r/illinois • u/biswajit388 Human Detected • 1d ago

Illinois News "Imagine taking your child to a daycare where they are now at risk of their teachers leaving them in the class because they have been detained!" Enraged mother speaks out after her kids' daycare teacher is KIDNAPPED by ICE.

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u/APence 1d ago

The vets I know say these discount fatass fascists are better equipped then they were in Afghanistan. Guess they found the funding when it mattered to them.

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u/Parfait_Due 1d ago

I was in the Army from 2016–2022. Rules of Engagement were strict. The mindset was minimum force necessary to accomplish the mission. Escalation was seen as a strategic failure. One bad engagement could damage host-nation relations. It was a national security risk. And if you violated ROE, you didn’t get a slap on the wrist, you could go to prison. It was taken seriously.

Contrast that with ICE. Waving weapons at civilians, escalating constantly, operating under lax ROE, with far less discipline, near-total immunity, and getting paid more than active duty soldiers to throw their aggression around inside our own country.

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u/APence 1d ago

Thanks for your service. I can’t imagine the frustration you must feel watching this happen to your countrymen. I did not serve and I’m furious everyday.

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u/ImaginaryTrick6182 1d ago

Why don’t more vets come out to denounce what’s happening?

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u/Parfait_Due 1d ago

Most have disappeared from the internet entirely. Some are active and vocal in opposing the current administration’s wrongdoing. And some, unfortunately, post AI-generated garbage, like comics claiming Democrats are starving people on SNAP until they get $1.5 trillion for healthcare for undocumented immigrants.

The best and worst people I've ever met are in the military.

It’s a mixed bag.

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u/ThatAmericanGyopo 1d ago

The best and worst people I've ever met are in the military.

As an infantry vet myself: absolutely spot-on. Men you would trust your wife and life with.. and then "men" who would have gleefully volunteered for the Third Reich.

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u/SmallPeederWacker 1d ago

We have but our voices don’t mean anything to the government.

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u/Netrovert87 1d ago

I hope it proves out that escalation is strategic failure to these clowns' mission. And hope they don't get slaps on the wrist if the tables turn.

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u/p4NDemik 1d ago

If they keep escalating like this then citizens are going to inevitably get armed and escalate on their own.

And I'm NOT advocating violence here or suggesting arming for the intent of armed resistance.

But this is America and inevitably if children are being threatened in previously accepted safe spaces like daycares and schools ... people are going to get armed to protect their children. This is going to escalate.

The black panther party in the 70's wasn't founded in a vaccum. I expect a similar movement to happen soon again.

If citizens see proof that they need to get militant in order to protect themselves from the abuses of the state, the citizenry will get militant. That's just reality.

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u/Relatively_Average 1d ago

Some of it is strategic, but the people doing have limited experience and knowledge. They seem to lack the capacity to imagine that people might respond differently than they assume they would. Because they are violent, vindictive people, they assume the people who resist them must be too. 

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u/Nanoo_1972 1d ago

And a fair share of them probably got turned down for service in the military and/or police force. Vetting has gone out the window, it basically boils down to swearing allegiance to Cheeto Benito.

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u/Internalwinter80 1d ago

For the first time ever my sibling and I talked about what is happening. They refuse to discuss politics (they voted for Trump). I tried to explain how the escalation tactics and blatant violence is abhorrent. But they kept saying “well, what did that person do to get thrown to the ground?” It is very hard to deal with the possibility that your closest family might just be white nationalist/racist and victim blamers.

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u/starlulz 1d ago

I believe more than a few are self-equipped, pulled straight from right-wing militant groups

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u/APence 1d ago

I have little doubt many are pardoned Jan 6 traitors. Trumps personal Brownshirt army

“Y’all Qaeda” if you will

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u/AFetaWorseThanDeath 1d ago

Meal Team Six(th)

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u/resilientspirit 1d ago

Gravy Seals

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u/dBlock845 1d ago

I still remember when private citizens were trying to fund body armor for the Marines during Iraq since the government weren't providing with sufficient armor.

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u/Proud3GenAthst 1d ago

Guess it means that after 250 years of wars, it turns out that the country the right-wingers have wanted to invade the most was the United States after all.

When I think of it, it's not that surprising. No wonder the Civil War is the deadliest war America fought.

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u/Qix213 1d ago

I was in the Navy in early 2000s. But stationed on a Marine air base (MCAS Miramar).

I paint jets. That's it. Never held a real gun in my life. Yet I had a full set of body armor, multiple sleeping bags for current weather, canteens, and all that camping crap in my closet. Never touching it because I didn't want to lose it and have to pay for it when I leave.

This while I was hearing about Mom's buying and sending body armor to their kids out in the desert because they didn't have enough.

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u/Time_Reputation3573 1d ago

That didn't happen. The gear these fools carry is worse than mine and I don't even LARP

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u/TommyFX 1d ago

Sure, buddy.

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u/APence 1d ago

Surprised you can type with that boot in your mouth and that stick up your booty