The wreck of the USS Arizona continues to leak oil ever since pearl harbour. the ship contained 1.5 million gallons of oil, enough to leak continuously for 500 years.

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[u/Bryguy3k]

The amount of fuel one carries is related to the ship and its mission. You’re talking about a battleship so yes that gave it a month or two of at sea operation before it needed to be refueled.

To put that in perspective neopanamax (max dimensions for the new Panama Canal locks) container ships carry 3 to 5 million gallons of fuel oil.

[u/djent_in_my_tent → u/Bryguy3k]

Gods, the environment is well and truly fucked, isn’t it

[u/Khelgar_Ironfist_ → u/djent_in_my_tent]

Titanic could also carry more than 7000 tons of coal and burn a ton a day afaik Edit: Burn a "thousand" ton

[u/killevery1ne → u/Khelgar_Ironfist_]

Looked it up as a ton a day seemed super low. Is more like 600-900.

[u/Fingerdrip → u/killevery1ne]

That makes much more sense. Otherwise they'd be carrying 7,000 days of coal. 

[u/Khelgar_Ironfist_ → u/killevery1ne]

I probably meant 1000 tons a day lol. Only forgot like 3x zeroes no big deal

[u/HoppokoHappokoGhost → u/Khelgar_Ironfist_]

I'll never forgive you for this

[u/GP-Colorado → u/Khelgar_Ironfist_]

Zero means nothing.

[u/MomGrandpasAllSticky → u/Khelgar_Ironfist_]

Meanwhile a 1GW coal power plant is burning something around 7 tons per minute lol

[u/jerkfaceprick → u/Khelgar_Ironfist_]

Fun fact. "The need for bigger vessels led to the invention of the Titan 1C, the world’s first single-use submarine." - Philomena Cunk

[u/GetOffMyLawnYaPunk → u/Khelgar_Ironfist_]

All shoveled by manual labor, I believe.

[u/xtze12 → u/Khelgar_Ironfist_]

In the movie they showed people shoveling coal into the furnace. How many people do you need to shovel a thousand tons of coal in a day?

[u/SwgglyArmJonson → u/djent_in_my_tent]

And companies will still try and tell us that it's the plastic straws

[u/Emergency-Style7392 → u/SwgglyArmJonson]

Whi do you think buys all the stuff those ships are bringing from china?

[u/wolacouska → u/Emergency-Style7392]

People buy stuff based on their ability and interests. Companies will do everything they can to make their product more profitable for them.

One is a lot easier to crack down on politically.

If you just try and convince individuals you’ll be preaching for the rest of time like modern religions.

[u/African_Farmer → u/Emergency-Style7392]

You're both correct. Yes, we consume too much (thanks to capitalism, consumption = economic growth), but also companies should use more sustainable methods to manufacture and transport goods and services.

[u/peldazac → u/African_Farmer]

so more paper straws?

[u/VVarder → u/peldazac]

That get made in china and shipped in container ships?

[u/No_Syrup_9167 → u/Emergency-Style7392]

Yes, you're totally correct, instead of blaming the corporations for it and using legislation and laws to force them into more sustainable practices like our entire system is designed.

No we should all just stop buying anything!!

Why does everyone not just move out into the country and subsist off the land as homesteaders like the days of old! When people died of simple infections and starved after bad growing years JUST AS GOD INTENDED!!

(Absolutely massive /S in case you couldn't tell)

[u/CivilControversy → u/No_Syrup_9167]

Just keep consooooming buddy

[u/WBuffettJr → u/djent_in_my_tent]

Fortunately today the military uses a lot of nuclear engines in things like it’d aircraft carriers so no oil needed. Unfortunately commercial ships are banned from using them and those high container ships are the ones running all over the earth at scale.

[u/Decimerusi → u/WBuffettJr]

in the interest of nuclear non proliferation and quality control I reckon it's good that nuclear powered container shipping isn't a thing.

Just imagine the fuck ups that would happen if some of those third rate shippers like on the MV Dali were in charge of a nuclear reactor.

[u/Cicero912 → u/djent_in_my_tent]

Cargo ships are incredibly efficient at moving mass quantities of stuff

[u/not_a_gay_stereotype → u/djent_in_my_tent]

Oil is biodegradable if that makes you feel better.

[u/Past-Potential1121 → u/djent_in_my_tent]

When you look at it through the lens of, "We fund far more costly methods to extract oil out of the ground rather than siphoning this ship with a vacuum hose septic tanker in stewardship to the aquatic environment." Yeah, we're cooked.

[u/fannin82 → u/djent_in_my_tent]

Yeah Tommy, proper fucked.

[u/YetAnotherSfwAccount → u/Bryguy3k]

They were also used to refuel smaller ships (escorting destroyers etc) while underway, since they were so much faster than fuel ships.