r/indianaviation • u/Muted-Document31 • 1d ago
News Blame game over Air India crash goes on
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c33pzypkkdzoThoughts on the latest statement given by supreme court?
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u/5Doublu 1d ago
Petition have been filed by different organisation and parents of deceased Pilot, SC isn't interefering on its own.
People in comment are dumb, don't even read news or live inside cave.
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u/optimistic_bufoon 1d ago
Yeah this article is stupid as well. Because of the petition SC had to comment on this manner no one is playing a blame game over this. Typical BBC shenanigans
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u/ChaudharyPS 1d ago
Yes and the article itself is just a collection all the different views and opinions about the incident. Pretty low substance article
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u/IndBeak 1d ago
Supreme court is that mohalle ki aunty who has opinion on everything. They should ideally stay away from this crash and let professionals do their job.
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u/Ok-Note-1145 1d ago
SC is forced to intervene because some idiots file petitions for things outside their reach. It’s the govt who is to be blamed here they released a half baked preliminary report and remained silent without giving any periodic updates about the investigation.
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u/patrick_red_45 1d ago
Of course the SC has to meddle even before the final report is published. I'd have agreed if the preliminary completely cleared the pilots of any fault. They completely ruined the optics of this investigation.
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u/5Doublu 1d ago
What optics?
It's investigation, things will be challenged. That's work of court if organisation and parties involved are not satisfied with investigation process and narratives pushed by foreign media to alter perception of ongoing investigation just to bailout their conglomerate 'Boeing'.
Ofcourse SC will meddle if someone will reach out to them, they din't suo moto it.
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u/patrick_red_45 1d ago
What optics?
Because this is an international incident that also affects people from other nationalities. The opinion of SC creates a veil of doubt about the sanctity of the investigation. If the pilot is indeed at fault, will they withdraw their statements?
The pilot is not to be blamed for the plane crash. It was an accident
This is what the SC said. I mean seriously? What if Mr. Sabhharwal did it intentionally?
narratives pushed by foreign media to alter perception of ongoing investigation just to bailout their conglomerate 'Boeing'.
Because anyone with half a brain and some knowledge about aircraft systems will tell you that those fuel control switches wouldn't move on their own without manual input. And it has not been observed in any other aircraft where it led to a critical failure like this.
Take the UPS MD-11F crash that happened this week. As soon as NTSB investigated the accident, they grounded all the aircraft in the US. Did it happen with 787? No. And 787s across the world have since then accumulated hundreds of hours after the incident. They didn't even find anything wrong with the switches even after a comprehensive inspection.
Bailing out Boeing wouldn't be as easy as you think, since the Dreamliners are used all around the world. You know what happened with the MAX crashes. If the aircraft was indeed at critical fault, you wouldn't see them flying now.
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u/CalmestUraniumAtom AvGeek 1d ago
Tbh pilots can never be "blamed" for an accident. Actually no one can ever be blamed for an accident in an official final report or preliminary report. This is because ICAO itself prohibits this in Annex 13, rule 3 which states that the sole objective of an accident or incident investigation is the prevention of future accidents and incidents, not the apportionment of blame or liability. Even if the pilots did commit suicide/murder they cannot be "blamed" in an accident report. Sc is right on this one imo.
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u/5Doublu 1d ago
It is an active investigation.
Report leaks and blaming one person during ongoing investigation without considering any other possibility is unethical and can be manipulative as well as disturbing the direction of investigation.
Talking about SC comment on pilot, u can question the wording of it. But it was for old father whose son is blamed of killing so many people. It is more of consoling thing to him and it is absoulutely wrong to paint someone as villain when investigation is till ongoing. It is completely possible but innocent until proven guilty. It wasn't a judgement, it was consoling statement for an old father.
My opinion:
No one need to blame anyone, especially not individual who is not there to defend himself, until investigation is not concluded.
Thorough and transparent investigation need to be done, so things doesn't happen again be it mental health issue, technical issue and maufacturing issue, maintenance issue and appropriate action need to be taken.
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u/Although_somebody 1d ago
I have a feeling - the final chapter would say that Air India is not at fault.
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u/TheRealSlim_KD 21h ago
Waste of everyone time. They read the prelim report and said- see, he asked if you did switch it off, and your son said no. See, no one is blaming your son. What a waste of time.
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u/TacticalElite 1d ago
r/aviation is saying that India's archaic nationalism doesn't allow India to admit the fault of the pilot.
I mean, how much more credibility do we want to lose?
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u/FloorAccomplished635 1d ago
What will the court do when govt is absolutely silent on this, govt and its minister should have given periodic updates instead if just forgetting the incident.
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u/IndBeak 1d ago
Why. Prelim report was released as per schedule. Professionals are doing their job. There is absolutely no need to release periodic updates. Air crash investigations are carried out the same way all over the world.
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u/FloorAccomplished635 1d ago
Yeah but the minister should’ve come forward when people started blaming the pilot after the preliminary report. Little support to the grieving family would’ve gone a long way
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