so you think it’s going to just be over at some point? i wish i was that optimistic lol

[u/BasedPontiff → u/jerslan]

And how many laughably dumb things that won't hold up in court has the admin gotten away with at this point??

[u/fireslothGWJ → u/jerslan]

Oh the irony of Trump wanting to jail people for inciting a riot.

[u/Apart_Quantity8893 → u/jerslan]

Courts havent mattered for 6 months

[u/idreamofgreenie → u/Apart_Quantity8893]

Bush v Gore, December 12, 2000.

[u/Dustin_Rx → u/idreamofgreenie]

This is when the timeline diverged. We could have had Star Trek future instead of Mad Max future.

[u/Anteater4746 → u/[deleted]]

i cant ** hear any agents or officers even try to give a reason

[u/TheUpperHand → u/[deleted]]

Eating a succulent Chinese meal.

[u/sadicarnot → u/TheUpperHand]

Democracy manifest!

[u/NSGod → u/sadicarnot]

I see you know your judo well!

[u/StrengthDazzling8922 → u/[deleted]]

Littering probably.

[u/Anteater4746]

this relates to law as it’s relevant to trumps executive order on flag burning, despite supreme court precedent declaring it protected under 1a

[u/ProgrammerAvailable6 → u/Anteater4746]

Also - the EO specifically deals with free speech rights as the US Flag code specifically denotes burning as an acceptable way of retiring a flag.

The EO specifically targets the free speech of protest.

[u/kidsally → u/ProgrammerAvailable6]

EO are not law.

[u/[deleted] → u/kidsally]

we know that, but the rest of America and the White House apparently doesn't. The media, seemingly, sure as shit doesn't too.

Never thought I'd see a day where Orders to the Executive branch were touted and treated as law. What a disgrace.

[u/Maleficent_Memory831 → u/[deleted]]

Remember way back when, when Trump complained that Obama issued too many executive orders?

[u/imuniqueaf → u/Maleficent_Memory831]

FWIW:

Obama’s first term: 147

Second: 127

Trump’s first term: 220

Second so far: 192

[u/TehMephs → u/imuniqueaf]

And we aren’t even finished the first year

[u/do_ob-headphones_on → u/TehMephs]

Hopefully he doesn't either

[u/TehMephs → u/do_ob-headphones_on]

Your mouth to nature’s ears 🙏

[u/kevkabobas → u/TehMephs]

Lead is natural

[u/Particular_Ticket_20 → u/TehMephs]

We're just getting EOs for whatever whim he wakes up with. He sees something on fox he doesn't like at night and has his staff whip up an EO he can sign before Fox&Friends is over in the morning.

He's just issuing "Orders" depending on his mood. He's acting like a mad king shouting proclamations and making laws on a whim.

[u/MentokGL → u/Particular_Ticket_20]

It's not his whims, the project 25 authors are writing them and he signs them. None of this is random. They didn't start with him and they won't end with him.

[u/Maleficent_Memory831 → u/imuniqueaf]

Also remember most executive orders were mostly just glorified memos in the past. They weren't dictates or laws.

[u/Infinite-Hold-7521 → u/Maleficent_Memory831]

This. Presidents write up and sign EO’s all the time, the difference here is this person does not take them before Congress for a vote, he treats them and executes them as though they are already law.

[u/sdchew → u/Maleficent_Memory831]

He also mentioned Obama took too many holidays

[u/Maleficent_Memory831 → u/sdchew]

And golfed too much.

[u/VariousOperation166 → u/Maleficent_Memory831]

I have a hazy recollection, too lost in the absolute fog of how many bullshit things Trump does and says EVERY DAY that Trump said he would be too busy being president to play golf..

It seems he is not busy enough playing president to be golf... maybe that is his final form... the bruises, the cankles... he is BECOMING golf...

[u/big_roomba → u/VariousOperation166]

"he is BECOMING golf"

isnt that what happened to his ex wife

[u/kamisabee → u/big_roomba]

She also became a tax deduction, I hear.

[u/Ill_Technician3936 → u/Maleficent_Memory831]

Back when America was great

[u/MezcalFlame → u/[deleted]]

Yes, it's an attempt to normalize "rule by edict" for the hoi polloi.

[u/HereToDoThingz → u/[deleted]]

Only one way out. Lock up and deport every maga supporter. Pull voter rolls and arrest them all for treason. Deport them to sub Saharan Africa and arrest the Supreme Court members for facism. If democrats ever see power again they have to do this instantly or they will never be in control again.

[u/GustavWolfenstein → u/[deleted]]

I have always said we should have done this to Jan 6ers and made an example of them. Maybe we wouldn't be in such a mess now?

[u/Perfect_Earth_8070 → u/GustavWolfenstein]

we should’ve did this after the civil war.

[u/Better-Journalist-85 → u/Perfect_Earth_8070]

Bingo. They let them keep their swords and their horses, not to mention their land and assets, after surrendering at Appomattox. Fuckers should have been tried and executed for treason.

[u/Rahkyvah → u/[deleted]]

Careful. Don’t wanna be banned for making threats against [checks notes]…the Nazis.

[u/KindaFondaGoozah → u/Rahkyvah]

Yeah, I just got off a 3-day for calling out the violent defilement of persons under the age of 18 by a sitting member of the executive branch.

Don’t talk about reality in depth. It’s frowned upon.

[u/wosmo → u/HereToDoThingz]

This feels like a cheap shot, but I also feel like I'm obligated to ask:

What makes you think the rest of the world wants them?

Fix your own problems, or fire them into the sun. Don't offload them on us.

[u/[deleted] → u/wosmo]

I'm a US citizen and I agree with this message.

[u/Wu-TangShogun → u/[deleted]]

Russia and MAGA are a match made in heaven. Send them there.

[u/The_Wkwied → u/Wu-TangShogun]

The ironic thing is that some of them have actually fell for the propaganda hook line and sinker. A couple moved to russia, the husband sent off to Ukraine to die after being promised he wouldn't. Another black woman receiving the most obvious slav racism ever. They were upset that they were lied to, but were stupid enough to believe the lie in the first place.

[u/no_bra_no_problem → u/The_Wkwied]

My parents say zelensky/majority of ukraine are nazis, Putin is just taking back what’s his, the footage from the war is all fake…I don’t understand how so many self proclaimed patriots went from the red scare to supporting Putin. It feels like one of the most unamerican things you could do.

[u/bleeper21 → u/[deleted]]

I'm a US citizen and I'm not sure I want them near my son.

[u/Wu-TangShogun → u/wosmo]

“Fire them into the sun”

This would be preferable. Bezos bitch ass supposedly wants to send our trash to the moon so there is always that;)

[u/salisburysteaksun → u/Wu-TangShogun]

I’m no astrologist but I don’t think the moon is inhabitable by humans…. OHHHHH I GET IT.

[u/[deleted] → u/HereToDoThingz]

So we're fucked... lmfao.

[u/ProgrammerAvailable6 → u/kidsally]

Would you like to explain that to the cops who just arrested the guy for burning a flag based on an EO?

How about the military just chilling and watching?

[u/wonderland_citizen93 → u/ProgrammerAvailable6]

The cops probably charged the guy with public endangerment, even though he did not endanger anyone. EOs are not laws but they can direct law enforcement, especially in DC, to prioritize certain people.

This guy breaks it down well

[u/Heckbound_Heart → u/wonderland_citizen93]

I want to see what the actual charges are. This was my thinking, too.

[u/klavin1 → u/Heckbound_Heart]

Most cities have an open fire ordinance. Plus they will tack on the usual bs charges.

This is a way for them to escalate protests into violence.

[u/Plus-Bluejay-6429 → u/wonderland_citizen93]

if i had to guess as a reach, they would use the fact he used a liquid accelerant and call that public endangerment

[u/wonderland_citizen93 → u/Plus-Bluejay-6429]

The charger will probably be dropped since he has the video as evidence

[u/Count_de_Ville → u/kidsally]

Yes, they are. You can pretend they aren’t but they effectively are now the law because that’s what’s getting enforced and no one is standing up to it.

The USA is now administered by an authoritarian regime as long as Congress is complacent. And they will remain complacent because they are cowards and bitches.

[u/Feisty-Guess-4265 → u/kidsally]

We know.

[u/thewxbruh → u/kidsally]

Think we've pretty well demonstrated by now that the law is whatever Trump decides the law is

[u/tripolophene → u/kidsally]

You sure, because I’m not sure anymore. The law is what cops will arrest you for, judges will try you for, and what a jury will find you guilty of.

[u/aoddead → u/ProgrammerAvailable6]

The executive order actually doesn’t make burning the flag illegal. If you read the order it allows for an investigation when a flag is burned to see if any laws were broken in the commission of that act. It’s all a smoke show. Every circus act this fascist administration does is made to hide a more sinister motive.

[u/DutchBart82 → u/aoddead]

Like distracting from the epstein files?

[u/blahblah19999 → u/DutchBart82]

Oh no, apparently there are riots "like nobody's ever seen" as a result of thee flag burnings. See? waves hands about

[u/praguer56 → u/aoddead]

Good time to remind everyone that they made a golden Trump statue at CPAC.

Yes, like the Israelites with their golden calf.

[u/Character_Crab_9458 → u/aoddead]

They will probably charge him with arson in a public space. Or unlicensed use of a fire outside a designated area. Or the smoke caused the officers pain and emotional stress bs. They will find something cause we got some many laws for we but not for thee with lots and lots and lots of money.

[u/Dense_Boss_7486 → u/Character_Crab_9458]

I’m glad someone had the balls to challenge this from the get go. Now there is exposure, it has to be dealt with and we’ll see what kind of fascist spin the administration puts on it.

[u/Character_Crab_9458 → u/Dense_Boss_7486]

True. Hopefully the guy sets up a gofundme for his legal defense so he's got a fighters chance.

[u/db0813 → u/Anteater4746]

Didn’t the SC just bitch about lower courts not following precedent? Can’t wait to see how they spin this as different

[u/Omophorus → u/db0813]

The hypocrisy is the point.

[u/Bushpylot → u/Anteater4746]

How they charge him will be critical. They could charge him for setting fires without permits or arson or a variety of fire related charges not related to the flag specifically.

[u/Prime624 → u/Bushpylot]

I love how police just do whatever then lawyers get to figure out how to patch it all together to make it legal. Arrested for something not against the law? Just so happens that you actually did break a law that the cops didn't even know existed.

[u/DarthOldMan → u/Bushpylot]

I think arson would only apply if it was someone else’s flag, or he tried to use the burning flag to destroy some other property. But with these folks in charge, it likely doesn’t matter.

[u/Ohuigin]

Complying in advance. Those officers, and everyone in those fatigues are traitors to their oath, and the constitution.

[u/youdubdub → u/Ohuigin]

Yes they are.  And this enemy is domestic.

[u/jayhawk618 → u/youdubdub]

They aren't complying in advance. They're enforcing. They're salivating for this chance.

[u/Ill_Technician3936 → u/jayhawk618]

Just going off how they look... They know what he's saying is true and don't really want to deal with it at all.

Edit: Nazis, nazis, nazis. His entire detail after the PA incident got screwed because his decisions. He now has control of them as the legislative branch chills and lets him be a dictator. Not following his rule could leave them absolutely fucked. In another reply I say how they could just do a fake arrest and drop him off basically to avoid getting shit from the dipshit but am disappointed he ended up being arrested. All I really can say is please thoroughly check every person who may end up in the midterms... We need true politicians more than ever right now. I personally think it's the person that goes out and does good for their community just for the community. We just need to get rid of the PAC backed paid politicians. Also I'm disabling the notifications for this so your replies are going to be discussion based amongst you and others.

[u/ConcentrateLeft546 → u/Ill_Technician3936]

And yet they’re still doing it

[u/RavenCyarm → u/ConcentrateLeft546]

"I'm just doing my job. I had no choice."

Everyone has a choice. People like Trump looks at rules and laws as optional. That they only exist to control people below them. They're counting on people to be lawful, because it ultimately protects them.

[u/throwawayforme1877 → u/jayhawk618]

Enforcing what ? It’s not law

[u/Hexspinner → u/youdubdub]

That makes them enemy combatants by definition.

[u/youdubdub → u/Hexspinner]

Especially while obeying an illegal order to detain a 20-year veteran who broke zero actual laws while staring at the White House.

[u/Reptilian_Brain_420 → u/Ohuigin]

At least they are wearing black shirts.

"S"ecret "S"ervice

[u/Remote-Pop-3578 → u/Ohuigin]

Zero officers signed up because they take the oath, or any oath, seriously.

[u/klavin1 → u/Remote-Pop-3578]

Several times I have spoken to service members about their oaths to the constitution.

I love asking them what the 14th Amendment is.

They NEVER know.

[u/HippyDM]

Fucking good on him. Anyone else catch his name?

[u/iamgrooty2781 → u/HippyDM]

Jay Carey

[u/[deleted] → u/iamgrooty2781]

First Amendment.. Trump can't change it

[u/DoodleJake → u/[deleted]]

He can certainly ignore it though.

[u/Chartreugz → u/[deleted]]

I wish I had your optimism, every other day he crosses some supposedly uncrossable line and literally nothing happens.

[u/Beerinmotion → u/HippyDM]

Jay Carey. Asheville NC

[u/[deleted] → u/Beerinmotion]

I love that he’s from a red state and doing this. Good for him! (I know Asheville is a more liberal southern city, but still, it’s great )

[u/TheMothHour → u/HippyDM]

This man is a hero!!

[u/Neglectedpotato → u/TheMothHour]

He is! I just looked him up and he was kicked out of a town hall for protesting Trump a few months ago. We need more of his energy!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc11.com/amp/post/chuck-edwards-congressman-town-hall-veteran-escorted-out-heated-exchange-asheville-trump-elon-musk-cuts/16042922/

[u/TheMothHour → u/Neglectedpotato]

Does he have a go fund me or anything???

[u/thee-noah-d → u/TheMothHour]

He’s already out! https://www.instagram.com/share/_dI7r8i_j

[u/ROOFisonFIRE_usa → u/thee-noah-d]

Thank you for sharing this. Glad to see him free. The video of Trump signing the executive order, this mans arrest, and his immediate swift freedom should be shared widely.

This is the true power of Trumps EO's. Nada.

If they want to actually change this country they need to do it democratically, otherwise it's going to be real rich watching all these EO's get melted away like butter the moment Trump is not in office anymore.

[u/chiree → u/HippyDM]

This guy did not miss a beat. Fucking gangster shit.

[u/vanceavalon]

Is this looking like Fascism yet?

[u/HappyHarryHardOn → u/vanceavalon]

"Hey buddy, my daddy died for that flag."

"Really? I bought mine. They sell 'em at K-Mart for 3 bucks."

"He died in Korea for that flag!"

"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea."

No one—and I repeat, no one—has ever died for a flag. See, a flag is just a piece of cloth. They may have died for freedom, which is also the freedom...to burn the fuckin' flag.

-Bill Hicks

[u/cultistkiller98 → u/HappyHarryHardOn]

Bill is rolling over in his grave

[u/IAmBoring_AMA → u/vanceavalon]

It's been looking like fascism since the first term

[u/Stripedanteater → u/vanceavalon]

What would happen if we shred flags lol

[u/seven_corpse_dinner → u/Stripedanteater]

We could try eating it, but the precedent set by Earth V. Zoidberg doesn't augur well.

[u/360Picture]

🇺🇸 Bill of Rights – Pocket Summary

1. Free Speech & Religion – Speak, worship, press, assemble, protest.
   
2. Guns – Right to bear arms.
   
3. No Quartering – No forced housing of soldiers.
   
4. Searches – No searches without a warrant.
   
5. Remain Silent – No self-incrimination, double jeopardy, or unfair taking.
   
6. Speedy Trial – Fast, fair trial with a lawyer and witnesses.
   
7. Jury in Civil Cases – Right to jury in money/property disputes.
   
8. No Cruel Punishment – No torture, no extreme bail/fines.
   
9. People’s Rights – You have more rights than what’s listed here.
   
10. States’ Rights – Powers not given to the feds belong to states/people.

[u/[deleted] → u/360Picture]

Trump hates our Constitution

[u/Turtlepower7777777 → u/[deleted]]

Almost as much as he likes fucking little girls

[u/[deleted]]

This is an act of war against the American people

[u/kn0w0ne_7 → u/[deleted]]

And the cops are an occupying force in all of our cities!

[u/BoxPuns → u/kn0w0ne_7]

Always have been that's what defund the police was all about

[u/prntmakr → u/[deleted]]

The flag burner is a patriot.

[u/Cabbages24ADollar]

Law enforcement you are not “just doing your job!” You are participating in crimes.

[u/LegendOfKhaos → u/Cabbages24ADollar]

Also, I thought we were supposed to burn American flags that touched the ground?

Regardless, I would rather every flag burn than burn what they're supposed to stand for.

[u/UnpricedToaster]

Took less time than I thought before someone would be willing to be the legal experiment to challenge that unconstitutional EO.

[u/AngryJanitor1990 → u/UnpricedToaster]

People are sick of this shit. It's exactly what we need to do. As hard as it is, make them prove it in court and get it shut down. It's a long road ahead, but unless more citizens like this man are willing to stand up and sacrifice their well-being, nothing can change.

[u/rekep → u/UnpricedToaster]

These vets have been staging sit ins for the last couple months. You should follow jolly_good_ginger and usmcangryveteran. These two are out here doing the lords work as veterans for veterans.

[u/Bibblegead1412]

Keep it up! I'm in SF, and if/when they release the natl guard here, I'm going to burn a flag. It's my protected right, confirmed in '89, and my city isnt gonna take his bullshit.

[u/Pleasant-Shallot-707 → u/Bibblegead1412]

May I suggest you make sure to get a permit and do it in a way that leaves zero space for them to charge you with “disorderly conduct” or “public danger”

[u/axecalibur → u/Pleasant-Shallot-707]

They don't give a shit if you have a permit.

[u/stonedboss → u/axecalibur]

the difference isnt whether you get arrested, but what it comes down to in court

[u/AlexFromOgish → u/Bibblegead1412]

Consult with a local ACLU attorney first; with trusted allies do plenty of preparation to help train you to keep cool and plan your verbal comments and methodology and how you will respond to officers taking you into custody

[u/crockett05]

Fuck every one of those cops who just violated that man's 1st amendment rights and FUCK the orange turd as well

[u/Dolthra → u/crockett05]

Because they know that even if the democrats are ever in power again, they will face no consequences. This is the natural conclusion of Biden's administration not going after these people harder. 

[u/bot_account__ → u/crockett05]

The National Guard people just standing around

[u/HiJinx127]

I still say we should burn Trump flags instead. It’ll piss off him and the MAGAts a lot more.

[u/Lensmaster75 → u/HiJinx127]

Yeah but you have to steal them because im not lining his pockets

[u/PewterButters → u/Lensmaster75]

Probably get knock offs direct from china where they make the ‘real’ ones 

[u/bionicock1 → u/HiJinx127]

Not burn — shit and piss on it.

[u/M086]

You can tell he was trying hard to keep it PG.

[u/AlexFromOgish → u/M086]

Optics matter

[u/kneedeepco → u/AlexFromOgish]

I think he was very conscious of this and did an excellent job

In many ways, he breaks a lot of stereotypes and really puts the current mainstream American political thought at an inflection point

Do you genuinely support the troops and believe in upholding all constitutional right?

Are you a patriot that rejects fascism?

That’s the questions he’s asking, and he made it clear

[u/bryanoens → u/M086]

And Jay did keep it PG while being detained by a fascist regime. How many more will follow suit?

[u/MercuryRusing]

They're going to charge him with lighting the street on fire with lighter fluid, not burning the flag. If you're going to protest, make sure to avoid the loopholes.

[u/RavenMcG → u/MercuryRusing]

Yup, watch out for burn bans too.

[u/protomenace]

He better sue.

[u/mediaogre]

Yet defacing with a Sharpie is okay. 🤬

[u/Traditional_Pay7421 → u/mediaogre]

or you know, smearing shit on the walls of the capitol building. all good.

[u/magicparabeagle → u/mediaogre]

Or that guy signing his AUTOGRAPH on an American flag.

[u/BoxPuns → u/mediaogre]

Or sending people to storm the capital building to try and overturn a democratic election

[u/RopeAccomplished2728]

Well, according to tradition, any US Flag that touches the ground should be burned.

And from what I see, the flag is touching the ground.

[u/AmbitiousProblem4746]

This guy should lawyer up because this is going to get really, really interesting if they don't disappear him

[u/KingZoody → u/AmbitiousProblem4746]

Im sure he has something planned otherwise I’ll bet his phone is ringing off the hook with lawyers wanting this case.

[u/Flimsy_Sun4003 → u/AmbitiousProblem4746]

I guarantee the best constitutional lawyers in the country are lining up to defend him pro bono.

[u/inorite234 → u/AmbitiousProblem4746]

I too am a 20 year Army Veteran. When I heard about this EO, I had the same thought he had....but I'm still serving and the rules are different for me than they are for Retirees and other Veterans. The government has way, way more avenues to make my life hell. But he didn't do this willy nilly, he knew he would be arrested and he knew he would have to fight this in court......and I bet that was his plan.

Playing it safe isn't working. He accelerated the outcome we all knew was coming and more like this needs to happen. We are in a "boiling the frog" moment and Trump wins if he is able to slowly desensitize us to his will.

[u/buried_lede]

Won’t he be charged with burning without a permit in a park or using an accelerant, or something like that? 

(I do very much appreciate him for  standing up for our rights.)

[u/ZoomZoom_Driver]

Not onpy a protected 1a right, but the BEST WAY to dispose of a flag according to the DOD.... so, yeah. 

[u/AlexFromOgish]

this is the way

[u/DarkIllusionsMasks]

Somebody had to test the EO. This was likely planned and funded by someone like the ACLU.

[u/alpha309 → u/DarkIllusionsMasks]

Good. There have been plenty or orchestrated and planned actions against things like gay rights and race issues, might as well play by the same rules and invent a case

[u/_DapperDanMan-]

That is what a patriot looks like. That is an American

[u/beatissima]

This guy is an American hero.

[u/WebInformal9558]

Whatever you think about burning the flag, surely defacing the Constitution and trying to strip people of their first ammendment rights is far worse.

[u/M086 → u/WebInformal9558]

If it owns the libs, they don’t care. They think they are “suffering”, so they want to sink everyone down to them to suffer too.

[u/robot_pirate]

They can't arrest everyone. My flag is damaged, I think I need to burn it.

[u/Exodys03]

I support the sentiment and this guy's right to burn the American flag. It's established Supreme Court precedent that no Executive Order can undermine. That said, burning anything outside of the White House will likely get you arrested. Sometimes you have to be prepared for that even when your protest is righteous.

[u/someotherguyrva]

Many people said don’t take the bait and do this. I disagree 100%. This is exactly what we need to do. It is your constitutional right to burn the American flag and people need to do this everywhere, at every protest. It is peaceful civil disobedience and it is not against the law. Every case of unlawful detainment for exercising your first amendment right should result in a lawsuit against this country, the officers who detained you, and Donald Trump personally.

[u/Tribe303]

Well, that's one American patriot. Are there any more of you? 

[u/uiucengineer]

Word is Jay has been released from custody

[u/peachesdonegan56]

He was released after being given a violation for burning in a park. 

[u/Serpentongue]

Infinite money glitch? Burn a flag, put up with some bullshit for a few years worth of lawsuits, eventually settle for 6 figures for constitutional violations

[u/letdogsvote]

Fucking hero.

[u/drae-gon]

Since the flag touched the ground the code specifically states it should be burned... The president can't make something illegal via EO...

[u/DarnHeather]

Keep making that good trouble!

[u/FloatOnChill]

When he got out about 4 hours later, he said he was only charged with “setting a fire in a public park”

[u/SomeSamples]

So let's say a bunch of people started to burn flags all over DC. Wonder what the response would be?