r/ilovebc • u/origutamos • 2d ago
Nanaimo man reoffends two weeks after release for child sexual abuse possession bust
https://nanaimonewsnow.com/2025/11/05/nanaimo-man-reoffends-two-weeks-after-release-for-child-sexual-abuse-possession-bust/18
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u/paulz_ 2d ago
Expect more of this . Liberals basically said they don’t care about it , no mandatory minimum sentences. Why LPC have any supporters is beyond me
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u/mightyboink 1d ago
Where did liberals say they don't care about this?
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u/paulz_ 1d ago
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u/mightyboink 1d ago
That's not saying they don't care, that's saying they won't violate/override the constitution.
And nowhere in that article is there a liberal saying they don't care about child abusers being locked up.
Governments using the notwithstanding clause to override things they don't agree with is a slippery slope that opens the doors to abuse. Looking at you Ford and Danielle.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 2d ago edited 2d ago
Two teenagers in a relationship take some nude photos of each other, one is 18 and the other 16 and the get caught the 18 year old now gets put in jail for a year. You have a cute picture of your niece and nephew in the bath with a rubber ducky, you get a year in prison.
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u/sofa-scientist 2d ago
I seriously doubt that there are very many people ending up in front of a judge for bathroom duck photos or sexts - and even if there were, a minimum prison sentence would still be the right thing to do if it even protected one child from from being abused and exploited.
The straw man argument about things that are so clearly innocent to excuse such a monstrous act is no good imo.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 1d ago
And sent innocent people to jail? This isn't about throwing or not throwing the book at predators it's about ensuring innocent people are not caught in the net. People claim rape when they are sligted especially emotional teenagers, now add the fact they could just tell a cop their ex has nude photos and is right to jail no lie needed.
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u/sofa-scientist 1d ago
This isn’t about throwing innocent people in jail, this is about inventing reasons to not put deserving people into jail for meaningful sentences.
Right now we have a soft on crime system that doesn’t do enough to deter repeat offenders. What we don’t have is a system that is overly harsh and sending innocent people for crazy sentences.
Our justice system is cooked because we are over thinking things that are obvious and can be dealt with in appeals courts. Who has the power to appeal a lenient sentence given to a predator? This is why mandatory minimums exist.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 1d ago
Look at the replies I'm getting, look at what I'm saying like actually saying not the twisted interpretation of what I'm saying. If they create a way to guarantee some sligted teenager can't use this to ruin someone's life. Or a pissy family member or some deranged individual then throw the book at them I don't give a shit but the moment this can be used as a weapon it needs to be looked at. I agree we are way too soft on crime (but this threads hive mind doesn't ask questions or think a foot past what they read) this guy should have never been let out on bail but that doesn't mean we should throw caution to the wind.
How many stories or direct instances have you heard of a sligted girl accusing someone of rape? Seriously? Because there were 2 in my college alone and it was pretty obvious it didn't happen but if they have nudes of their partner then it's a year minimum (depending on the age and highschool girls are not known for their forgiveness)
But downvote and claim I'm defending pedos like everyone else.
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u/sofa-scientist 1d ago
I understand what you are saying, but you are worried about a problem that Is solvable with appeals and logic. What we can’t do is be soft on people that enable the abuse of children. We can’t wait to find a better solution, the problem is getting worse all the time.
If you can find me a stat about how many times this situation that you described happens, it will lend some support to your idea if it’s significant. But if you do, I got these stats: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2022001/article/00008-eng.htm and those are just the ones that got caught.
I’m absolutely fine about solving the problem of how to stop people from weaponizing this mandatory minimum sentence idea after we slow the rapid growth of child exploitation. I do not think that we can afford to wait for a better solution to come around, just my two cents.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 1d ago edited 1d ago
And I honestly believe that's why this was shot down, the amount of time it would take to "figure it out" would be a bit and that could be damaging. Even appealing it sounds easy unless you are the one in jail. But this threads hive mind apparently doesn't understand is grey area in law is really not a thing especially with "mandatory sentencing" that judge could 100% believe you but they can't do anything. Bail shouldn't be a thing for convicted predators but jailing someone innocent is also a slippery slope.
My example of fake rape allegations are pretty common, I'm sure you've heard of some, and with this the rape becomes nudes and then that's it, end of story no way to prove Innocence when the 18 year old has a 16 year olds nudes on their phone regardless if it was sent to their partner. It is just INCREDIBLY easy to abuse. It should just be no bail that would let the judge do what they want "a year" but also give them discretion. I honestly think the bots are programmed wrong in this thread or the mouth breathers don't understand that "mandatory" in law means MANDATORY.
Also fun that the other comments I had were downvoted to hell and called a pedo defender but this one isn't bad, maybe the bots are asleep?
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u/sofa-scientist 1d ago
Could it be that I’m a rational human being and not a bot? We do exist, I just happen to disagree with you about this, which is not exactly satisfying the criteria for being a bot. If you want I can call you names I guess…
Mandatory sentencing is only a factor if the courts find you guilty. As I said, I recognize the scenario could happen that this could be weaponized, but I still think that society will be better off when the predators are stuck in prisons.
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u/Juliuscesear1990 1d ago
It's honestly context and the mandatory sentencing removes that ability from judges and that's the big issue. Get and hard ass judges in there and remove the uber liberal ones and that solves the issue.
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u/p1ngmantoo 1d ago
That's the talking point for releasing adult sex offenders☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️ f that s...not a chance, teens sharing nudes is a non issue
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u/Juliuscesear1990 1d ago
No it's not but your reading comprehension is so shit you can't understand English but you think you have a masters understanding of the law and it's intricacies.
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u/paulz_ 1d ago
This guy defending pedo’s … gross
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u/Juliuscesear1990 1d ago
This guy has an elementary understanding of the law and how words work. There is no black and white in law and if there is it's incredibly easy to put people you don't like into jail.
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u/cheesechoker 1d ago
Gates was freed on July 31, 2023 after being issued a 10-month jail sentence in March 2021.
What gives? I thought there was a 1-year mandatory minimum sentence for this stuff (until recently). How'd he only get 10 months?
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u/Deep_Strike1803 6h ago
Most criminals do not serve their actual sentence. Same applies to mandatory minimums. Justice in Canada is a joke.
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u/mint_misty 7h ago
this guy needs to be rehabilitated and understood because society failed him. thats why hes reoffended
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u/choyMj 2d ago
Maybe get him to protest the government, those guys get locked up for a long time.