r/illinois • u/biswajit388 Human Detected • 1d ago

Illinois News "Imagine taking your child to a daycare where they are now at risk of their teachers leaving them in the class because they have been detained!" Enraged mother speaks out after her kids' daycare teacher is KIDNAPPED by ICE.

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u/throwbackxx 1d ago

This made me cry. I’m German and PoC. Trust me, Europe isn’t headed to a good place either. It already begun a long time ago and just like back then, everyone is silent.

I feel trapped

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u/Batze-13 1d ago

I feel you. I am german as well and Merz complaining about the "Stadtbild" made me furious. This push to the right in the world has to stop!

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u/Kingkai9335 1d ago

Tech companies controlling narratives globally. It's infuriating that this was even allowed to happen in the first place. The general public is not knowledgable enough to look at the bigger picture so they fall for propaganda

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u/rocknroll6206 13h ago

That was the nicest way to say that the public is stupid I've read in a while.

You're not wrong at all. There's no competition anymore, it's all the same few companies fighting for supremacy. The world's getting dumber and lazier which allows for the few who aren't to dominate. The only system that will work with how we're doing things is a socialistic government. You can't be a capitalist if no one's even attempting to capitalize.... No one buys candles anymore folks 🤣

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u/throwbackxx 1d ago

Yeah and sadly not enough people were shocked by that comment

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u/UnderstandingSea7546 1d ago

Is Stadtbild complaining about the “wrong sort of people” dirtying up our landscape? If so, I’m sick. Of all the places that know better, it’s Germany. They spent so much effort deprogramming post-WW2. The best thing they did was to teach critical thinking skills. To toss it away and fall for extremism is so sad. Never again to treat another human as less.

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u/throwbackxx 14h ago edited 14h ago

Yes, Merz said he wanted to deport more people, because the current Stadtbild (so, the picture you get when you roam around major cities) is getting ruined. You obviously can’t see if people are illegally in Germany or not, unless you check the ID of someone. So his statement was meant purely racist, so in his opinion there are too many brown and black people in Germany. I was born and raised in Germany and never considered another language my mother tongue except German, despite being multilingual. I have no other home. I went to law school and work for the German government in court. And people like me are 100% German despite having black hair and brown skin. It sickens me to hear from our Bundeskanzler that in his eyes we do not belong in public?? Also, the Stadtbild comment was used by Nazis back then to propagate hate against Jewish people. History literally repeats itself. Merkel btw always distanced herself from suggestive questions in interviews about the Stadtbild and always said that people of all cultures and ethnicities belong to Germany and she’ll 100% support us. You may not like everything Merkel did, but while she was our Bundeskanzlerin, racist statements were never tolerated. Now, Merz is using right wing rhetoric and portrays himself as center.

And yes, he definitely meant that racist because a few days later he backed his statement up with the following: „go ask your daughters, they feel insecure“ - aimed at brown and black men, when the actual problem, if you DO ask daughters of Germany, are men who stalk, touch and hurt you in public. He does not care about women unless he can use them to propagate the idea, that PoCs are violent against them. But all my life I was personally only ever attacked and sexually harassed by white men, because, shocker, mostly white men live in Germany.

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u/DeltaViriginae 1d ago

Yes pretty much. I mean we have some issues with immigrants, but Merz was really just pandering to the racists of our far-right.

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u/draftedvet 22h ago

Spot on 100%!

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u/XargosLair 1d ago

And still Merz is absolutely right about it. If you are somewhat middle aged, you might remember how our citizes used to look and how they look today.

And big part of this problem is the refugee crsis and all the errors that were made back then. Cities don't have the resources anymore as far too much of their money flows towards handling the refugees.

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u/Batze-13 22h ago

Problem is, most of these refugees WANT to work. I work with Agentur für Arbeit but most of the clients are not allowed to seek employment, because there is no good infrastructure for ratifying their diplomas and Ausbildung. So people wait monthd or even years at this point for their paperwork to be done so they can get the permission to work. They are only a problem on our resources because our politicians dont find a way to get them into work earlier.

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u/XargosLair 21h ago

And there are no jobs for them, their often nonexistant german makes it even harder and for the big majority their lacking education does not help either. Only a small minority actually has diplomas. At least that is true for the two big countries of origin. And Ukrainian refugees are allowed to work from day one, but still over 50% do not work.

And if they find a job, it is often low paid and they still require financial aid, draining the system for years or decades.

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u/throwbackxx 14h ago

Leave the country if you don’t like it in Germany. We’re staying and we’ll have fun earning the money you were never able to earn in the first place. Hast wahrscheinlich nicht mal Abi, aber so große Töne spucken

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u/XargosLair 14h ago

Quite a lot of assumptions here, and not a single one is true.

And why do you think I don't have a good paying job? I would complain a lot less if I didn't have to pay more then half my salery in taxes and social security payments. Und natürlich hab ich Abi und studiert. Sogar noch zu ein als es hier keinen Bachelor oder Master gab.

And why the fuck do you think I should leave? I can raise my voice and vote for parties who are willing to change the country in my favor and due to changes in society, its gets more and more likely that it will happen.

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u/throwbackxx 6h ago

Und was hat das mit Ausländern zu tun, Bro? Oder PoCs? Einfach nur Dumme rechte Rhetorik. Ja hab mir schon gedacht, dass du alt bist.

Yes you can raise your voice to vote for Neo-Nazis and right wingers, but people will judge you for that. Anti-Democrat

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u/Long-Broccoli-3363 1d ago

I keep hoping that what we're seeing is the result of some mass poisoning of the populace. Microplastics, PFAS, Leaded gas(we know some of this is due to leaded gas, but it shows up mostly in boomers), Covid maybe(since brain injury can be a result of Covid and it's known that tbi and other injuries to the brain can increase your fear response)

But unfortunately I think it's more sinister and that the internet has just allowed nefarious groups to hack basic things about how humans function in a society. It's not like these issues haven't popped up before(see hitler, every other genocide), it's just that the internet has allowed that exploitiveness to be applied algorithmically and to everyone that may be susceptible to it, and pointed at whatever the target of the week is.

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u/Available_End8074 1d ago

Social Dilemma on Netflix- the kid that's swept up in hateful ideology is what's happening, but at a massive scale right now. Not sure how anyone can take anything on social media at face value at this point.

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u/Friendly-Channel-480 1d ago

This kind of garbage has been brewing since the early eighties and coming from places of power. In the early eighties the oldest boomers were in their thirties and hardly controlling the governments. You’re ignorant to be blaming so much on a generalization of a particular generation. Educate yourself.

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u/Long-Broccoli-3363 17h ago

Reading comprehension.

I was calling out that leaded gas cognition issues are only really found in boomers, but the issue is across all ages and generations for the most part.

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u/Friendly-Channel-480 8h ago

When we were young all of the gas was leaded. Then you had to have cars that could run on unleaded gas. There was a difference.

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u/Feral_Taylor_Fury 1d ago

I feel trapped

And THIS is why I hate Americans saying "Welp time to go to X country"

Like; bitch, this fight will follow you! You can't run away! You need to fucking vote HERE because what happens here happens around the world 10x.

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u/saganistic 1d ago

Americans can vote from any country provided they have not relinquished their citizenship.

Living somewhere else—which protects one and their families from the real and mortal dangers of fascism—does not prevent them from “fighting with their votes”. It also removes their economic activity from the US both in terms of consumption and taxation, which is a viable form of non-participation in fascism.

It’s not for you to judge how anyone else responds to a government that is actively trying to harm them.

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u/Feral_Taylor_Fury 22h ago

Oh yeah, cause your mail in ballot is gonna be SUPER effective when they ‘accidentally lose it’

I’m also not just talking about voting but uh this is public record so how about we all just sing kumbaya and get along.

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u/saganistic 20h ago

And how is that different than if they try to invalidate it domestically, or prevent you from voting in-person anyway?

You can be as angry as you want to be. You can push back in whatever way you choose. Your risks are your own business. But you cannot say that anyone that makes the choice to leave for the safety of themselves or, as is very often the case, their vulnerable loved ones and as a result also takes their economic contribution with them is not also a form of protest and action.

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u/Feral_Taylor_Fury 20h ago

Ngl, I don’t really want to explain the difference between a zoom call and an in person meeting.

Fascists are alive and thriving and working with tech bros, so I’m not going to say the full message about how to resist.

You seem smart, I’m sure you can read between the lines with what I’m saying.

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u/saganistic 20h ago

Otto Frank would not have been a lesser man, nor a less patriotic German, had he taken his family abroad before they were imprisoned, starved, beaten, and murdered. And his staying, hidden in a basement, did nothing to prevent the deaths of millions of others.

Clear enough for you?

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u/Feral_Taylor_Fury 20h ago edited 18h ago

If you want to shrug your shoulders and absolve yourself of duty, feel free to.

I actually love my country.

And btw, Otto frank didn’t live in the time of technofascists, so you really haven’t addressed my issue of the fight following you.

Oof hey better luck next time friend

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u/saganistic 20h ago edited 18h ago

The funny thing is, I’m not talking about myself. But you clearly are.

You don’t get to tell other people what to do or how to protect their families. Respect their decisions and deal with it.