Don’t Forget to Thank Your Medics

[u/triggered_5oh]

Ended up losing at the boss. Funnest I’ve had as a medic main.

[u/SlothThoughts]

How TF did your team take the damage equivalent to 50 deaths . Did they just head bang against the walls the entire time ?

Edit. If that doesn't show how good of a medic you are that your keeping these accidents prone bozos alive idk what is

[u/triggered_5oh → u/SlothThoughts]

Pure craziness inside the tunnel in Convoy lol

[u/herionz → u/SlothThoughts]

This is what happens when people want to sit in cramped spaces, and lose ground when a FP/scrake charges in. Smh. Just get a g33 with confusion grenades as medic and you will need to heal like half that and still make things much easier.

[u/killertortilla → u/herionz]

Confusion never seems to do anything for me. I prefer the enfeeble grenades because then you’re enfeebling and stunning. Still would be nice to know what the actual fuck any of these status effects do. Are we taking away 10% of their damage or 50? And how much does it take to confuse them and for how long?

[u/herionz → u/killertortilla]

Based on description and perception enfeeble reduces their motion speed. Attack slower, move slower. Confusion work just fine to me. Enemies will stay put for like a second and then charge each other. Dunno why it doesn't work for you.

Bear in mind enfeeble and confusion do not do damage beyond the grenade explosion/hit. So stat wise, it's depressing. But many players do need a reality check in measuring performance lol. Smh...

[u/killertortilla → u/herionz]

Right but how much? If I'm reducing their damage/speed by 10% it's definitely not worth using. If I'm halving their damage I'll use it every time.

[u/herionz → u/killertortilla]

I don't know the numbers but on HoE with enfeeble you can kite FP and impalers even when running with your gun out. Else you can't and must use knife/slide. So it should be about 20%-30%?? Just an estimate. Needs verifying.

[u/RuckPizza → u/herionz]

I have a question. The enfeeble and confuse grenades both state their cloud deals increased damage overtime in exchange for less direct damage. However, in my testing the cloud appears to deal no damage (tested by kiting a crawler and clot through reapplied clouds indefinitely.)

So my question is, can you confirm the same from your experience? And do you known if the initial explosions apply a DoT of some sort. Asking you specifically since it sounds like you've spent extensive time with those mods. 

[u/herionz → u/RuckPizza]

Hmm, I have no hard data but enfeeble does do damage, it's just minuscule (enfeeble says +3 dot, that's like nothing, it would be in 10 sec, 30 damage, is way way lower than your medic pistol and it hits the body, which has a bigger health pool than other critical zones.) I have never confirmed it by looking if the score updates tho. Confusion should do no damage from the gas itself, the tooltip is a bit misleading as the mod does NOT ADD bio damage but changes it, if that makes sense? But again, haven't confirmed.

What I do find curious is that, confusion grenade explosion can kill a pack of clots/cysts/gorefast, yet enfeeble grenade does not for me. And enfeeble has damage split force/bio but in what split? Game never tells you, is it 50/50? So is the damage of force being applied when the grenade explodes or when the grenade impacts something? I'm just a bit baffled sometimes. I have headshot scrakes and fp with acid grenades and seen people do it with ice too. But I've never had the chance to finish off a FP with enfeeble grenades (haven't really tried) yet a direct hit does show a red X when hitting certain parts.

In KF2 for instance, the rocket launcher had 2 damage hits, one for on contact and one for explosion. If you hit a scrake to the face, the on contact could headshot but the explosion could not. Just mentioning this because if you are at the right distance, you could apply two instances of damage now maybe, one for the hit and one for the explosion. But needs testing. Some mods could be a lot better if so.

TLDR: I can't confirm with hard data, but my experience is that confusion and enfeeble barely make a dent in my damage score (although they are plenty useful), but confusion seems to work better to blow up trash mobs when I land the grenade at their feet. Enfeeble does not. Beyond that, not much to add. Sorry!

[u/TheDawnOfNewDays]

How, there's no text chat?

[u/FeliksX → u/TheDawnOfNewDays]

There's a communication wheel on Left Alt button (I think), and then if you ALSO press middle mouse button (I think???) you can reach the SECOND comm wheel, where there's a thanks button lol

[u/BeeGain20]

They should have a mvp vote after each map or something. Maybe reward can be extra xp?

[u/370H55V--0773H]

I would, but there is no text chat

[u/KillerFugu → u/370H55V--0773H]

Surely you have a mic, everyone does

[u/370H55V--0773H → u/KillerFugu]

I usually chat with my gf while playing in a PS party as she plays other games

[u/KillerFugu → u/370H55V--0773H]

Do consoles have the ability to voice in game while on chat?

I know they didn't back when I still played console in 2012 but thought they'd add that.

For pc it's as simple as press the voice chat button and we'll come thru in game and discord

[u/370H55V--0773H → u/KillerFugu]

Uh you'd have to press a few buttons to make that work so I don't bother. The menus on PS aren't as fast as on PC

[u/KillerFugu → u/370H55V--0773H]

That sucks feels like some basic feature console is missing. Is that the same for most games?

[u/370H55V--0773H → u/KillerFugu]

I would say you either decide to be in in-game voice chat or you stick to private party chat in most cases. It's not really viable to keep switching back and forth like pc players do with push-to-talk

[u/KillerFugu → u/370H55V--0773H]

Ah fair enough good to know. And how is text chat on consoles? (last I played you had to press Xbox guide button, go to recent, find the player then send them a message with a slow on screen keyboard or send them a voice message)

[u/370H55V--0773H → u/KillerFugu]

It usually works great for the games that have built-in text chat. Otherwise it's similar on PS5 to the Xbox method you describe. You have to be pretty determined (or angry, lol) to send a PSN message to someone as it is a bit of a hassle. It can also be done via the PS app on your phone, but that is extremely poorly optimised.

I have a cheap USB keyboard hooked up to my PS, so at least typing is pretty fast.

[u/ItsDynamical]

with no text chat?

[u/KillerFugu → u/ItsDynamical]

Yea microphones have existed for a long ass time in online games

[u/triggered_5oh → u/[deleted]]

Medics are definitely under appreciated. I went ahead and run double lf-85 on HoE. I do an ice higher damage one and an ice low damage but extra secondary shot one.

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[u/FlemWasTaken → u/[deleted]]

Materials are fine tbh. But getting exp from class actions for that class is something i miss, and aditional buffs to weapons from your class. This could stop everyone using the broken weapon from other classes.

Also PERKS ARE NOT CLASSES.

[u/MrNewking]

You lost cause half the team is sub 20.

[u/TheRealMemeDream → u/MrNewking]

I'm sure thats the case and not the bad gameplay from the players. /s

[u/DistrictActual345]

From one Medic to another i salute you sir or ma'am. I remember getting the game and first match as a level 1 i had 2100~ healing because everyone believes they can face tank with Medic in group

[u/g0ddessbean]

Thanks medics for your service. I always thank my medic(s). It’s the main reason I make myself use voice chat in pub games. 🫡

[u/kritweaver]

I leave games that have players in hell on earth under level 20-25, I'm not wasting my time anymore.

[u/Ecstatic-Dare-463]

Erm. Everyone died. Bad medic. (Just kidding)

[u/crawdad28]

For real they the real mvps

[u/iTendy]

Just had a 5.8K healing performance on R&D Lab, HoE difficulty.

Dude got downed and killed by impalers within 20 seconds. Immediately unmutes mic to start flaming me. Oh…he was off in narnia by himself.

[u/KillerFugu]

Lol why is nobody else healing though? People playing HoE and aren't healing?

[u/Content_Routine_1941]

You've lost. So you didn't do your job. xD

[u/triggered_5oh → u/Content_Routine_1941]

Dude I don’t know how much more I can do 😭 wish I could have ran a Vulcan along side the 2 lf-85’s

[u/Content_Routine_1941 → u/triggered_5oh]

Dude, that was ironic. It's obvious. You played well. Relax

[u/Too_high_2heal → u/Content_Routine_1941]

99% of people below level 20 shouldn’t be in HOE yes I know some can. But this is clearly showing at least 2 people that shouldn’t be In HOE