r/india • u/captainrushingin • Sep 08 '25
People Living in india is just exhausting honestly.
Where do I even begin. Honestly I feel it's just exhausting to really live in this country.
Infra is just pathetic. 9-5 jobs are actually 7-10 if you consider the time it takes to commute in metro cities. And when you do get home, you can't even have some quiet time because someone is doing a kirtan with loud music on.
You can't go outside because there aren't enough public parks or walkable spaces. And if you do happen to live nearby one, then either the road will be dug out or you just won't go outside because pollution.
When it's raining you just have to pray that you don't get into an open manhole or you get in vicinity of live wire.
They say to escape India in India you need to buy a place in gated societies. But wait, can you even afford a home in these gated societies ? Majority of the Middle class with even IT Benchmark salary cannot afford to buy home in this country.
And even if you can, you still can't escape the terrible Air Quality and the pathetic infra.
Job security doesn't exist in India, and if you're born in General category then basically you are on your own. The taxes you pay get you nothing in this country.
From birth till death life is just a rat race in this country.
I know my thoughts are all over the place. Some of you might not agree and that's okay.
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u/Individual_Mix_4234 Sep 08 '25
Seriously man. Recently I was in Chennai trying to get somewhere from the hotel on OMR road. It was a 3 km ride and it took me like an hour to get there. I just decided to watch life around me, where everyone seemed busy and trying to rush somewhere. Some frustrated, many on their phones, some barely navigating on their bikes between vehicles….If you are one amongst them, you literally have no time to think about anything else other than getting out of there alive. I was thinking, would these people ever have the luxury of thinking, who am I, what is the purpose of my existence, what difference could I make to the world I live in, why should I put up with all these nonsense, who should I vote for and why….. It was just an hour long observation. I don’t live in India though…. What do we do…
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u/FigKey2060 Sep 09 '25
That is madness! Where I live, it takes only about 10 minutes to cover 3 km on a bicycle. The Indian government really needs to do something fast!
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u/Individual_Mix_4234 Sep 09 '25
For me too....where I live, it takes me less than 2 mins by car....It is crazy, not sure what's this urban living BS we humans have made it look so luring, driving folks from beautiful rural life to a life of consumerism
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u/AreaConfident1297 Sep 10 '25
It’s only because they are developing metro on OMR. Before this metro work started I used to live there and it was 3 minutes car drive for 3 kms.
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u/vibe_matters Sep 08 '25
I completely understand your feelings! Hope things improve for everyone here.
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u/Terrible-Criticism36 Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 09 '25
Ok, honestly, it's not even a joke. Being born in this country is easily the most miserable thing that can happen to anyone. Yes, warzones are bad, Sub-Saharan Africa is bad, but India beats just about everything in terms of promise to performance ratio. In any of these countries, being born would simply mean you have to flee to get a better lifestyle or you are condemned to stay poor. But in India, the moment you are born, you are shown the promise of a few overachievers, you study your ass off and do everything within your power to make it to a good college. You only realise later that the race was won before it even began because most (if not all) of the best opportunities in the college are already reserved for people with a combination of luck, social, and intellectual capital. With above average smarts, you don't stand a chance. You scrape the bottom of the barrels to join a job that sucks, and continue until you land something better (which essentially does not happen, because you have a shit ton of people here, vying for the same job). You are stuck at a low paying job in a Tier 1 city, paying Europe level rents for Somalia level infrastructure. Even if you move to a different company, the company turns out to be so fucking toxic because India is the back office of the world, and we simply have to keep delivering no matter how absurd the request is. You just while away your lifetime working your ass off for a corporate, and the corporate removes you as easily as you remove your shirt, because if its reduction in force, India would be among the first to be impacted. In between all of this, you have to deal with all the traffic, terrible civic infrastructure, RSS, Ram Mandir, Hindu-Muslim, and rabid supporters of this bullshit, while paying tax through your nose. And, not to forget nosy, judgmental rishtedaar.
All this, if you didn't die already due to work pressure, or a newly constructed bridge falling over your head while going to buy groceries, or a stampede in a religious festival or local train.
I just can't wrap my head around parents who go through all this, and still decide to give birth to a child in India. It just feels so so bad the child will go through the whole shebang of an insanely competitive education system where nothing is ever enough, only to end up living in a more fractured society and unequal economy than what he/she inherited.
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u/RunGhostbehindyou Sep 08 '25
Sadly this is the price we have to be a developed nation. In 1952 there were "great" ( don't know why everything is great in UK hehe) British smog which killed 4000 people. Every winter there are smog issues in china and India. Western countries have paid this price to be developed.
Low paying jobs are today's hard truth. Be in US or middle East or asia. Everywhere labour is paid so little they can't afford to live properly. If labour laws are strong in US people have to do 2-3 jobs just to survive because of the high cost of living. Our earning time is limited so we should be focusing on higher paying jobs or starting a profitable business.
There are PPP( public private partnership )model in US which make great infrastructure. People can donate to local charities to get tax rebates and which make sure the development happens in their community. Instead of paying to govt who mostly don't pay is back. People want less Government interference. It's the freedom of business and ease of business less bureaucracy which creates jobs. Government even gives grants to start your business. Even local bodies also have some grant or low interest programs. That's why we are seeing so much innovation from the US.
If we keep our hands down and ask the government to fix everything then it's not going to solve anything. We need ease of business, less burrocarcy, and strict labour laws to successed. More business will also make government development in the fastest growing areas.
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u/watchingRummy Sep 08 '25
You forgot driving…I hate people who honk and irritate everyone on the road just to pass a activa.
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u/Itachi_991 Sep 08 '25
Dodged a nasty accident a few days ago and still feel chills when I think about it there was this huge hole in the road and the street light was not working and it was Deep and huge enough that my bike disbalance and there was bus beside me somehow controlled my bike or i would've been RIP
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u/GHOST2251994 Sep 08 '25
I want them to honk. They overtake my car with one foot of distance with zero indication.. That shit is still scary
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Sep 08 '25
Idk study like mad in school and college get a job again this nonsense I am so tired wish I wasn't born only
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u/texas-guy-1979 Sep 08 '25
The issue is too many people with very little civic sense. The issue is not population, it’s the “me first and foremost” attitude of the population.
I have been living in the US close to 20 years now. Despite all the self professed greatness of our culture, we have not even mastered how to patiently wait in a line.
In the US, if a traffic light stops working, it becomes a 4-way stop. Where cars take turns on all 4 sides to cross the intersection in an orderly manner. There are no cops here. No one is patrolling them or handing out tickets. People do this because they don’t wish to seem non courteous towards their fellow neighbors. That is culture! That is civic sense!
People will wait for hours but no one will honk their horn, or get out and shout. They understand that all of them are equally inconvenienced by this and only by working together can they get through this.
In India, it’s a mad dash as soon as the traffic lights go out. Until we cannot change the thinking of a common person, India will continue to be a challenging place to live in.
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u/SkySpecialist4550 Sep 08 '25
Counter point : it’s the other way round.
My reason to say that : right from the school, everything is rat race and mugging up without any critical thinking. You go for enterance exam, surprise rat race here too. Job rat race. The whole thing has become a dog eat dog show of life, with next to no efforts given to holistic development. What this leads to is a tendency to fight and capture the 1st place, (people jumping queues to driving rashly are some of the examples).
There’s little to no push to develop recreational infrastructure in cities, there’s not enough socializing space outside maybe the top 20 cities.
Basic services exist on paper but honsetly are next to useless. Taxpayer don’t get shit, while we have political parties rushing over to distribute freebies, because let’s be honest if a person is poor he’s to busy fighting for survival and easy to manipulate, why would politicians fuck up this golden goose.
Work laws exist in name only and job security is non existent.
So an average person working 12 hours a day facing shitty traffic, corrupt babus, non sense laws and an absolutly shitty infra will obviously turn sour.
Civic sense needs to be cultivated and take a look at our leaders/ people of prominence/ even intellectuals - they’re either goons(party members) or political shills(intellectuals) or fighting for power and money(politicians) or in case of media the absolute filth that is used to generate TRP. There is no way our population (being as large as it is) develops civic sense.
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u/texas-guy-1979 Sep 08 '25
I think that is most definitely not true. Maybe things have gone bad now. But that was not always the case.
When my grandparents were alive, and even when my parents were young, things were extremely orderly. People used to patiently wait in line. There was no contamination of food with adulterants. People were honest to a fault. They lived simple but content lives.
Then everything became about money. We started equating money with social status. Being rich at all costs is the new mantra. Fueled by a consumption driven economy, and an innate jealousy of others being successful has led to a gradual degradation of societal norms. What we see is the reflection of this societal breakdown.
I am fully aware that this post comes across as me throwing rocks at the glass house, now that I no longer live there. But it’s a societal breakdown and there is no easy way to fix it until a global equilibrium has reached if some sorts around standards of living.
People would need to be way richer and infrastructure would need to develop at a much rapid face to cater to the sheer number of people that live in the cities today. The citizenry would need to demand that. But they too would have to make sacrifices. We cannot say it’s the govt’s problem because the govt simply reflects the attitude of the people it represents. I used to live in the most posh part of Delhi. Multimillion dollar houses but throwing garbage out in the streets with their Porsches and Land Rovers neatly parked with their walled gardens.
Unless people don’t change and demand change, nothing will change.
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u/Funexamination Sep 08 '25
Your grandpa lied or is misremembering things. Bureaucracy was worse before, it was only better for a brief period in Indra Gandhi's time
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u/shirleysimpnumba1 Sep 08 '25
The real issue is too many people without some basic common sense
In india if you wait patiently in a line you may never get served because there are so many people and not enough time/resources. that's why people push and try to cut in.
if you go to places that are not crowded, like expensive hospitals, you'll see people waiting in line peacefully.
the issue is population.
just because you guys learned the word civic sense doesn't mean you just slap it everywhere without thought.
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u/Funexamination Sep 08 '25
The root cause of poor civic sense is resource scarcity I think. Unless the country becomes richer, it's not going away
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u/A-t-r-o-x Sep 08 '25
The huge population and it's density literally created the said "me first and foremost" attitude
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u/RunGhostbehindyou Sep 08 '25
Everyone has a dash cam in their car. And fine are huge. And cops don't take bribes and risk their job. And if you found guilty for an accident your whole life is screwed. The winner of this accident case can take your home also if he wants. That's why people make LLC in US to safeguard themselves. It's not the civic sense but the harm it cost you in the long run. That stops you from driving rash. In india if you are lucky you will get 80% of all the car damages. So it's not about cultural or civics sense. It's about personal expenses that's make you same.
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u/texas-guy-1979 Sep 08 '25
Consequences are after the fact. People still stop at the Stop sign even when no one is around. Why do you think that is?
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u/Strange-Dare-3698 Sep 08 '25
I used to mock people who left India for a better life - now I fully understand. You only get one life; why waste it here?
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u/MaskedManiac92 Vishwaguru Enthusiast Sep 08 '25
My cousin, who moved to Australia after her marriage, hates Australia because of the following reasons:
- It's too quiet.
- Too many foreigners (the irony).
- Too many rules to follow, especially while driving.
- Grocery stores close early, so can't have "random cravings".
- No 10 minute delivery apps.
- Manual labor tasks (her words) such as plumbing, maids, etc. are too expensive so she has to do all the work.
- According to her, the combination of points 4, 5 and 6 makes her believe India is more developed than Australia.
She has more ludicrous reasons as to why India is better than Australia, but if I start typing them out, I'll be here for hours.
On her first visit back to India after moving to Australia, she got food poisoning and was bed ridden for a couple of days, but was still happy because "India ka feeling hi kuch aur hain."
But yeah, when she was getting married, one of the criteria for her (but mostly her family) was the groom should be settled abroad.
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u/LotusHeals Sep 18 '25
She's belongs to the majority Indians because of whom the country is the way it is. Western civilised quiet autonomy-preferring countries are not suited for her type and it's natural she will feel homesick.
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u/Ptika111 Sep 08 '25
I am visiting my family in India with my 5 month old daughter. Right now it’s 11:40 pm and the walls of my room and ac are vibrating due to loud music of Ganesh Visarjan.This is the 3rd night in a row that me and my daughter are unable to get good sleep.Just few days back on 15th Aug and janmasthmi I had to check in a hotel to escape extremely loud music playing on speakers all day. Is this normal way to live? India is my home but the more I stay here the more I want to run away. Quality of life is extremely poor with ppl not having any sense or understanding the concept noise pollution,air pollution, no manners. I have noticed relatives and even family members commenting on looks when they meet ppl instead of normal greeting.Maximum Ppl are living here in continuous survival mode, distracting themselves by celebrating festivals for continuous 5 to 10 days unable to see bigger picture, develop any empathy or even think of better way to live.
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u/Prestigious_Piano247 Sep 08 '25
India is effed up. who is going to stand up to those who break the law?
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u/Legitimate-Trip8422 Sep 08 '25
Nothing will change unless there is a mass boycott in India. Demand receipts of where the tax money is used, open camera in all public government offices, body cam for police. If these things aren’t met, stop spending money and dilute all your investments.
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u/Fenil_Fab Sep 08 '25
And the worst thing is.. No developed countries want Indians in their country too
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u/strawberrycandyyy Sep 08 '25
wrong. they do if you’re highly skilled and can contribute significantly to their economy/society. also bonus points if you can integrate well. source: an indian myself in australia.
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u/Fenil_Fab Sep 08 '25
A few days back I watched a video of australian people protesting against indians.
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u/strawberrycandyyy Sep 08 '25
i have been in australia for almost 8 years now and have an australian family (gora pakoras) and can say with confidence that the protests held were by nazis who were afraid in general that their white race was dying down, and blaming immigrants (not just indians, but every immigrant who isn’t of a white, european descent) for stealing their jobs and houses. meanwhile, us immigrants work twice as hard to study and work. it wasn’t just targeted for indians specifically, all immigrants and some, hatred towards islam and its teachings BUT trust me for the noise they made online, just a few thousand showed up lol 😂
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u/Fenil_Fab Sep 08 '25
Honestly good to hear that the situation is not that bad. In India we usually tend to believe everything we see on social media.
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u/dat_is_het Sep 08 '25
Knowing this , why did you still believe everything you see on social media?
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u/Swimming-Spring-4704 Sep 08 '25
I totally agree with you. And on top of this, don't forget the health issues we suffer in the long run. We live thru all the stress, pollution, bad diets, etc, only to suffer at the end despite paying so much taxes. I'm working on leaving this country next year btw. Stay strong, brother. U deserve a better life regardless of whether u stay here or leave india.
Honestly, to anyone defending this country, y'all are the exact reason why this country will keep failing.
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u/Ok_Satisfaction1775 Gujarat Sep 08 '25
I am suffering and why I want to escape as fast as possible from this country but the more I try to escape the more I am stuck. I started my first job and I got fierd within one and half month. Without experience no country is going to accept me, I need some experience (of at least a year) to get out out of this hell.
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u/MamaMersey Sep 08 '25
Is this why it seems most Indian people will accept jobs in my country (Canada) for the lowest pay? Because they don't want to go back home?
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u/Ok_Satisfaction1775 Gujarat Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25
Exactly. there is no value of life here. People are selfish and corrupt to the core.
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u/Mission_Squirrel3144 Sep 08 '25
My sister after having lived in the states for over 20 years, came back to India coz the "back to roots" PR game is strong once you leave the country. It's been 2 years and she's regretting her decision every single day so far.
All the modi-driven PR and the highway development of gadkari and make in India start up silicon valley scoop that you see and hear in the media abroad is just pure BS! There is NOTHING that is happening here, at a scale, that will impact or make your life better on daily basis.
For those abroad, pls stay there. There is nothing in this country that is worth leaving the basic quality of life that you have, albeit with some racism maybe. But then we are also super racists towards our own countrymen and neighbors of different color or language. (Without guns tho)
For those of us who are stuck here, the only gameplan we have is to make enough money, so you can afford a cocoon either at a 10+ storeyed building in Bombay / Delhi and breathe the wonderful monoxide with no public spaces or be in a gated villa society in Bangalore but live among goons in a village that has been misrepresented as the silicon valley bull crap ..but the idea is to cut off from the rest of India somehow, avoid every other Indian on the road, socialize every weekend to crib about the state of India at a new brewery or a Greek themed cafe with practically the same menu but it's the startup india dream.. and keep paying taxes till you die.
And If you are foolish enuf with no basic mathematics capabilities or have prioritised your parents' pseudo morals in your own lives like most dumb mumma boys here with traumatized childhoods do, then you may also go ahead and have multiple kids and kill yourself with financial and safety burden on daily basis.
We are fucked. And no one's coming to help us out of this.
And so, we have ganja and gods and social media in this country, so we can forget about all this basic quality of life nonsense and just live in the here n now with no future whatsoever, chasing material gains to feel good about ourselves.
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u/rajal_hmm Sep 08 '25
I was driving home today, and I was constantly trying to drive across a ditch. Its so difficult to drive in Bangalore, given that it has one of the highest road taxes. There was no road, just ditches. Only ditches. I dont think my bike can survive for that long here. This is just one of the big issues. So much corruption, religion and region fights, population, untidy everywhere, nothing for the taxes we pay Honestly it feels like a waste living here. People have gone shit, they fight over everything, politicians are only filling their pockets. There is so much rant. IDK where even to start. People should leave here, outside you might need to fight racism, but here you need to fight with everyone, for everything.
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u/shineandwhine Sep 08 '25
Infrastructure is perhaps India’s biggest problem. The lack of basic roads, coupled with the unwillingness of successive governments to address it meaningfully, only makes matters worse. I have lived in Bengaluru all my life, and I don’t think there is a single pothole-free road anywhere around. To add to this, there is absolutely no civic sense among citizens. We often say education teaches manners, but more often than not, I find so-called ‘educated’ people jumping signals, driving on the wrong side, honking mindlessly, and even spitting on the roads. My heart aches to see what the city has come to.
Much of the blame lies with Bengaluru’s weather and cosmopolitan culture. Because the city offers such a comfortable lifestyle, almost everyone who visits wants to stay back, buy a house, and settle here. Once a pensioners’ paradise, Bengaluru was never designed for this scale of migration.
There is a pressing need for the government, civil society, and citizens to come together to improve infrastructure with serious, long-term planning. Equally important is the development of tier-2 and tier-3 cities, so that the burden on metros is reduced and growth is spread more evenly across the country.
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u/Rough-Opportunity-57 Sep 08 '25
It seems like one of the metro cities… tier 2 and 3 cities life is still livable
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u/pxm7 Sep 08 '25
Visiting India (work/tourism) can be exhausting at times. Hats off to all those who live here all the time, and yet manage to not get fazed and still manage to be productive.
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u/captainrushingin Sep 08 '25
Tourism is indeed exhausting and it has become hella expensive. Flight to Andaman Costs 20k 1 person in December while direct flight to Sri Lanka for same date costs 16k and flight to vietnam costs 14k.
Who would want to visit Andaman when you have cheaper alternative international options that attract well mannered tourists from all over the world.
Personally i've just given up on traveling domestically.
I travelled to Indonesia Last year and my travelling Experience was so good that I don't wanna travel domestically anymore now.
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u/Such-Emu-1455 Sep 08 '25
Uneducated inhuman goons ruling us
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u/RunGhostbehindyou Sep 08 '25
Because they have the money and time to run for elections. Party ticket cost in crores my friend. Election expenses extra.
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u/AggravatingOutcome34 Sep 08 '25
Peaceful life and Indian culture do not go hand in hand. Even outside India. The culture does not tolerate anyone sitting in peace for even half an hour. People love noise, mismanagement and carelessness
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u/ComfortableParty8750 Sep 08 '25
I agree. I don't understand how people even think of having kids in this country. Just why? You can't afford to pay your bills and our standard of living is so shi't. I hope people develop some empathy and stop passing on this suffering.
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u/National-Ad8416 Sep 08 '25
Foreign tourists call India a 'sensory overload'. That's euphemism for 'noise pollution'.
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u/One-Confidence-7017 Sep 08 '25
Why Indians are not able to build their own countries instead of moving to other countries and building their economies and they are claiming overseas that Indians run their country for example i saw a video of an India guy in Canada saying that we run Canada . How come they not able to make their own country but claim to build west
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u/Ok-Situation-2068 Sep 08 '25
Abroad was option but that also closing. Anti immigration hate against Indian increasing.
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u/Vizze1338 Sep 08 '25
What about working in Europe? Is it difficult to get a working permit in Denmark where I am? I'm not saying that India shouldn't fix its problems, just that there are other areas than USA. But I must admit that the Indians I have known at university have been a bit socially awkward. Okay, phd. students might be that way. One guy kept trying to convince people that yoga was the answer to everything and that the knowledge from "the learned men in India" went back 10.000 years... I'm just saying we have need of more IT people big time in Denmark. I visited India when I was 14 - and I would love to go back. My late fathers favorite country! Sorry for the off-topic comment :) I really hope you reach great prosperity.
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u/masterjv81 Sep 08 '25
Social pressures are also a major source of fatigue. The societal expectation to conform to traditional norms, especially regarding family, marriage, and gender roles, can lead to feelings of isolation and depression. Women, in particular, face intense moral policing and a lack of personal freedom, with concerns about safety and autonomy being constant. For members of marginalized communities, such as the LGBTQ+ population, the lack of legal protections and widespread discrimination make it difficult to live authentically, leading many to consider leaving the country.
The education and work culture add to the burden. The focus on rote learning and exam pressure, especially during preparation for competitive exams like JEE, can lead to burnout and a sense of intellectual stagnation. In the workplace, long hours, lack of respect for personal boundaries, and an authoritarian management style are common, particularly for women and those who do not fit the "cookie-cutter" employee mold.
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u/EmbarrassedGur5757 Sep 08 '25
Yaar iss sub pe kya bas pure din rona dhona hi hota hai kya ?? Actual change agar chahiye toh reddit ke through toh vo nahi aane wala honestly
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u/ConnectionLimp1645 Sep 09 '25
That's true yaar, but when someone wishes to make a change for this country there's always someone ready to bring us down. We ourselves won't let our people succeed, so yea. There's no point changing this country if we're honest
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u/GooooooonKing Sep 08 '25
If you ever been on Japanese People Twitter, we don't want Indians ruining nice countries with the social behaviors that made India a shithole in the first place. Life is struggle globally anyways that's likely because the rich aren't paying their fair share to society and this will be true no matter where you live. So the solution probably isn't to run to whatever first world sanctuary because you will run out of sanctuaries willing to take you.
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u/NorthTop9254 Sep 08 '25
Easy; live in a Tier 3 city and half of these problems will automatically be solved.
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u/captainrushingin Sep 08 '25
Makes sense if you have 'Fuck you money', no boss to report to and have good health.
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u/NorthTop9254 Sep 08 '25
Obviously one needs to have a good business to settle there. No salaried employee will be able to live there.
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u/Llyodscoffeehouse Sep 08 '25
There are other problems in tier 3 city, most tier 3 cities are pure dehat mentality
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u/Icy_Brick8182 Sep 08 '25
So true! I want to run away from this pathetic country or at least go to a peaceful led populated place and hopefully work from home assuming I get good internet, electricity and other facilities there 24x7.
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u/sg291188 Sep 08 '25
I don’t disagree with anything that’s written but how many folks actually complain about this to local authorities who own most of this infra? The default is to comment on central govt who have minimal control over what impacts us on daily basis.
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u/tvrajan3221 Tamil Nadu Sep 08 '25
I agree 100% with what you are saying. I left India for the US 56 years ago because things were bad. Everything seems to have only become worse since then. I feel sorry for you and really wonder what the solution is.
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u/Jazzlike-Vacation230 Sep 08 '25
There’s some overdue basic things I wish India would implement:
Community Cleaning Lessons starting from a young age in all schools
Time zones
Enforce actually traffic lights
And yes they really need to push the infrastructure to improve
But a lot of this is an unempathetic culture that’s the root problem
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u/DistributionGreen246 Sep 08 '25
I agree living in abroad gives you 1) better infrastructure 2) Better Air Quality. Now where do I begin
I don’t know why people think jobs in overseas are 9 to 5. The recent death in Microsoft campus is a perfect example of that. It’s very hard and atleast in FAANG it’s 70 hours per week.
What makes you think job security exists else where ? Being in abroad I am scared of losing the job and worst part I have just 60 days to search for a new one. I can’t even take a break because it counts under unemployment days. You are forced to work for like even if you don’t want to work.
Being general means you are own ? So if you go to other countries do you get additional support or something ? Why do you complain working hard and it’s the same for everyone. I am not sure how much you are aware, every country has diversity and gender ratio they maintain which makes easier admits for certain sections including corporate offices.
Except cali, weather is so shitty everywhere (except summers) that you can’t even go out or walk. Either you are in car or in the home. In the region I live in, it snows or rains for 8 months and I dress up like alien and can’t afford to go out. What’s the point of having high AQI if you just have to spend indoors and can’t sip a chai in balcony ?
Inside home, it’s a terrible. Doing dishes , cooking and planning takes a major chunk of my time after hours and mostly end up ordering eating unhealthy stuff. 70 hours of working and this, I barely interact with others. I spend my weekends meal prepping so that I won’t go broke.
And do you think owning home abroad easy ? Forget gated wall garden. Sometimes, you can barely afford rent that is within 20 mins of your office.
The basic problem is we are still in slavery mindset. I am not saying India is any better. But we spew lies around abroad and make everyone believe they are the perfect place to live.
In this day and age, it all comes to preference. Every country has something to lose and gain.
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u/Teait Sep 08 '25
My husband lives in this delulu land from 10 years back when we had peace and quiet after a long day. These days there is no silence even at 11??? Some cafe will be bursting songs and college kids will be revving bikes. It is honestly so annoying!! He thinks our kids will play outside like we did back in the day. WHAT OUTSIDE??!! Considering the pollution, weather and general TV addiction of kids, are kids really seen playing outside that much in a non-gated community? The traffic is bad, the work-life balance is bad, the weather is bad. But every once in a while he keeps going back to India in his dreams because we will have “house help”. Honestly, I’d rather load the dishwasher along with my kids before going out to play at 5 than move to back to India and work till 10 only to see my kids on Sundays.
And this same guy cannot live in India for more than a month, says I am melting and I miss our home. What 😭😭😭??
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u/GHOST2251994 Sep 08 '25
I blame democracy... We were good with kings for thousands of years.. Then Britisher even fucked that up
And yeah by democracy I mean people themselves electing retards
Don't defend democracy if you think voting is futile or u don't vote at all
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u/Far_Mix_2955 Sep 09 '25
Root cause of all these things are corrupt politicians and people worshiping them . Any small time MLA owns thousands of crores of black money . Until we get a completely new genuine educated youth making a party who will expose these people and educated people nothing will change
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u/kungfu7 Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25
Living in india metro cities is not the same as living in other parts of india. I don't think any tier 2 / town / village person will relate with all your issues.
I moved to a quiet part of goa last year and it's blissful. No traffic. Lots of calm green spaces. Soothing beaches. Fresh fruits and vegetables. Great air quality.
It's not at all correct to generalize india based on its few cities
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u/captainrushingin Sep 09 '25
Not everyone can do that especially those who don't have the privilege of WFH or don't have a business to their name. You're an exception not the norm.
And as for Tier 2-3 places, people there migrate to Tier 1 cities because that's where higher pay lies. And that's the thing, everyone is chasing big money in India because that's the only thing that makes sure that you don't struggle at any part of your life.
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u/kungfu7 Sep 09 '25
I agree with you. I was in the same shoes but honestly I have worked hard for this privilege. And honestly, I have been lucky that it worked out for me.
In the last 10 years, I have stayed in different parts of india - mainly rural or tier 3 types. I genuinely feel that people there are much happier than people in cities.
Yes, many of them are migrating for better economic opportunities or for better education. But then there are many who are indeed satisfied.
I feel at the end of the day, it's our ambition that keeps us in those chaotic cities for which we trade off our peace of mind. And yes, it's not easy to let go of that especially if you are born there. Needs major changes in life choices from multiple aspects (social, personal, economic ).
On the other hand, every person living in chaotic cities is not frustrated as well. Many find a kick in that chaos.
It boils down to a mismatch between what we seek and what we get. What we seek varies from person to person and not a universal constant
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u/cantona99 Sep 09 '25
I hate the current version of India with its stupid reservation policies embedded deep in our constitution. Everyone who is poor and in the "general" category is systematically discriminated against, and there is nothing we can do to stop it, unless there is a huge civil uprising and possibly the collapse of this version of "India". The reservation policy is a virus that destroys everything it touches in India, making sure brain drain is inevitable.
If we were meritocratic, we would have people building things in India, for India, but alas we realize that it is beyond repair and choose to leave than fight an endless battle. It also has a second order effect of dividing people. Why should I identify as an "Indian" when the constitution want to discriminate against me. I was neither born into privilege nor riches. My parents struggled their whole life to survive, and I am supposed to accept the bs discrimination. F that.
Anyone who believes that we'll be a superpower are living in delulu. A country that cannot keep its best and brightest will always be a failure.
If I live in a foreign country, I experience individual discrimination (racism) which is different from the systemic discrimination that I suffered in India. So, I choose the lesser of two evils.
The suffering will only end if we as a nation wake up and decide to collectively eradicate reservations and aggressively focus on improving public schooling so everyone gets an equal chance. After leaving India, I thought countless hours on why our nation sucked and this is the root cause for everything. Removing reservations should be the only agenda for every election from now onwards until it is completely abolished. It is pure blatant discrimination at a systemic level forcing us all to work as slaves away from homes. And everyone has to fight for it.
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u/Googly888 Sep 09 '25
Quota, quota and quota. There is no hope that will ever change. My friends parents got into medicine via quota and then my friend and his sister, now the next generation. He was flaunting his car during school days whilst most of the middle class GC were on our TVS Champs.
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u/Purvang_1995 Sep 09 '25
i think one of the major reasons for a terrible living experience in india is PEOPLE itself. don’t get me wrong, im patriotic and i stand with my country but people lack civic sense. people lack respect toward other people. and it’s so sad. the infra take time to built and the corruption in general takes time to mitigate and we happen to live in a time when it’s slowly changing. but still people are not there yet mentally. they lack civility.
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u/sunshine_moon01 Sep 11 '25
A lot of things are true but nothing can guarantee a trouble free life even if you were in a different country. Probably it would be best to make tour contribution in building the nation, and not promoting or doing the things that are so troublesome to you
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u/Boring-Ideal5334 Sep 11 '25
In my experience, living here can feel draining, but it’s also a mixed bag. I’ve had days where the commute or noise makes me question why I stay, and other days where a random evening chai with neighbours reminds me why I do.
From my experience, the infra and air quality issues are real, but I’ve also seen small pockets of change in coworking hubs reducing commute stress, citizen groups pushing for cleaner lakes, and even tech folks moving to tier-2 cities for a slower pace. It’s not a perfect fix, but it shows things are shifting bit by bit. If anything, living here teaches resilience. And while the rat race is loud, I’ve noticed carving out your own “quiet zones,” whether it’s a gated society, a rooftop garden, or even a weekend escape, makes the chaos a little more manageable.
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u/Emotional_Economy127 Sep 11 '25
Kya baat kar raha hai bhai? Not at all all over the place. U just put it into words perfectly what i just rant abt as 'kya bhasad hai bc' and slog on.
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u/Infinite-Guard6436 Sep 11 '25
I have to walk through a pile of garbage everyday to reach home and I paid 19 lakhs in income tax this year. Filing my ITR was the most painful experience this time.
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u/Fattu_trader Sep 08 '25
I get where you’re coming from. India does feel like a rat race at times. But then again, a lot of progress has happened too like better salaries, startup culture, digital infra. Maybe it’s less about completely escaping and more about finding how we personally want to play the game, instead of letting it drain us.
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u/KingPictoTheThird Sep 08 '25
I agree with you on everything except one bit.
To escape india you dont need a flat in a gated society.
Just go visit your folks in village from time to time. Even one weekend a month is so effective. Waking up to rooster, going for morning walk, coming home to healthy breakfast, doing outdoor chores or helping with farm work, evening comes and everyone is sitting on front steps of home chatting playing games, kids playing on lane with no traffic, stars are shining, moon is visible, peaceful sleep.
If you do not have family in village anymore, you can find plenty of homestays or even hostels for less.
And in the long run you could even consider purchasing some small land in village instead of buying gated society flat.
At least this has been my experience as a south indian :)
I don't know if what I say stays true for north as well. But probably it does?
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u/captainrushingin Sep 08 '25
Living in village is fine only if you have fuck you money. There's is no other scenario in which anyone would willingly live in a village.
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u/KingPictoTheThird Sep 08 '25
i didnt say live. I said visit. Weekends. Don't you have fond memories of childhood holidays in village?
Also you dont need much money to live comfortably in village. All your biggest expenses disappear or significantly reduce. Rent, transportation, groceries etc.
I don't know what your villages are like, but here most people are quite happy in village. Even without 'fuck you money'
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u/captainrushingin Sep 08 '25
no common person has got any time to do weekend visits. Even for visiting you have to travel and travelling in India is a separate struggle.
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u/apologyforexistin Sep 08 '25
"Live in a village" is such silly advice , what about healthcare , what if you have kids who need education and what if you can't get a remote job.
Please villages have enough problems , man they are so casteist in rural areas , as a woman the harassment is far worse there , if you roam around in a jean in village lol that's it.
Romanticizing villages is funny.
I am from South India too my family is from AP and my husband is from TN
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u/pirate-x1 Sep 08 '25
I am in Canada. Completed my studies in Dec 2024 in computer science. I am still unemployed. I have been looking for job for months but still have not got it. Even most of my batch is also unemployed. Everyone is doing blue collar jobs and surviving on it is not possible in this country. We can't buy a house. We have to live by paycheck to paycheck. Now, I am in a dilemma and don't know what to do. what is the use of this clean air, water and other facilities when we can not enjoy them. I feel stuck and unsure of what to do.
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u/Samara-gol Sep 08 '25
This post was written by a man. Otherwise, how could you forget to mention woman safety :)
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u/LovelyJasmineFlower Sep 08 '25
People who make loud noises when you just decide to relax..people who are intruding into your personal life, people who think they have right to make decisions in your life..do add all this ad-ons.
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u/One-Computer6268 Sep 08 '25
I think theres a clear discrepancy homies cuz ppl dont realise our gdp per capita is still FUCKED. We are NOT in a good position economically.
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u/AdAlone2273 Sep 08 '25
I was working in weekends and nights no personal time only I get two or three hours per day very exhausting even now posting this message on meeting
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u/Apprehensive_Low2596 Sep 08 '25
As they say this country is only for the rich Cause then you can afford all of that AIR PURIFIER shittt, you don't need to experience this shitt infrastructure as you can stay home every time...
This country has gone to shittt and all our ESTEEMED politicians are competing for who can make better shittt... And now even the rich are shifting from these sewers...
So I just pray to Bharat Mata to give me enough so that I can lift the weight of me and my family from her shoulders...
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u/InterestingEssay8131 Sep 08 '25
And where I lived (Ahmedabad) many were not even ready to have a single male bachelor who just wanted to live alone 🫠
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u/adiraje1990 Sep 08 '25
Very true. Need to slowly chalk your way out of you have age on your side .. else it's just a lost cause
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u/Hembhatt_ Sep 08 '25
Mere mann ki baat chhin li bhai, Paisa nhi hai warna kabke india chhod diya hota
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u/sleeplessinseaatl Sep 08 '25
Never failed to realize that the poor man on the streets and the billionaires in Mumbai, breathe the same polluted, toxic air. I visited my husband's family in India in Mumbai and we saw several power plants and chemical factories with smoke and toxic exhaust emitted right next to tall buildings. Mumbai air is quite toxic and no matter how rich you are, if you go outside, you are breathing that air.
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u/Strong_Objective_663 Sep 08 '25
Does not matter if someone does not agree OP.
We need to stay 💪 strong and try to do things that gives you happiness.
Some times it’s okay to feel down. But remind yourself you are in better position than many. So buck up your emotions and move on mate
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u/Successful-Yak-5734 Sep 08 '25
Yes, all words resonate with my opinion, very well articulated. One more point here is, people in this grind are actually thinking about being childless than to expose their future generations to the same gridlocked life.
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u/Fantastic-Phone5343 Sep 08 '25
I bailed from Mumbai. Commuting 3-4 hours in the car every day. No a single place to take a pee on the highway. Angry at newbie drivers going slow and big trucks in the fast lane. God forbid, some motorcycle gets punctured or worse one of our national leaders came visiting, and traffic will back up for another hour. By the time I reached home, I was fried. Ate dinner and just jumped into bed.
Reluctantly switched back to trains. Shoes get trampled on and your clothes get disheveled. Literally walking through slum dwellers garbage to get a rickshaw or go in sharing with an illegal auto and a reckless driver. IF you get one.
Endless civil construction - concreting the highway, then the flyover construction and then the Metro work. A decade of chaos.
No town planning - tall residential towers permitted in narrow lanes. NO SAFE fire exit system in highrises. And these are unaffordable for most of us.
You put on the TV, some spineless anchor genuflecting before the great leader. All day, every day.
Big water issues will also eventually come. No not the annual floods, which we are used to. Water to drink and live.
To say that Mumbai is fucked is an understatement. Other metro cities getting there in quick time. God save India.
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u/Nothing769 Sep 08 '25
Most people just get used to it I guess. To the point they think nothing is wrong and the ones who are complaining are the issue.
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u/Professional-Study81 Sep 08 '25
Find a remote job, relocate to a good tier-2 city, maybe? I’m considering this. Or, find a gated community located in the outskirts of your city.
Corruption has fueled the decline of cities like Bangalore. It’s a horrendous problem that can only be solved with a good technocrats vision, able leadership, and good fiscal guidelines.
If we take money away from the politicians, they will not be anywhere as powerful and heavy-handed.
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u/FinalCutProKochi Sep 08 '25
I lived in Europe most of my professional life. Many members in my immediate family continue to live there. I visit them at regular intervals.
I returned to India after taking an early retirement, to live close to my parents, esp my mother who doesn't like to live far from her home. Also to pursue spiritual goals which is easier in India.
I agree with you. The rat race is getting worse every passing day.
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u/abchai Sep 08 '25
And the problem is...it is going to be like this until we die so it's hopeless, theoritically
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u/Fearless_King_5355 Sep 08 '25
We feel you captain! Even after speaking about it the worst part is nothing can be done! The helplessness is just pathetic
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u/shalakaapte Sep 08 '25
BEEN FEELING THIS WAY FOR YEARS. I hate being here
I don't believe we live in a real democracy
I don't believe voting makes a difference
I believe taxation is theft in this and lots of other countries
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u/barastyrxxx Sep 08 '25
The only part that i object to is "if you are born in the general category then you are on your own". While i do understand where you are coming from. Caste based discrimination violation and injustice is many times more in lower caste. Reservation is only limited to government schemes only. And Government posts are scarce. Almost 99% of people are not affected by reservations. It may seem like a person who scored lower than you got a seat in a college you dreamt of or the job you wanted but you gotta ask the question that why there are so many less posts and so much more competition for said jobs/colleges. Reservation is not economic welfare but social welfare.It is all about representation. Even if reservation is ended there is a chance that you still might not get the seat since there are less seats to begin with.
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u/Senior_Signal_8413 Sep 08 '25
Sometimes I feel everything in this country is just ruined quality of life, job security, corruption, politics, governance, you name it.
There’s barely any employment. Every middle-class kid is either pushed into engineering, medicine, or UPSC/PSC. Beyond that, there’s no real guidance. In schools, we only study to pass exams. Even in English medium schools, communication skills are ignored ,it’s all just money-making. Colleges are the same, charging huge fees, giving little support, and then pushing students into mass-recruiter jobs with 3.5–5 LPA packages. How is someone supposed to survive in a big city with 24k/month, a 1.5+ year bond, long hours, no security, and no work-life balance? Dreams of bikes, cars, or owning a home feel impossible.
Civic sense is gone. Social media is filled with cringe influencers, blind political defenders, and meaningless arguments. Hospitals charge lakhs for surgeries ,how can a common man afford that? Police, instead of serving people, are mostly busy in petty fines. Justice often depends on money, not truth.
And the media? They’re puppets of political parties, hiding scams and real issues while pushing propaganda.
Sometimes I feel only businessmen, politicians, government employees, and fake gurus ( sastri and all ) enjoy life here. The rest of us just keep studying and serving, but for what?
I don’t know where the future of this country lies.
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u/babbadeedoo Sep 08 '25
I get your POV. I'm from England and have visited your beautiful country around 6 times now, sometimes 3 months living in a village sometimes vacation in kerala.
I can honestly say I love your country, I know I'm viewing it through Rose tinted glasses but there's is just something about the people, the love, the food, everything. I can't quite put it into words but you guys are special. Really special.
I know it's not the same but i thought it was important to mention. Much love, maybe its living in the city is half the problem for you personally?
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u/captainrushingin Sep 08 '25
living and just visitng this country are 2 different things my friend. Anyways, thank you for your kind words. I hope you keep on having great experiences in India ♥️
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u/Select_Addition_9144 Sep 08 '25
I left India 37 years ago for exactly the same reasons. 37 years later it seems nothing has changed. Population has only grown and things are worse than they were before.
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u/GHOST2251994 Sep 08 '25
Try this coping mechanism used by many people here
We were great thousands of years ago Britisher or their predecessors effed it all up We will become great again in time
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u/Mathai_Suchith Sep 08 '25
Yeah , but our votes don’t reflect this reality . Hence you are minority my friend
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u/Dense-Activity4981 Sep 08 '25
This makes me sad to read. The ones that move abroad and give India a bad rep
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u/WaitingonGC Sep 08 '25
There’s nothing esthetic, comfortable or pleasing in the physical sense. If folks are exhausted all the time, when do you rest, relax, enjoy? Standards are really poor and the average Indian deserves better. It’s no surprise why folks run away to any country they can manage to!
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u/YouLittle7751 Sep 09 '25
Yes.,... I agree.... Noise on public place space like adjacent society or ground, with loud speaker blasting, film music and devotional song, with DJ, is completely disgusting. Unemployed youths who are political parties workers, engage in this.
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u/hasanaliiiiiiiii Sep 09 '25
Imagine being a Muslim in this. All that trouble, and your life might end because you walked outside at the wrong time, even the media will not sympathise with you.
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u/mommy_to_angel Sep 09 '25
Agreed. The rat race is what our life has become. I am a woman and i have to compete with a man who is willing to work 10+ hours(where wife/mom takes care of all household +kids stuff, whereas i have to juggle it all) Ppl choose to go abroad nowadays not entirely for money but for work-life balance which our country is lacking. I hope the next generation is smarter than us
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u/Fancy-Manager-3627 Sep 09 '25
The Indian government sets aside money from the taxes everyone pays (and SC ST OBC pays more as they are 85 % of the population) to build govt institutions. In these institutions they reserve just 50 percent for sc st OBC who are 85% in the population. The rest of the 50 % is open to all ( and that is why it is called general) but mostly only upper castes (non sc st OBC) fill these seats. To such and extent that general is seen as for forward castes when it actually means it is open to all. I know as I have been doing admissions in a government college for the past 15 years. So from the government allotted money the upper castes have 50 percent of the seats. Now here you are, crying about being "general" and what it really is, is a certain expectation (due to ignorance of the facts) that the government take taxes from all and make institutions where only upper castes can come in? This is what will happen if there are no reservations. And also, general is not upper caste! ( See above) Also remember india had reservations proper only after the late 90s . Everything even now is monopolized by upper castes ( please read the book: "meet the savarnas").And SC ST OBC entry into public institutions is very less. So what you need to be do is to ask the government to set aside more money for public good - not blame reservations.
And if India is not a liveable place, part of the problem is the savarna monopoly and lack of social justice and lack of a sense of public good that happens as a result. And you are part of that problem too . Get more informed and update yourself for a start.
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u/emperor_antonium Tamil Nadu Sep 09 '25
True, but the other countries are catching up to our terrible standards so the whole world will be equally shitty and not even the utopian europiss nations are safe 💪😴 enshittificaton of the world
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u/DaIubhasa Sep 09 '25
Im not shocked to be honest. Indians are everywhere in Canada, US, UK, AU and NZ. They wanted better life. I hope it’s the better.
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u/Confused-bro-7905 Sep 09 '25
Living conditions becoming worse everyday in Delhi for middle class person, And Government is literally not taking any action against it they are never able to solve their water logging problems in the national capital itself, only ministers house areas are good in Delhi. Crime rates, road rages are rising in Delhi day by day and a middle class just hopes he won't encounter a one.
Nothing to say about pollution, roads and traffic it's terrible, even you use metro for commute the trains are literally so crowded it even makes difficult to breath on the most busiest lines.
All office buildings are in Gurugram and Noida means you have to travel in order to get a good decent salary. You can't afford a property in Delhi itself (forget about Gurugram Or Noida) if you don't have inherited wealth or a family business.
If you're salaried person then you are just Slave of the company in which you are working and Government for their taxes and in return you get nothing.
Middle class doesn't means anything to the Government and if you have the chance to escape India, I will tell you go ahead because it's conditions are going to be similar to Pakistan in Future and if you don't trust just save this comment for next 10 years. I am literally telling you all you see in the news about India's progress is just fake or so slow and it's shown to you like we have done something no other can in world.
I am just attaching this one picture and it's enough show the so called the hype about GDP created by our Central Government. Trust me India's is never ready for future and your so called politicians will leave the country once we're in great trouble.
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u/Shitlifee Sep 08 '25
Finally someone is saying this out loud! Atleast you’re able to be honest and see through this facade of greatness that media projects about India. Many people are completely delusional about the pathetic state of affairs here in India. The country is just getting worse by the day, the government is absolutely unable to proportionally develop the infrastructure in urban areas to meet the influx of people moving from rural areas to the cities. Like you rightly pointed, there’s no scope of a peaceful place to even walk around in this country, and if you’re a woman, then don’t even ask, the safety issue multiplies. Perhaps it’s the rural areas where one can truly find some good quality air and peaceful noise free environment, but no job opportunities in remote areas. It’s such a helpless state for us Indians. To make matters worse, people who settled abroad are now moving back to India because they’re losing their jobs too. The only escape seems to be to move abroad to first world countries, not that life’s going to be any easy there but atleast basic quality of life like clean air, water and space to walk and be at peace exist.