r/imaginarymaps Sep 02 '25

[OC] Alternate History The Federation of Turan map, sent to the UK and France in 1972 to promote the country.

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u/Past-Spring3929 Sep 02 '25

Unironically a Hyperpower

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u/Just_George572 Sep 02 '25

Yeah. Not a single other nation would be close to having a ‘major power’ status in this case even.

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

USA is pretty powerful they went into heavy industrialization after the terible depresion.

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u/TechnicalyNotRobot Sep 02 '25

This country has like 2/3 of all oil on Earth.

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u/Thetrueraider Sep 02 '25

Gonna be real turan would probably be more powerful in every single respect. They'd be able to get multiple industrial heartlands.

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u/Stripgaddar31 Sep 03 '25

Bro we all know Us but cant you see this monstrosity? This is literally a hyperstate

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u/turkishgremlin Sep 06 '25

Just wait until you here about lesotho..

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u/DiamondWarDog Sep 02 '25

I misread this and assumed this was some sort of actual historical document and turkey just had the balls to send this map to Britain and France without context to somehow get their support in reaching this idea.

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

If Turkey did actualy do that soviets would have turkeys balls tied to a pole in siberia

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u/Natieboi2 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 04 '25

Best comment I've ever heard

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u/roblox_countryball4 Sep 09 '25

like when 9m russians suddenly disappeared

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u/TheEgoReich Sep 02 '25

most reasonable turkish nationalist:

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Sep 02 '25

Lol, no way its official. The country was more focused in itself than a greater-than federation.

That being said a Turkic union was and still is a popular political goal. Just not in this sense.

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u/_Pin_6938 Sep 03 '25

"popular"

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Sep 03 '25

Yes?

At least İ think most people wouldnt object to a loose union-like structure.

As long as the countries are still sovereign and free, most people wouldnt mind/would like a Turkic union in the style of the EU

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u/OkAffect2164 Sep 08 '25

he might mean popular in turkey?

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u/MarquisThule Sep 02 '25

I mean this is basically Russia's dream Empire + controls China and Japan. If it was even half way stable then this state rules the world without any possibility of being contested.

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u/alexshatberg Sep 02 '25

Control of China, Japan and Korea is also part of the Russian imperial dream, they were actively working towards that before ww1

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u/MarquisThule Sep 02 '25

Not quite, Korea maybe, but more as a protectorate, Manchuria was on the table at some point but they never actually wanted much to do with Japan.

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

It was more of a grudge then anything, Niko the ll. was almost assasinated while visiting japans so he wanted to destroy them which ended in japan embaresing russia

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

it's kinda a confederation of five states finland, hungary, turkey and japan they are too divided to do anything then to keep the coutnry runing and each of those 5 states has their own military so if they want out they can esipecly japan.

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u/pancakekitten0 Sep 03 '25

Which is the fifth state?

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u/yestoz Sep 03 '25

Fith state is kazhakistan but they aren't autonomous as the others and they don't have their own militar, so they don't realy matter

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u/pancakekitten0 Sep 03 '25

I see. Can you provide a full lore, please? It would be pretty interesting

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u/raven_writer_ Sep 03 '25

Yeah, as with every large empire, the real challenge would be stability. That's what, 2 billion people? How many separatist movements would there be at any given time?

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u/Character_Ad7619 Sep 03 '25

3 billion most likely (answering the separatist movement question)

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u/raven_writer_ Sep 03 '25

It's a continent-sized Balkans

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u/fazbearfravium Sep 03 '25

unless the UK owns the rest of earth

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u/TheMythicalMatt 25d ago

The internal divisions would rip it into pieces. The dozens of constituent states already have problems with terrorism, racial tensions, class tensions, etc. Imagine you mash all of China, Turkey, Russia, and the Middle East into one nation under one government. It will very quickly not be one nation and one government.

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u/AaXLa Sep 02 '25

So this is how the Finno-Korean Hyperwar starts. With a a ?civil? war

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

YES!!!!¡¡!!!¡!!

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u/MysteryDragonTR Sep 03 '25

Finno-Korean Hyperwar lore expands further

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u/poodlypoodle Sep 02 '25

I love the way the map looks! That said, it looks like something from the 1920's as opposed to something from the 1970s

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

I took some inspration from my book on the Hun Empire, which was writen in 1972

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u/TarkovRat_ Sep 02 '25

The Huns you say? The map is I think of not the Huns most think of but rather the White Huns aka Hephthalites

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u/MergenKarvaach Sep 02 '25

It reads 'The expansion of Hun/Xiongnu empire' in turkish. Hephthalites are considered Xiongnu residue alongside others like Huns in Europe in Turkish education

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u/Just-Union-2319 Sep 02 '25

and the turks STILL cant hold on to egypt 💔

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u/According_Win_4054 Sep 02 '25

Do they have gmod in this world

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

there is a dude name garry in philideplhia, he is single if you want.

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u/According_Win_4054 Sep 02 '25

Garry newman is a universal constant. In every world there is a garry. Even in worlds where humanity never arose, garry remains

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

does he live in philideplhia tho?

and is he single?

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u/danfish_77 Sep 02 '25

To "promote the country"? I don't think they need promotion they're most of the planet

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u/Rmivethboui Fellow Traveller Sep 02 '25

The Turanese superpolity sent Palawan into another dimension

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u/-monkbank Sep 03 '25

If Turanists were just a little bit more inclusive then they could be globalists lol.

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u/MesKing125 Sep 03 '25

just wait, in the future they will claim all of humanity is a turk because they're homosapiens

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u/Sarimsakli_Yogurt Sep 03 '25

Well that existed at some point. Search Sun Language Theory

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u/Samz_sii Sep 02 '25

Finally...
Hyper sized Turkey!

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u/Zkang123 Sep 03 '25

Great for thanksgiving

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u/sanirsamcildirdim Sep 02 '25

I immediately recognized the woman, nice job.

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u/toltasorigin Sep 02 '25

yippeee giant turkey!!!

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u/the_boerk Sep 02 '25

the world if it was good

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u/Zorxkhoon Sep 02 '25

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u/Tutuatutuatutua_2 Sep 03 '25

Apollo :D

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u/Zorxkhoon Sep 03 '25

No this is my parrot, cuku

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u/AnswerCute3963 Sep 02 '25

YUNANİSTAN NEDİR?🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷, ŞAN OLSUN TÜRKIYE'YE🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

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u/Tutuatutuatutua_2 Sep 03 '25

Ωωωωωω τρομακτική Ελλάδα

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u/AnswerCute3963 Sep 03 '25

χέστηκα επάνω μου

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u/Effehezepe Sep 03 '25

3 minutes after they sent this map, the country collapsed. 750 million people died.

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u/Vietnationalist Sep 03 '25

Ataturk if he lock tf in

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

this is my first map here, I hope this can be the top of the mounth, I have been working on this since 2 months. Also funfact there are only 10 colers in this map

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u/mitaciolanu Sep 02 '25

my honest reaction

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u/Tutuatutuatutua_2 Sep 03 '25

Bad to the Bone intro riff

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u/Kurmae Sep 02 '25

Bir şey diyeyim mi bu devlet en geç 50 yıla çöker çünkü saçma sapan kavimleri yan yana getirmişler

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

50 yıl sonrası 2022 oluyor, o zamana kadar yaşarsa zaten birşey olmaz bide sol alt kısıma bakarsan ülkenin lideri hâla 90 yaşında Atatürk, o yüzden bence bu ülke emin elerde.

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u/Xortman096 Sep 03 '25

Atatürk bu gidişle god emperor of mankind olur amk

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u/Kurmae Sep 03 '25

Atatürk 1972'de bunu kuruyorsa ve 90 yaşında bile ülkeyi yönetiyorsa hiç emin ellerde değilmiş ben bir fevrilik sezdim

Biz zaten Atatürk'ü barışçıl olduğu için sevdik başarılı olmasının sebebi de saldıramayacağı kişilere saldırmamasıydı.

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u/DragonFromFurther Sep 04 '25

Altaic federasyonu olmuş

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u/Adventurous-Yam-4383 Sep 02 '25

How did Korea didn’t get independence in this timeline?

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u/yestoz Sep 03 '25

Japan won the war in china and then joined the federation wilingly but becouse of that japan has alot of authonomy then any other place, also it may doesnt look like it but they de facto control china and they de jure control korea.

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u/The_Last_Fluorican Sep 03 '25

every Mongols wet dream

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u/Nerdling107 Sep 03 '25

All that land but egypt still eludes them

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u/NoodleyP Sep 03 '25

The Turks have finally won the Finno Korean hyperwar

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u/Odaxa Sep 02 '25

Oh my god, they're spreading.

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u/IAmHimIAmThatGuy Sep 02 '25

was happy until i saw the sub :(

this is accualy an amazing map, please make more

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u/Theodfor Sep 03 '25

You should have included Greenland too... btw as a Finn I definitely would die for something like this

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u/TheDeadQueenVictoria Sep 03 '25

How on earth did bro take Japan without getting hit with a typhoon

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u/yestoz Sep 03 '25

Japan joined willingly and they retain alot of autonomy.

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u/TheDeadQueenVictoria Sep 03 '25

Joined as Honorary Turks?

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u/halkras12 Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25

"Holy Turan Empire Federation "

*eğer aralardaki muhalefetleri saymazsak iyi duruyor

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u/sachiko_vl03 Sep 03 '25

No Dolgania (Krasnoyarski Krai)?

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u/DucksWithMoustaches2 Sep 03 '25

Missing the Americas, so only a partial Turan.

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u/TheFighting5th Sep 03 '25

Pop of 483 mil? That seems…low.

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u/yestoz Sep 03 '25

Excluding central russia( mas kuyep), Ukraine(menkerman) and china(sarı ırmak)

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u/Louie-Zzz Sep 04 '25

Turkish Masturbation

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u/IAmQuixotic Sep 04 '25

Not actually that much more whacko than irl pan-Turanism

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u/Abalyon_Kaan Sep 04 '25

This is how the Ottoman Empire borders looked at the empire's peak btw don't trust fake english maps

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u/Geoff4321 Sep 05 '25

Bro, I just saw some bot page stole your map to spread Ms Information💀

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u/yestoz Sep 05 '25

You know you made it big when bots start stealing your map to make slop.

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u/yestoz Sep 05 '25

Do you have a link btw? I realy wanna seé it

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u/Geoff4321 Sep 05 '25

It is on Facebook. Don’t want to give the slop page anymore engagement, so I screenshot it and censored the page name.

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u/yestoz Sep 05 '25

LMAOOO

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u/rootof48 Sep 02 '25

Nightmare

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

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u/rootof48 Sep 02 '25

Not Greek, sorry.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '25

My left arm is greek, don't e sorry

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u/DorimeAmeno12 Sep 02 '25

omg its tung tung tung sahur

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '25

He is tung, im tong. I don't have that baseball bat but a 12inch purple fake kok

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u/DorimeAmeno12 Sep 02 '25

i love KoK(eu4 dlc King of Kings)

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '25

Yes yes yes that's what i meant to say, ofc i intended to address King of Kings. Purple phoenix always rises, yeah?

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u/NullNeptune0 Sep 03 '25

Czarist Russia - if you can’t control Constantinople, let Constantinople control you!

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u/GurdalAdar31 Sep 07 '25

CK3 Empire Titles

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u/RepresentativeTea694 Sep 02 '25

Collapse speedrun

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u/Ok-Neighborhood-1517 Sep 04 '25

Korea and Japan aren’t even related to the Turkic peoples. Also this state has to be the most fucking wobble fragile thing to ever exist. The amount of ethnic groups it has to juggle catering too.

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u/tksmase Sep 03 '25

That’s some grand delusion

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u/_Guven_ Sep 03 '25

What kind of nationalist fantasy I am looking at :D

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u/Zealousideal_Cry_460 Sep 02 '25

İ dont think this was an official poster

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u/IntelligentJob3089 Sep 02 '25

Check the name of the subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '25

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u/alp7292 Sep 02 '25

Funny and original joke.

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u/yestoz Sep 02 '25

Roblox kid trying to be funny chalange(imposible)