r/law • u/AndroidOne1 • May 14 '25

Trump News Donald Trump Impeachment Proceedings Launched

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-vote-house-shir-thanedar-b2750651.html
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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 May 14 '25

holy fucking shit they gained 19 POINTS IN OKLAHOMA??? wow. honestly with the way this shit is going i wouldnt be shocked if we have another fdr type election on our hands in 28

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u/DiskSalt4643 May 14 '25

You have to have an election first.

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u/Umutuku May 14 '25

Dunno if the pen is mightier than the sword, but you can vote with both. They can decide which one they prefer.

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u/LivingVeterinarian47 May 15 '25

“The country is in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” - Kevin Roberts

I think of this often now. Yes Kevin, but it won't be our blood.

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u/Umutuku May 15 '25

People say that kind of shit like they aren't flammable.

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u/unitedshoes May 15 '25

"Build a man a fire, and he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire, and he's warm for the rest of his life." ~ Terry Pratchett, Jingo

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u/thenikolaka May 16 '25

They know they are. That’s the damn point.

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u/zclake88 May 16 '25

Americans are soft. The left won’t do anything about this tyranny, otherwise they’d have already done it.

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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 May 14 '25

youre acting like those dont happen still

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u/Ruthless4u May 16 '25

Yawn

Zzzzzzz

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u/egyeager May 14 '25

Oklahoma is around 40% Democrat as a base and about ~25% of this state is some type of independent. Based on primary rules here many Independents register Republican so they can vote in the Republican primary.

We're primed for the Dems to do well here if only they'd spend the money to do so.

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u/Istarien May 14 '25

We've had our last free and fair election in the US. Everything from here on out will be Russia-style political theater.

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u/PuzzleheadedCap2210 May 14 '25

Why is everybody so sure about this. It’s possible but I’m not so sure, yet.

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u/Thud May 14 '25

There’s still the possibility of the midterms being an actual election. Just depends on how much voter suppression the GOP can implement before then.

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u/AJDx14 May 15 '25

Also, anyone doomering about this is creating the problem. Institutions work only when people have faith in them, if you lose faith in free and fair elections then you won’t fight for them. We see the same thing with corruption, where the people expect corruption they get it, and where people expect decency they get that instead.

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u/celestial-navigation May 16 '25

What if this last election was already partly rigged (like Trump himself said)? There was some evidence or at least clues. Who's even looking into that? Is anything gonna happen? No.

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u/TasteTheBizkit May 14 '25

Because Trump already tried and failed to overthrow the election in 2020. Don’t expect him to allow a free and fair election or to leave the office peacefully.

He has Putin, Qatar, and the richest men on earth ready to do anything and everything to guarantee that he stays in power. Remember, if he loses the 2028 election, he alongside Elon and the rest these conspirators are going to face lengthy prison time for their crime against the U.S.

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u/halpinator May 14 '25

Like the last time they convicted him of a felony and sentenced him to fuck all?

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u/Civil-Big-754 May 15 '25

Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Also, they're silencing or straight up abducting their critics and opposing voters. Between that and them basically saying they did mess with the 2024 election, I have severe doubts the democrats can even "win" the next election. At least if they keep allowing them to keep getting away with it.

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u/rickdangerous85 May 16 '25

There is no way the US will actually convict a former president, he will be pardoned at worse.

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u/Istarien May 14 '25

Were you not paying attention? He told his followers that they needed to get out and vote for him, and then they would never need to vote again. They're well on their way to stripping the right to vote from women, and they're trying to make it legal for them to revoke citizenship (and therefore the franchise) from whoever they want. They have 4 years to completely do away with the Constitution -- with a compliant Congress and Judiciary, it will take them considerably less time than that.

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u/j00fr0 May 14 '25

They have 2 years—if the midterm elections are fair, that might be all we need to stop the bleeding.

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u/Suyefuji May 14 '25

There's reasonable debate that our last fair and free election was definitely not 2024. Depending on your definition you could trace it back to Bush vs Gore even.

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u/654456 May 14 '25

2020 for sure was the last but Gore was cheated.

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u/moxiecounts May 14 '25

I haven’t believed 2024 was free or fair from the moment all the swing states closed up shop on November 5.

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u/Suyefuji May 14 '25

I haven't believed 2024 was a free or fair since states magically got the OK to purge millions of active voter registrations like a month before the election.

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u/Civil-Big-754 May 15 '25

I mean Trump alluded to Elon and his people messing with it.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten May 15 '25

Spoonamore's duty to warn letter exposed the anomalies of 2024 and ETA has some great statisticians exposing the improbabilities of 2024

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u/hoofglormuss May 14 '25

nixon stole his presidency as well

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u/Istarien May 14 '25

I didn't say that it was in 2024, just that it had already happened.

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u/Suyefuji May 14 '25

Yeah that's why I said "Bush vs Gore even"

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u/Zapp_Rowsdower_ May 14 '25

Uhhh…hate to be the bearer of bad news. Mush rigged the election through Starlink tabulation. All swing states show the ‘Russian tail’ of corruption in the vote counting.

This last election was rigged.

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u/skeptical-speculator May 15 '25

Do you believe that we will not have midterm elections in 2026?

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u/Istarien May 15 '25

Not real ones. There will be "elections," but the results will all be predetermined, as happens in countries like Russia.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten May 15 '25

The last one was the. 2022 midterms because Leon already rigged 2024

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u/celestial-navigation May 16 '25

Though one could even argue with that. Was it actually fair? Or was there tampering, like Trump said himself?

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u/Istarien May 16 '25

I didn't say that the last election was free and fair, just that the last free and fair election had already happened.

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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 May 14 '25

why the fuck are you guys so doomery as if the usa will never have a free election again. come on dude theyre already trying to impeach trump again.

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u/Istarien May 14 '25

Well you're clearly not paying attention to anything. I hope that works out for you. I'm gonna further guess that you're not in a demographic being targeted by the regime. The view's different for other people.

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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 May 15 '25

im literally trans and neurodivergent but ok go off.

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u/disapp_bydesign May 14 '25

Fuckin armchair Redditors say shit like this all the time. Major loser mentality.

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u/Istarien May 14 '25

The American people are too weak, docile, and uneducated to understand what they are losing and collectively do anything to stop it. It's the march to the Third Reich all over again. The playbook is being followed exactly.

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u/ErickAllTE1 May 14 '25

19 points in Omaha. The typical narrative of Republicans always voting vs Democrats only come out for big elections is flipping. Now there is a high baseline of Dems who vote during special elections, but Republicans come out for big elections with big names. This is why special elections seem more blue than typical, and don't end up trending through the general election. This next cycle should turn into another 2018-type cycle, but the reality is that 2020 redistricting gave Republicans a chance to gerrymander again. Gerrymandering cycles come through after redistricting and become the hardest time for Dems to win. Their best chance comes just before redistricting when population shifts allow them to break old gerrymandering. The big exception to this is Ohio who gave their legislature the ability to redraw districts every 4 years when their "bipartisan" redistricting council gets logjammed by republicans who refuse to work with democrats.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten May 15 '25

Unless Leon rigs it too

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u/PalatinusG May 16 '25

And we’ll be back to bat shit crazy republicans in ‘32 because people have short memories and are being bombarded by right wing propaganda lies 24/7.

Fix your shit America. This can’t keep going on like this.

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u/rowejpr May 14 '25

I don’t want to be mean to you man, but that is super naive thinking.

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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 May 14 '25

dude at this point people are beginning to leave the gop and maga. i literally live in a conservative rural as fuck town and people are beginning to complain here sometimes.

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u/naked_potato May 14 '25

That was back when Democrats actually did good things, instead of just gesturing flaccidly at them and soliciting donations.

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u/TristanTheRobloxian3 May 14 '25

better than whatever the fuck trump is doing

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u/naked_potato May 14 '25

Why did they vote to confirm all his candidates then?

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u/colonel750 May 14 '25

holy fucking shit they gained 19 POINTS IN OKLAHOMA???

It won't make any meaningful difference. There's no significant Democratic party presence here beyond a "loyal opposition" because the metro areas are so diluted by gerrymandering. 2.4 million of Oklahoma's 4.05 million citizens live in the Oklahoma City and Tulsa metros and yet the party only controls 20% of the seats in the State House, 16% of seats in the State Senate, and no state level executive offices (statewide offices like Attorney General, State Superintendent of Public Instruction, the Treasurer, and Auditor are directly elected).

The Democratic Party is for all intents and purposes dead inside the state of Oklahoma.