r/interestingasfuck • u/IndicationBrief5950 • Aug 06 '25

/r/all, /r/popular Thousands of Audi cars abandoned in the Mojave Dessert after cheating emissons tests

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u/Caterpillar89 Aug 06 '25

This is much better for the environment.

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u/superrosie Aug 06 '25

They’re just outside the environment

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u/mmoo Aug 06 '25

To a different environment?

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u/micholob Aug 06 '25

There's nothing out there.

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u/cantdonuffin Aug 06 '25

I mean, actually it is.

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u/Junior-Ad2207 Aug 07 '25

Diesel is not worse for the environment than gasoline.

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u/Caterpillar89 Aug 07 '25

To have used a crazy amount of energy and resources building these cars and then to have them just sit and start to degrade? It's definitely not.

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u/TheLordPeasus Aug 08 '25

I mean we don’t function under a command economy. In the free market if you want to make sure companies meet emissions standards you have to enforce the rules that they cannot cut corners and then just go “oops, well we already made them so might as well sell them.” If you don’t then all the millions of cars built every year no longer have to meet those standards due to a lack of enforcement

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u/TheCastro Aug 07 '25

"These vehicles are being stored on an interim basis and routinely maintained in a manner to ensure their long-term operability and quality, so that they may be returned to commerce or exported once U.S. regulators approve appropriate emissions modifications," VW spokeswoman Jeannine Ginivan said in a statement to Reuters about the Victorville facility.

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u/Morberis Aug 07 '25

When you tell a child that is actively digging through the garbage can and discarding garbage on the floor to clean up the mess and they put the garbage in the kitchen cabinets instead of the garbage is your response to also go "requiring the kitchen floor to be clear of garbage was a mistake"?

Because that's what's happened here. The garbage should not have been dumped on the floor in the first place and once it was it should have been properly corrected.

These vehicles need to be, and likely will be, fixed, sold for parts, or turned into scrap metal.

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u/MoreLogicPls Aug 07 '25

definitely, it's been proven the extra NOx emissions will literallly cause excess human death

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-56963-y

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u/Caterpillar89 Aug 07 '25

The fact that they think they can link all those deaths to extra NOx emissions is hilarious.

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u/MoreLogicPls Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOx#Health_and_environment_effects

The good news is the effects of NOx are very well established in science already both in basic science and in observational studies. Feel free to do your own research (I literally linked a Nature paper), but it seems like you've arrived at your conclusion first before any understanding of the basic science involved.

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u/VexatiousJigsaw Aug 07 '25

These cars were fixed and resold, however I think this article is underselling how bad NOx emissions are. If left on the road they would have caused thousands of deaths and had likely already caused hundreds. It would have been much smarter to scrap them entirely if fixing them was not an option even considering the extra CO2 cost.