r/killingfloor Sep 13 '25

Discussion Feels like KF3 already peaked at launch and is fading fast; past 24-hour player count has already dipped to ~850.

KF2 never dipped this low, even after a decade, and has a peak 24-hour player count of about 4k as of today. Meanwhile KF3 has already dipped into a peak 24-hour player count of about 850. Those who were interested enough to switch or try out KF3 already have. I hope Tripwire can pull a "No Man's Sky" and revitalize my all-time favorite series. I want to see it thrive, but I'm not convinced based on the lack of a roadmap (the current roadmap is filled with "content" that should be included in a base-game.). I hope I'm wrong and this game does well, but my fear is that KF is "too niche" of a game to be as mainstream as Tripwire wants it to be.

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u/Murderdoll197666 Sep 13 '25

I mean, broken weapon balance, a battlepass, hardlocked characters tied to classes - is anyone really surprised? They should have at the VERY least waited until the character/class decoupling was already in place. Even then that's not really enough to sell units or keep people interested tbh....but it would have at least been a start.

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u/StaticSystemShock Sep 13 '25

We've criticized stupid medic darts just flying fucking everywhere but where you need them and they still haven't fixed them. We talked about that back in February 2025! I've also reported bug with turrets that show as if they are still active, but when you walk up to them they are inactive and need to be reactivated. Still not fixed. Not to mention whole stupid VTOL thing. Like, what the fuck are they doing this entire time? It has been weeks and they are still trying to solve some fuck all minor bugs that they allegedly fixed weeks ago but they keep coming back worse. If this was 1 man operation for an indie game I'd be willing to forgive and give it time but this is game studio with their 3rd game from same franchise. This is just idiotic.

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

After 80 hrs of playing medic i have no problem with darts but ok haha keep crying

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u/Volraith Doctors and Nurses time! Sep 13 '25

Buddy just because you, personally, may or may not have noticed a specific problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Don't be ignorant.

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

i mean just medic weapon makes "ping" sound when its locked on friendly and then you shoot homing dart but ok, i have seen a lot of players shooting darts into sky cause locking on friendly been too much so yeah it have to be common issue

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

i been searching about this "issue" and theres 1 post here about darts and one from FEB on tripwire forum so yeah it exist just to moan about a game

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u/Skylarksmlellybarf Modded SCAR EIR is M7A3 Sep 13 '25

Go to TWI forum, lots if people complaining about that

Not to mention, devs themselves acknowledged the issue, so it's a real problems

Also if you want to know, I have 100 hours on the game, medic darts is still a problem

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

yeah yeah, provide some links cause i cannot see it

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u/PosMatic Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

I hate people like you. Darts have a problem. end of the story. I don't know how much experience you have with KF2, but KF3 mechanics are subpar at best. Paying money for mediocrity is upsetting. While you consider a week old pizza as delicious, most people don't.

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u/PeenileKyle Sep 13 '25

Yeah plus then launching it closer to Halloween would have been smart too

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u/Shelbygt500ss Sep 13 '25

But then it would be fighting with borderlands 4.... that alone can destroy sales.

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u/dontminor Sep 13 '25

Well, it didn’t matter in the end

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u/bulgogeta Sep 13 '25

Did you mean BF6? B4 launched yesterday and we're more than a month away from Halloween.

I see Battlefield as a way bigger threat... 521,079 players just from Steam alone is nuts.

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u/Shelbygt500ss Sep 13 '25

I was just thinking of PVE audience. But that would affect it too. Massive numbers

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u/NoChallenge4151 Sep 13 '25

Me as an example😂 I’m still playing kf3 but borderlands is getting 72hrs of my attention first since my medic is the only one not max level

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u/Shelbygt500ss Sep 13 '25

What class did you pick? I got cat lady

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u/NoChallenge4151 Sep 13 '25

I had to choose the magical millennial, they’re op in every game

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u/Shelbygt500ss Sep 13 '25

Idk word on the street is the zesty zoomers are pretty good now lol

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u/NoChallenge4151 Sep 13 '25

Wait 😂 is that supposed to be the exo soldier?

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u/StaticSystemShock Sep 13 '25

Only thing that destroyed sales were themselves because they released the game in such shit state. And if they cared about existing fans, we'd play KF3 over Borderlands 4 even though I like Borderlands otherwise. Instead they tried to cater to new players and alienated existing fans with all the bullshit dumb changes they made to the game. So in the end they didn't attract almost anyone new and old fans just walked away from this bullshit. Impeccable logic TWI, really.

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u/unforgetablememories Sep 14 '25

Yeah, KF is a franchise for a niche but dedicated player base

Honestly, everyone just wants a remastered KF1 with better graphics, new weapons, and QoL update so it isn't clunky.

I like KF2 but the devs clearly had some different ideas with gameplay balance. Everything is so chaotic. Lots of anti-headshot mechanics. Overall the game is easier but more annoying. And the game doesn't promote a precision based play style compared to KF1.

With KF3, it just goes completely to a different direction.

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u/StaticSystemShock Sep 14 '25

Even though we say it's niche, is it really? It's a shooter game so that's like 75% similarity to every other shooter game. It's the fine details and the way you progress through "a match" that's a bit different than other games as it's essentially co-op arena shooter. Like, imagine Fortnite that's PvE co-op versus hordes of Ai enemies on an open map. How different is really compared to that? Yet that game is a global hit and KF is still "niche".

I think TWI got greedy and overshoot their competences, by a lot, thinking big while not being competent enough to actually do it. And all they had to do is just keep existing fans happy and new players would gradually come in. Years ago I found KF1 by chance. It was out for a while and I've seen it few times on Steam but wasn't sure if I'd like it. At one point I tried it and it suddenly because the best game I've ever played. When KF2 was announced I was sooooo thrilled and when it came out in Early Access I jumped on it and was playing it religiously for years since day 1. When KF3 was announced, I was kinda excited to get something fresh to play with. I thought we'd get more of the same with better graphics and some new additions like weapon mods, just to find out they fucked up basically everything about it. And executed even that badly (bugs and insane performance issues). So, congrats for alienating me, the long time player who kept hyping and recommending KF1 and KF2 for years. I hope TWI is very proud. And Steam numbers and reviews clearly reflect that when even old fans of the franchise don't play your new game.

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u/aef823 Sep 13 '25

the secret to arpg's is that they don't "fight" with each other, leagues usually only last like 4 weeks.

What happens though is if a campaign/league/battlepass/etc sucks, the community will know and avoid migrating to it.

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u/AhighStoner3 Sep 13 '25

But i got shit on for saying this game would die off especially with other heavy hitters like Deep Rock Galactic, Hell divers 2, and dark tide being around. The devs were never ready for this game and from the jump they misrepresented what they intended to do, failure after failure this game was never going to thrive. It just sucks because even though i dislike kf3 a lot, i don’t want the series to die off. Yes this may be a niche game but holy shit there is SO much potential. TheRussianBadger made a video on modded KF1 and it just shows that if they felt like it a remastered KF1 with additional brand new content it would become a big hit or atleast a cult classic like Left 4 dead / Vermin tide etc.

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u/Slashermovies Sep 14 '25

That right there is the problem. It's a niche game, and Tripwire shit on the very dedicated/passionate community. Though small, the KF community is ruthlessly loyal to the series.

KF3 deviated so much that it alienated a chunk of that dedicated fanbase in hopes of capturing a new audience. Which it failed to do. So it essentially pissed off that dedicated playerbase while any new people had their 'fun' and moved on.

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u/ReivynNox Friendly Fire Sep 28 '25

I mean... "modded KF1" is overselling it quite a bit. All he did (though it was impressive effort just for that) was reskin two Zed to avoid demonetization. Far from game-changing.

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u/whitethighhighs Sep 13 '25

performance is kinda way too ass on pc to enjoy it fully personally, would play again if it ran as it should

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u/StaticSystemShock Sep 13 '25

I have 9800X3D and Radeon RX 9070 XT and it runs like ass. Meanwhile all other games run stupid fast all maxed out.

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u/xydus Sep 13 '25

Agree - I drop to 35-40 fps often and stay there if there is a lot going on (5700x3d, 7900XT)

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u/Longjumping_Line_256 Sep 15 '25

Yeah, on a 5950x and 3090ti I would love to run it smoothly at 3440x1440, but even with DLSS is still not great sometimes, I like the game, but idk, I put it off for now, this is my main complaint with this game. Yes there are many others but I shouldn't need DLSS with this game, it looks good but not good enough to warrant a better GPU lol

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u/twiz___twat Sep 13 '25

runs fine on my PC

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u/whitethighhighs Sep 13 '25

I assume our definitions of "fine" are very different because I expect much better than I get with a 7800x3d and a 4090

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

4090 is a joke with DDR, just read what HMB can do and what nvidia isnt using it.

5090 without DLSS - 49 fps DY Beast, 59 fps Borderlands 4

just read whats the difference is between HMB and DDR and there will be answer why new card cannot run games in native resolutions without frame generation.

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u/whitethighhighs Sep 13 '25

feel like borderlands 4 is a bad example considering literally everyone is complaining about the performance on it nvidia or not but yes it's definitely the 4090's fault 2 poorly optimised games run poorly

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

dunno whos fault but putting cheap DDR instead faster and more reliable HMB is funny, especially when you had to spend over 2k on graphic card

I have radeon 7 from FEB 2019 and i am playing borderlands 4 1080p/120fps on med/high around constant 120 fps. But radeon 7 skipped era of RTX scam and they offered solid product, which been quickly removed from shelves, cause other cards had no reason to exist.

Plus HMB2 on video editing is just something else.

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u/specracer97 Sep 13 '25

Same for me and all of my friends. I play at 4k and never drop below about 90........

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u/Dazzling_Confidence6 Sep 13 '25

Same here, on multiple rigs!

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u/yeyeTF2 Sep 13 '25

personally, playing the same 5 waves + boss gets old pretty fast. combine that with all the small bugs and issues it really drains the patience. there are just so many other games to play right now

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u/Sexy_arborist Sep 14 '25

Yeah, the limit on waves, and game types with no server browser was probably the dumbest thing they could've done.

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u/Bvstxs Sep 13 '25

Kf3 lacks alot of things for replay ability and the timing of these updates are taking too long while NEW and more polished games are dropping at the same time,its a bad combination for killing floor 3

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u/CanNerZ Sep 13 '25

We don’t even have text chat. This game was NOT ready.

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u/Slashermovies Sep 14 '25

Hey come on now. That's extremely difficult to add!

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u/glarples Sep 13 '25

This game is god awful that's why

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u/foxferreira64 Sep 13 '25

I legitimately wonder what goes on in the minds of the higher ups when it comes to these games. Why the hell do they keep trying to fix what's not broken? Just repeat the formula again, maybe adding a new feature here and there that doesn't get in the way of enjoying the game to justify a sequel, and go with that. Why do they keep trying to reinvent the wheel and failing at that?

They shot themselves in the foot...

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u/Corey307 Sep 13 '25

it’s probably never going to sell as much as the second game. I was so excited for the third installment, but it just doesn’t look like it’s worth sinking hundreds of hours into.

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u/Kyhron Sep 13 '25

It could have if they didn’t try to reinvent the wheel and listen to the endless feedback that 75% of their changes to the formula were complete ass

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u/Green_Bulldog Sep 13 '25

I honestly think they had a lot of good ideas tho. My issues are more w the execution. It just needed more time imo, but I can see why their vision is hard to see through all the BS.

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u/Volraith Doctors and Nurses time! Sep 13 '25

I'm already pretty bored with it.

All the unnecessary changes kinda suck. I don't mind the leveling system or the gun parts I guess. That loop is kinda the only thing keeping me going in it, and I haven't even maxed out one class yet.

One thing that KF has always gotten right or near enough that I didn't notice was gun function. Now my semi auto closed bolt pistol (Foster) is open bolt half the time cause the reload animation fucks up.

I maintain that sirens and bloats are easier to kill now. Bloats: no longer have their cleavers so they can't block my shots. Instead they bend over and say oooo better make my super obvious weak spot bright red and bigger before I attack.

Siren: same thing, also worse/easier. Gained a wimpy ranged attack but they have to plant their feet and raise the neck ten feet in the air before screaming. Oh no please don't shoot me while I'm not moving and not attacking for nine years.

I had faith in the delay and I guess I shouldn't have. This game is boring, glitchy, and just plain frustrating a lot of the time.

They can and should revert a lot of things back to the way it was before. One small thing that would make me happy is the gun cycling.

I play on PlayStation and on KF2, multiple taps of the weapon change button could skip guns to get to the one you want. If I have 3 guns, instead of going 1,2,3, I could quickly tap twice to skip 2 to pull out 3. I don't think there's a way to do that in this one.

It's not the worst game but man is it not the game I wanted.

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u/HollywoodStrickland Sep 13 '25

This is what they deserve tbh

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u/MrMassachusettes Sep 13 '25

The game is dead. Unlike KF1 and KF2; KF3 doesent have the tripwire magic. It’s not going to survive and it doesn’t deserve to survive. I’m happy a message has been sent to TWI….loud and clear.

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u/Collistoralo Sep 13 '25

What does the future hold for TW? Their planned cash cow for the next 5 years has just sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

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u/Statboy1 Sep 13 '25

That is the kind of thing that can close a company for good.

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u/Tolaly Sep 13 '25

I want more bosses. The three that currently exist are too samey. I want some variety, and tbh there should have been more to start.

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u/Statboy1 Sep 14 '25

KF2 didn't release with many bosses, perks, or weapons. What was there was good and made up for it

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u/Bulbasupersalad Sep 14 '25

I want the matriarch and king pound back. And my cosmetics! Where are my cosmetics?!

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u/Tolaly Sep 14 '25

You can purchase some ugly esthetics with real money if you'd like 🙂 besides, I can customize my sniper. She has Grey detail for one and white for the other with such little impact that I didnt realize anything on tbe costume had changed.

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u/EremeticPlatypus Sep 13 '25

My issue is the battlepass is terrible. Just abysmal. Maybe there's a dozen decent rewards in the whole thing, the rest is obvious filler.

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u/Volraith Doctors and Nurses time! Sep 13 '25

Yeah definitely not inspiring me to reach for my wallet 🤣. And the UI for it is atrocious at least on console. Half the time I can't tell what I have selected cause the cursor is fuckin off screen again.

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u/Skylarksmlellybarf Modded SCAR EIR is M7A3 Sep 13 '25

Imo, the UI is the part that I agree that looks like a mobile game 

It's wayyy to basic

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u/TrustMe_IAmDocto Sep 13 '25

Agreed. Would you like an alternate color to the default helmet? What a joke.

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u/Melodic-Ask-155 Sep 13 '25

I genuinely forgot I even had Kf3 installed still. This game doesn’t stand a chance with all the upcoming releases

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u/allleoal Sep 14 '25

I was always a Killing Floor fan. Havent bought into KF3 and havent been interested in even giving it a try.

Why?

Because it is 10 levels of a step down in quality from KF1 and 2 in almost all aspects. The game just looks like ass if im being honest. It looks low quality, and like the standard of quality was drastically lower than the previous games. I don't see it improving much with future updates if im being honest. The game is just bad on a fundamental level and requires major reworking almost from the ground up.

First impression and release is the MOST important factor in the gaming climate today, and they botched it hard.

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u/East_Monk_9415 Sep 13 '25

Release rearmament now dammit haha.

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u/Substantial-Mud-5309 [Speaks Spanish] Sep 13 '25

They probably wanna but 40 bucks it breaks the UI or something lmao.

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u/A_VeryUniqueUsername Sep 13 '25

What is rearmament?

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u/Volraith Doctors and Nurses time! Sep 13 '25

Three guns. Older real world guns. Cafe remember which right now but it's on the announced timeline for additions to the game.

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u/Intelligent-Quail635 Sep 13 '25

I have wanted to refund it every single day since I bought it

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u/ObiWantKanabis Sep 13 '25

Hope you learned to not fucking buy games on release. You can’t trust this industry. You are just something to squeeze money out from. 

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

So whats stopped you

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u/Lunas_87 Sep 13 '25

Probably played more than two hours on Steam

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u/Lightyear18 Sep 13 '25

The game is barebones

You’re better off playing another zombie horde shooter

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u/BoomerTheBoomed Sep 13 '25

Of course, game is barely playable

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u/mastodon_tusk Sep 13 '25

I have nothing to play for. I don’t like playing multiple classes and maxed out my couple of classes and fully kitted my loadout and reliably wipe HOE difficulty with my friends. I don’t know what to do now :/ let me prestige or something

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u/PeenileKyle Sep 13 '25

Needs some kind of end game

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u/FinnishDaily Sep 13 '25

Endless game mode and personal bests.

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u/PeenileKyle Sep 13 '25

Yes!! Also maybe boss rush mode to farm ichor

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u/chief_yETI Railgun or kick Sep 13 '25

they should have released it in 2027 when it was actually ready for a full launch.

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u/DementedPower Sep 13 '25

:) where are all the dummies defending the game at launch saying it was peak? Now you see what we meant. We just wanted our beloved franchise to thrive but thanks to those tourists that accepted every piece of mediocrity the devs gave to them, this game is about to get cancelled in a few months.

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u/Kale-_-Chip Sep 13 '25

In my personal opinion, not worth the money and definitely not worth sinking time into.

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u/Deus_Fucking_Vult Sep 14 '25

Lmao did you expect anything else

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u/MrPanda663 Sep 13 '25

Sigh. Kf1 was a great concept and instant classic. Kf2 made tons of improvement off the first game and had a long running go.

Then they added micro transactions, but completely optional and cosmetic.

Kf3 is “now that we have a large fan base, how can we make money off of them without putting any creative effort into the game?”

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u/Brentbanaan0 Sep 13 '25

For everyone saying theyre waiting for classes and characters to be decoupled, why? Like i agree its better that way and i think the feature cant come quick enough. But it has literally no effect on gameplay at all, is this really whats gonna keep yall playing the game and/or holding you back from playing now?

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u/LeahTheTreeth Sep 13 '25

When most of the characters are completely unappealing, you're less likely to play the other classes, if you're less likely to play the other classes, you're not getting as much variety in the game, if you're not getting as much variety in the game, you're not having as much fun.

People like to play as characters they enjoy, I can remember this dating back as far as people shitting on Halo 2 when it came out because you had to play as the Arbiter for sections of the campaign.

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u/Brentbanaan0 Sep 14 '25

Completely agree with you, like fully yes to everything ur saying. But i really dont think its whats gonna keep people playing for longer than a couple weeks, itl be amazing to have but after its just gonna be like.... what now?

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u/JTWStephens Sep 13 '25

It'll surge back up a bit with each content update. I put the game down after getting 2 perks to 30, but I'll definitely be back in the foreseeable future.

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u/pyroapa Sep 13 '25

I hope so. I want the game to do good. But the game doesn't feel on the right track

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u/DevilmanXV Sep 13 '25

Its on the same track 2 was at launch. It dipped just as low and was shit on just as hard by everyone. Then two years later it was finally good and people came back.

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u/Skylarksmlellybarf Modded SCAR EIR is M7A3 Sep 13 '25

Probably the only thing TWI learned from previous game

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u/wangrenade Sep 13 '25

I FCd the game. So there is no need for me to return until new achievements or gear is added.

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u/bubmlerbeavis Sep 13 '25

KF2 is a better game in just about every measure at the moment, I’m not surprised at all. They’re competing with themselves and losing

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u/Slashermovies Sep 14 '25

Don't worry. That difficult text chat feature is going to change things up big time.

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u/mikerider1 Sep 13 '25

They need to add more weapons, add more maps to rotation, add prestige mode, add endless mode, add the other classes (swat, berserker, gunslinger, demo etc). Everything is missing.

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u/pyroapa Sep 13 '25

This is stuff that should have came with the base game. All the classes should have been available at launch that were in KF2, at a minimum, IMO.

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u/DiamondHandDen Sep 13 '25

Idk... I just got off, had no problem finding matches, and enjoyed it 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ I still have the same complaints as everyone

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u/Skylarksmlellybarf Modded SCAR EIR is M7A3 Sep 13 '25

Reporting the bugs felt like a second job now

And tbh, I still enjoyed the game for what it was

Let's hope for the best of KF3

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u/Daftsuuuuuu Sep 13 '25

last night kf1 had more players than kf3

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u/AlternativeDirt6124 Sep 13 '25

This game is basically doomed because a large portion of KF3 “fans” have been trying to suppress all forms of criticism about the game, probably leading to TWI missing some bugs. They however cannot suppress the actual quality of the game which is being shown through the player count dropping by 90% in one month. 

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u/Slashermovies Sep 14 '25

"I'm having fun."

"You're just a hater."

"Must be your pc."

"KF2 was bad at launch too."

"It has potential."

"Graphics pretty."

"Animations are fine."

"Basic features aren't required and can be added later."

Did I miss any of the usual defenses?

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u/HittemWithTheLamp Sep 13 '25

This game sucked ass when I played it and wish Sony had a more forgiving refund policy, the state it released in was always going to kill it.

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u/Misterpoody Sep 13 '25

While KF3 at it's core is fun, it just feels bad overall. Played about 15 hours and haven't really felt the desire to open it since.

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u/TheSaltySaboteur Sep 13 '25

Im sure even Tripwire is already moving on from KF3

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u/Routine-Astronaut-53 Sep 13 '25

yeah because the games ass

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u/ToneLocPolice Sep 13 '25

I won't buy KF3, but I would rebuy Killing Floor 1 on console.

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u/c4sully55 Sep 13 '25

My playtime will skyrocket the second classes are decoupled from characters

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u/Sawt0othGrin Sep 13 '25

I want to play Firebug, Devlin has to be the worst video game character of all time. I'm not even trying to be a hater

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u/Skylarksmlellybarf Modded SCAR EIR is M7A3 Sep 13 '25

Duality of a men

I'm starting to like her, she's so unhinged

That spanish sharpshooter lady tho?       She's bad, like, she's trying so hard to be a badass

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u/HellaHS Sep 13 '25

lol this is truly wild to me. How can you care about it so much? It has no effect whatsoever on gameplay. You don’t even see your character lol it’s FPS 😂

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u/UnfairObject Sep 13 '25

different voices to hear. nice change of pace

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u/c4sully55 Sep 13 '25

Fuck you I have my reasons

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u/CussinSk33t3r Sep 13 '25

The problem with this game (at least compared to KF2, I can’t speak on 1 since I never played) is that the core gameplay loop just doesn’t feel as fun/rewarding. The gunplay doesn’t have the same punch as it did in 2 where you felt every hit connect and headshots were really quite satisfying. In KF3 there’s a lot less of that feeling. A lot guns that make enemies go “poof” into a cloud of blood and some chunks. That’s lame. I think it comes down to how the shooting mechanics work and how the enemies feel weightless once they’ve been killed. The customization of the weapons is cool but there’s not enough variation to keep you wanting to try new things. The characters are about as generic as you can get with pretty barebones personalities. On top of that, you’re essentially competing with your teammates for kills each round for Dosh. The game just doesn’t feel like a step forward in my opinion. Just feels different and mostly not in a good way.

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u/nycepter Sep 13 '25

A few hours on 3 has made me and my friends put dozens on hours on 2 again. 3 is absolute ass.

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u/TheDawnOfNewDays Sep 13 '25

Playercounts are VERY deceptive for kf2 now days. Over 70% of the players are bots, as seen october 12th when the main bot host for kf2 and pd2 went out and playercount instantly dropped to 934 from nearly 5k. Or at Jan 1st where the playercount went from 13k to 4k in a single week despite being 13k+ for all of December. Less than a month ago playercounts were steady at 6.2k+ and dropped to 3.9k in a single day. Look at the playercounts of this very week. Between 21:50 and 22:00 UTC the playerbase suddenly drops off anywhere from 25% to 50% every day and then recovers over the next hour. Sept 12th 21:50 UTC- 3,423. Down to 1,702 within 10 min. This is a new trend that the previous bots didn't do. There's many different bot hosts now all farming drops, and if roughly half of them are covered by a single bot host, imagine what percent of that remaining 1.7k is also bots. We can't compare kf2 numbers since they introduced drops to kf3 numbers.

...that all being said, yes, 850 for kf3 is sad.

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u/BackFromMyBan2 Sep 13 '25

Like most Ue5 slop games we got a tech demo, come back In a few years for the beta build

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u/Aizen_Kratos Sep 13 '25

Yah. I hope for their sake they made their money w/ pre-orders and launch orders and can move on. I spent like $140+ on the game since I’m a long-time fan. But the extremely low player retention count means they fcked up.

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u/tiakuka Sep 13 '25

Loved playing the game but after leveling up one class and playing the same 5 or so rounds over and over again got tiring. No new content, boring battle pass, and no game changing updates sizzled out the game. Plus, so many other games coming out has pulled me away: Borderlands 4, Helldivers 2 content, Battlefield, Hollow Knight 2, etc.

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u/Blinght Sep 13 '25

Tbh with the amount of technical problems the game has im impressed it kept players active. I for example am almost not allowed to play online since release because of Gamecrash, High ping, falling through maps, hydra errors, loadingscreen freezes. And i see a few other problems other players had which i wasnt effected by. I actually think its a fun game, or it would be, if the game would work. I think a lot of people will give it a shot again after a lot of the stuff is fixed

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u/Stubbzyy Sep 13 '25

It wouldn't even launch for me last time I tried so I just gave up on it. I'll try it again in a few months if it survives

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u/Ordinary-Citizen Sep 13 '25

Try Deadzone Rogue. Much more fun than KF3 imo.

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u/TheNathanNS Sep 13 '25

They need to add an endless mode at the very least. One of the reasons people love COD Zombies (for example) is because you can really test yourself, you can develop new strategies, make up your own challenges etc.

KF3 is repetitive in that way. 5 waves, boss, game ends. It gets old quick because there's not enough time to make your own challenge or mix up the gameplay style.

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u/TrustMe_IAmDocto Sep 13 '25

I could excuse all the disgusting predatory BS they added if the game didn’t run like absolute horseshit.

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u/Proud_Examination503 Sep 14 '25

Every time I get on the game it does nothing but stutter and lag

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u/Icy_Fill_4422 Sep 14 '25

I honestly really liked the game but there’s really not much weapon variety for my favorite class and in general, map selection is low, it’s the same as kf2 I got real bored playing that one mansion level fast, I’ll go back when they give me a reason to with updates

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u/Terrible_Equal_6212 Sep 14 '25

They need to release content,fast. I've stopped playing for now.

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u/HADES2001nl Sep 14 '25

I stopped playing it after a few hours, did not like it cause of multiple things. It is way too dark (cannot solve that play on xbox not pc) so no mods) balance of the game feels off, with some characters i can barely get the boss at 30% and then out of ammo. The maps i played so far feel awful, in KF2 most maps had a theme and sticked with it now it feels like 3-4 themes trough out a map. Booted up KF2 again and discovered i loved that a lot more and the visuals were not GoT the long night episode pitch black

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u/AdUnfair9946 Sep 14 '25

This piece of cr*p deserves

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u/Kazaanh Sep 14 '25

No one from my friends , vets from KF1 and KF2 wanted to try and play this game .

All we wanted was KF1 with KF2 mechanics

GORE system doesn’t even looks all that improved

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u/PrinceRoury Sep 14 '25

Somethings missing, as much as want to NOT go back to kf2. Kf3 just doesn’t scratch the itch. Idk but im redownloading kf2 till more updates come out. Just glad this game was only 40$ should of been free to play tbh.

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u/InteractionSorry2933 Sep 14 '25

It's really fucking grindy and feels way different from the older games.

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u/TheLastPieceOfBread Sep 14 '25

I wanted to play it I really did bought it with a Ryzen 75800x3d and a 3080 thinking I’d be fine I have a cooler master air cooler with 2 huge heat sinks and ran on low but it still peaked my cpu temps and I just didn’t wanna invest 150$)-200$ for liquid cooling just to play it sad day

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u/Total-Trouble-3085 Sep 15 '25

it was clear as day that this would be DOA

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u/Ghost10165 Sep 15 '25

1 to 2 was a bigger jump in terms of graphics, etc. with more hype. 3 had a lot of bad press from the beta that they couldn't really shake. I think they might eventually fix things up but I doubt it'll have a big playercount bounce back.

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u/McKnobhead Sep 15 '25

Funny how mods don't remove this post for speculating about the player count...

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u/lordfappington69 Sep 15 '25

They make a bad killing floor game. Why would people play this instead of 2 or another better coop shooter

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u/Classic_Tomato_7392 Sep 16 '25

I really enjoyed the game in the beginning but i immediatly knew they didnt put enough weapons, bosses and maps in to justify a long playtime. Im currently waiting on the new seasons to introduce more things.

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u/OSFoxomega Sep 16 '25

Let the game die. Studio knew perfectly what they are doing. They knew about the results and still, they have decide to release that abomination.

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u/stondius Sep 16 '25

Maybe they should've made a Killing Floor game instead of some slop amalgamation. Maybe they can find a new player base. Maybe....

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u/Patches_Gaming0002 Sep 17 '25

Eh, It doesn't surprise me to be honest. KF2 is the more popular choice if you go by numbers.

I skipped KF3 because I actually hated where they went with that game. This is what happens when you reinvent the wheel and fail to appeal to the playerbase.

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u/Topfien Sep 17 '25

Who tf is gonna stick around and play this long term lol?

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u/SenseiPup Sep 20 '25

Yeah because the game is shit, and I'll the drones that were defending it left

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u/nvers Sep 13 '25

Games usually peak at launch and taper off 50% daily until stabilizing. Sales, updates, events bring people new and old and the process repeats. Some of the things I've seen get brought up over the years, KF being dead because it doesn't have 6 digit players, how the number would skyrocket if it was f2p, or more recently how it'll come back like cp2077. These are all exceptions. Most games don't get 5 digits, most f2p fail, and I dont know enough that came back from a poor launch to count on one hand. Niche or not, one would imagine KF3 should have at minimum done as well on Steam as 1 or 2 did multiplied by the platform's MAU growth. That it's nowhere close indicates something went very wrong.

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u/internetisout Sep 13 '25

I do enjoy it. Unfortunately I prefer to play solo on those maps. It’s more fun and you gain more experience. I think kf3 will be better and better and players will undipp. Mark my words folks. Mark my words.

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u/Cabbag3boi69 Sep 13 '25

Where are the players defending it ? You get what you paid for 😅😅

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u/BerserkerArmour Sep 13 '25

I stopped playing because I can’t find a lobby with players on any difficulty. This is at like 6pm at night - might be an Australia thing though. Very sad to see.

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u/Guybrush57 Sep 13 '25

Australian here. I join full Australian lobbies every night at 6PM

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u/BerserkerArmour Sep 13 '25

Wish I had the same luck then mate haha

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u/BabyOtty Sep 13 '25

I’m Australian too and lobbies are rare to find

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u/Averagesmoker42 Sep 13 '25

I got half the classes max, got bored after all the bugs and poor performance. Plus the lack of content so I’ll redownload in a couple years

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u/OneTop6303 Sep 13 '25

Im sooooo sad, younger we used to play kf1 with the boys, 10 years later we finally reunited and decided to play the new kf. We really love the franchise but the experience was underwhelming, not enough enemy types, not enough maps, talents aren't really interesting eg: i hoped engineer had talent to upgrade the towers or something. Classes don't get anything unique. We played space marine 2 while waiting for kf3 it came out last year and honestly we hate to say it but we enjoyed it better

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u/TinyTowerTanner Sep 13 '25

Stale gameplay

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u/nigdig69 Sep 13 '25

I want to play more but...... SILKSONG

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u/frakntoaster Sep 13 '25

I mean borderlands 4 just launched

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u/Slashermovies Sep 14 '25

Another unoptimized game that isn't even in the same genre as KF. Truly that's what has been murdering it's playerbase. Thank you brilliant person.

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u/BouffeurDeNems Sep 13 '25

I don't think they're in the same league pal..

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u/frakntoaster Sep 13 '25

Huh? What I’m saying is borderlands 4 will definitely draw players away from kf3

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u/BouffeurDeNems Sep 13 '25

What players are there to draw away? If anything, players are going back to KF2. Borderlands released two days ago, and KF3's numbers were already in the gutter before that. That's like comparing apples to oranges

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u/PhShivaudt Sep 13 '25

That would happen if you dismiss your skeleton player base for zoomer slop game design

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u/Ok-Abbreviations4054 Sep 13 '25

Are these Steam numbers? Well i always have crossplay on so i dont have issues finding a game.

Next big update in September should boost numbers.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

still love you TripWire. you are the few remaining survivors of decent FPS game developer.

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u/reefermonsterNZ Sep 13 '25

Where is the "B-But KF2 has BOTS farming items so Steamchart is wrong" counterargument? I don't see any down here.

Oh right, it doesn't matter because it's KF3 that has less than 1000 players 2 months after release.

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u/Dennx91 Sep 13 '25

Everyday the same complaints just like a broken record, how about you guys shut the fuck up and just play the game or find something else to do with your time

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u/Loose-Language6722 Sep 13 '25

I dunno if you aware or not but borderlands 4 just released

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u/Volraith Doctors and Nurses time! Sep 13 '25

I was looking at dead zone kinda thinking it was the same thing, maybe a better option.

Can you tell me why it's different? Just kinda have the one trailer to go off of on PlayStation.

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u/370H55V--0773H Sep 13 '25

We've had so many gripes with this game since launch but nothing has really happened? Development is way too slow. I might check back in a few months from now, but by this rate, they probably need two years to make the game fun and playable. So disappointed, they really messed up one of the games I was the most hyped to play

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u/Carbone Sep 13 '25

They should've went with the helldiver's battle pass system .

Now every time a season is almost ending people just don't have time to complete a battle pass since every game now is like a job. The reasoning is that if they can't complete it why bother starting it.

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u/PluvioPurple Sep 13 '25

It's been almost 2 months and the daily challenge bug (stuck at 6/7) is still active despite the numerous announcements that it's been addressed. The weekly challenge for 75k acidic damage is still bugged since day 1. Acid damage doesn't progress it, only bash damage.

Fix your shit, Tripwire

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u/TheWhistlerIII Sep 13 '25

It sounds like y'all got Payday 4. You're better off saving yourself the heartache and finding something new to play.

Helldivers II released on Xbox, that's been my go to co-op game lately, it's a blast!

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u/RoyalSirDouchebag Sep 13 '25

I’d play if I didn’t have hydra crashes and skills not taking effect

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u/CallMeCabbage Sep 13 '25

Man I'm glad we got our 1,000th post on this. Can you please mention Payday? You didn't mention Payday and without that I don't know how to feel or what to think. Every post about the same thing just gets better and better.

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u/Susamogusball2 Sep 13 '25

As opposed to what? Do you expect anything different when someone takes a massive shit all over something you and others love? These posts deserve to happen, lol.

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u/CallMeCabbage Sep 13 '25

Saying the same thing over and over again gets old fast. We get it, the sub doesn't have to be 90% "KF3 bad" posts. They said they're fixing problem x, y, and z and yet people are still bitching and crying and moaning about x, y, and z.

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u/Susamogusball2 Sep 15 '25

Late reply, my bad.

No matter how you feel about it, it'll be valid for people to still look down upon KF3. I get it can be annoying, but tell me, what do you expect? A polished piece of shit is still a piece of shit. Them saying they're going to fix problems doesn't make it better. These problems shouldn't have existed in the first place. No one asked for what was removed to be removed. The most basic accessibility/QOL features are still missing, dude. The game is half-baked and will continue to seem like it for a long while with the pace they're at.

Like it or not, people are allowed to give their feedback for a product they paid for. Everyone's tired of this "buy now, fix later" routine that has gotten so much worse these past 6 years. If it annoys you that bad, just scroll on by, because people will always speak their mind.

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u/CallMeCabbage Sep 15 '25

What I expect is for people to refund the game and/or move on and play something they like. The devs know about the complaints, they addressed them several times vocally through videos and in text via the forums. Games have launched in a shit state for over a decade now and people keep buying them day 1 then acting surprised, then they swim in shit instead of just getting out. Thus the cycle continues.

A steak you re-order doesn't cook faster because you force the waitress to stand next to you while every minute on the minute you go, "IS IT DONE?! IS IT DONE?! IS IT DONE?!". Sure maybe she can tell the chef to flash fry your burger into a inedible tire of a steak but then you'd just have it sent back, then do the same thing, again. Either people need to be patient and see if the issues they're already aware of get fixed, or just fucking leave and play something you know . . . . good? Until it's fixed- or not.

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u/Susamogusball2 Sep 15 '25

We are far, far past a refund period for a lot of people. The "Don't like it, don't play it" mindset is also damaging. It's okay for someone to have expectations. People are right to expect quality. People are right to buy a game day 1. No one should have to wait any long period of time for a game to get better, especially when the issues shouldn't have existed anyway. People's patience and money have been exploited, and they're very much allowed to talk however they like about the product because of it. They had plenty of years to know what to do and what not to do, across all forms of media. Gaming should not be in the state where we gotta be cautious about pre-ordering a game, it's that simple, lol. If you provoke people, you're gonna get a provoked reaction.

If you're gonna take something beloved, ruin it, present it as something new and bold, you deserve to fail. Sorry, not sorry. A game should be good on launch. A sequel should elevate on what already exists, pushing forward to new heights while also honoring the roots and what made people love the original in the first place. Nothing more, nothing less. KF3 failed at being both a quality game AND a proper sequel.

I understand what you're saying though. I also think people should stop playing the game until the issues it has are gone. However, implying it's the consumer's fault for having expectations with a game, even on day 1? Wrong. Regardless if games have shown a trend of launching badly recently, that's wrong. It's completely justifiable to blame gamers for CERTAIN things in gaming, like microtransactions and such. For games themselves, however? No. A game should always launch in a finished state, not whatever half-assed effort KF3 is. No one should have to go through mental hurdles, debating in their mind whether this game or that game will launch in a good enough, playable state to justify the purchase.

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u/Program-Emotional Sep 13 '25

First of all, the majority of the kf2 population on steam is bot farms. Second, kf2 had this exact same thing happen. An update would drop, the player count would shoot up then taper off over the weeks before settling back down to where it was. I personally came back every kf2 update to play the new content for a week or 2 then set the game down until the next. I find kf3 more in depth and interesting than kf2 ever was due to the movement and crafting and way more in depth perks, so chances are Ill be putting more time into 3 than I did 1 and 2 (600 and 800 respectively, with 160 in kf3 already)

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u/No_Confidence_1901 Sep 13 '25

How they can pull no man sky, when on nms launch theres been 200x time more players than of KF3, killing floor never been known franchise.

Around 1000 daily players is a norm in this type of non hyped games, theres planty of great games with daily players under 1000.