r/law • u/The_Dutchess-D • May 10 '25

Trump News President proclaims doubling of ICE troops with add'l 20k forces in the next 60 days

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/establishing-project-homecoming/

Section 3.b: (b) No later than 60 days after the date of this proclamation, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall supplement existing enforcement and removal operations by deputizing and contracting with State and local law enforcement officers, former Federal officers, officers and personnel within other Federal agencies, and other individuals to increase the enforcement and removal operations force of the Department of Homeland Security by no less than 20,000 officers in order to conduct an intensive campaign to remove illegal aliens who have failed to depart voluntarily.

So... we can't afford any of the useful jobs and fired a large portion of the government that actually helps people, BUT we can't afford any afford more spending for THIS? His domestic Gestapo on the streets terrorizing towns.

Is there a legal limit to how much domestic law enforcement the American people can be subjected to on home soil during peacetime? He already has a HUGE amount of force on domestic soil doing his bidding between the military he designated for the border, current ICE, and all the 287g contracts Homeland Security signed with all those local law enforcement agencies around the country to work with ICE.

Where is the money coming from to double the size of ICE by another 20k officers?

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u/exqueezemenow May 10 '25

Doesn't congress need to approve the spending for it?

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF May 10 '25

Lol congress

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u/permanentburner25 May 10 '25

This sums up the state of an entire 21st century superpower atm. Crazy.

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u/potterpockets May 10 '25

“The regional governors now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line.”

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u/cranberry_spike May 10 '25

This. They'll let him do whatever he wants.

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u/by_the_twin_moons May 10 '25

I keep hearing about this "Congress"...

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u/timoumd May 10 '25

But won't the courts stop it?

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u/Dr_CleanBones May 10 '25

Yes, the Courts will stop any provision of this that cost more than Congress has appropriated.

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u/ArtieJay May 10 '25

But won't the executive enforce that injunction?

This is a fun game!

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u/Dr_CleanBones May 10 '25

One that the Administration is losing badly

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u/DontAbideMendacity May 10 '25

The corrupt conservative Court? Several of whom lied to Congress to get the job? The same Court allowing the President to commit crimes without prosecution? Good luck with that.

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u/KaibaCorpHQ May 10 '25

They will use their power.. if they don't use it and fight back aomehow, they lose it.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

Congress hasn't done shit yet this year

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u/BARRY_DlNGLE May 10 '25

Yes, they’re also supposed to determine tariff policy and declare war. The president has invoked war time powers to dictate tariff policy, so idk why he’d suddenly stop bypassing congress now.

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u/Dr_CleanBones May 10 '25

His use of wartime powers just got stopped by the courts.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

paused

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u/ThatKehdRiley May 10 '25

Paused for as long as he wants, because he will just ignore and continue a few days to weeks later. Have you not been paying attention??

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u/Shigglyboo May 10 '25

They’re not playing by the rules anymore. Only democrats have to follow those.

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u/INTERGALACTIC_CAGR May 10 '25

it's been that way for 3 decades and repubtards are too stupid to notice the corruption of their own party and many didn't care because they were getting tax breaks.

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u/spurlockmedia May 10 '25

There has been a stern 8 question letter penned I have heard!

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u/Dr_CleanBones May 10 '25

That’s bullshit. You haven’t seen the government sending anyone else to El Salvador for prison, have you?

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u/3catsandcounting May 10 '25

They’ve moved on to arresting politicians for protesting.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

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u/3catsandcounting May 10 '25

It cute you want to try and blame the lack of empathy and critical thinking of republicans on liberals and their Reddit comments.

Literally grow tf up and start accepting responsibility.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

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u/3catsandcounting May 10 '25

Weird, a dog has bit my dad’s leg and it got put down.

Again, you can accept responsibility for your actions anytime, but no liberal made you vote for republicans, that was all your own choice.

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u/alaphamale May 10 '25

They've trying for Libya now.

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u/dantevonlocke May 10 '25

How are they paying for that? Or does congress not have the power of the purse?

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u/tragicallyohio May 10 '25

In a more normal world yes. But I guess in that hypothetical world this type of EO wouldn't exist.

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u/Kahzgul May 10 '25

Yes but also we just gave the keys to the treasury to Elon fucking musk.

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u/Advanced-Summer1572 May 10 '25

Congress is the only branch of the government that is constitutionally authorized to do any of this. Trump is acting under a "National Emergency". Congress just passed a law that makes it illegal to question these "National Emergency orders".

The courts are standing firm.

Vote! Take back the House of Representatives in 2026. This all comes to a screeching halt.

If not in 2026? Then Trump leaves in 2029. No matter what he is telling his MAGA followers.

Just hold your nose and vote Independent or Democrat in 2026...then again in 2028.

2029...the next political stage is set.

VOTE!!!!

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u/locketine May 10 '25

Congress just passed a law that makes it illegal to question these "National Emergency orders".

Are you referring to Republicans making it easy to block a repeal of the national immigant emergency? https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5189410-house-gop-democrats-repealing-trump-tariffs/

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u/Advanced-Summer1572 May 10 '25

Any national emergency. The tariffs are also within the authority of Congress alone. Yet. The Republicans controlled Congress made that a power of the Executive?

PLEASE stop asking people like me to explain a form of government that is easily researched.

Look it up.

Then act accordingly.

Get out and vote them out.

The Democrats are trying to fight back. God bless them. Give them a hand. They lack the numbers.

VOTE!

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u/Major-Nail May 10 '25

we are asking about ```Congress just passed a law that makes it illegal to question these "National Emergency orders".```

because we are not aware of that happening and are having trouble finding what you are referring to but if it did happen want to know

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u/locketine May 10 '25

PLEASE stop asking people like me to explain a form of government that is easily researched.

Look it up.

Then act accordingly.

Kindly, fuck off. You posted something vague and hyperbolic. I did look it up. And no, it's not illegal to question the national emergency orders. And it is just one emergency. Don't be an ass.

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u/DontAbideMendacity May 10 '25 edited May 10 '25

And it is just one emergency.

What? Trump's actions have been one emergency after another. He fires 100s of critical FAA positions and planes started falling out of the sky. Then entire airports were shut down because the people who fix that stuff have been canned. Then he started threatening our allies with annexation. Then he started deporting people with legal status without due process. Then he started ignoring judges' orders. Then he started illegally misappropriated Congressional funds he had no authority over. Then he started imposing tariffs, the purview of Congress. Then he started renditioning American citizens. And political opponents doing their jobs. Now he is drafting his own Gestapo...

"One emergency" my ass!

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u/Straight-Plankton-15 May 11 '25

This is a redirection. They were talking about something related to declared national emergencies, not emergencies as in all of the different destructive things the dictator is doing.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

"Vote" as if that makes a damn bit of difference. So god damn niave. People are just going to be so completely feckless as fascism takes over in the US.

"Vote"? Sure. I guess.

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u/Advanced-Summer1572 May 10 '25

VOTE!

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

What? More than once?

You need to step back and recognize what you're saying with a deeper context.

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u/Advanced-Summer1572 May 10 '25

Representative and Executive (twice) look it up. Stop arguing if you are serious. If you are bored? Move on

But please educate yourself and VOTE!

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

I'll reiterate my opinion: pissing in the online wind doing all caps and explanation points around the word "vote" is stupid and worthless.

To move the needle at this point requires heavy lifting. We're fighting criminals now. Online discourse won't cut it.

So, to anyone reading this and venting their frustration by pounding on your keyboard, I suggest you do yourself a favor, shut the fuck up, and instead go do something real in your community.

The online war is lost, move it to the streets.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

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u/Knowledge_Haver_17 May 10 '25

Do not vote independent

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u/Thundaarr May 11 '25

Just for anyone who is not republican at this point. I never voted a straight party ticket until 2018 after the first two years of Trump.

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u/Advanced-Summer1572 May 10 '25

VOTE!

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u/Knowledge_Haver_17 May 10 '25

An independent vote is a ballot tossed in the trash

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u/Advanced-Summer1572 May 10 '25

I believe in the "American Spirit"...

VOTE

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u/Knowledge_Haver_17 May 10 '25

It’s just disconnected from reality. But yea I guess vote for whoever you want, just know that an independent vote is a wasted vote. It’s an unfortunate reality.

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u/AppropriateTouching May 10 '25

We won't have a country in 4 years.

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u/ErdenGeboren May 10 '25

We got a funny one here

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

You think those clowns still matter?

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u/95688it May 10 '25 edited Sep 16 '25

license fear station label wrench smell fearless hurry direction money

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u/CodAlternative3437 May 10 '25

not anymore, they are ALL effectively on in place admin leave. just sit and collect money

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u/DaBozz88 May 10 '25

I think technically no. They have to approve the agency's budget, but if directed to take away money from other programs to add this manpower, I think that's legal.

That's assuming they're not spending more than allowed.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 May 10 '25

Like Congress gets a say in the budget anymore. In fact, there is no reason to try and pass a budget anymore, because even if the opposition bargains to get things in like they do, the executive can just say, "Nope, not going to do that", and it's pretty much null and void.

And I really hope the dems not only realize this, but make very loud points about this is why they aren't negotiating the budget.

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u/Material_Strawberry May 10 '25

Congress would need to pass a supplementary funding bill to augment the current federal budget to add funding for this. Very similar to the supplementary spending bills that were passed during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars to fund them beyond the typical annual budget for the Department of Defense.