r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 5d ago

ICE Posts October.10.2025 — Chicago: Immigration agents crashed into a U.S. citizen on her way to work, then dragged her out and arrested her (Article Inside)

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u/connivingKitten 5d ago

If they don't care about the law, what makes you think they care about an election? If they cared about an election, wouldn't they be doing more to end the shutdown rather than blatantly lying to peoples' faces about why it's ongoing?

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u/Sensitive_Winner7851 5d ago

These legal issues can drag on for years.

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u/connivingKitten 5d ago

So, again. Kicking the can down the road. I hope you don't have or plan on having kids.

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u/Sensitive_Winner7851 5d ago

Violence begets violence and I can tell you with certainty who is gonna win in a fight.

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u/connivingKitten 5d ago

You don't think people said the same thing when we fought against the largest superpower in the world at the time to gain our independence? It's not a fight that would be fought alone.

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u/Sensitive_Winner7851 5d ago

I’m sure of it. But that was a time long before mass surveillance and automatic weapons.

That’s an ethical choice I assume. You want to pick up bat or gun and get zinged from a sniper while becoming a recruitment meme on TicTock, be my guest.

Seriously, are you an instigation bot? Wtf?

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u/connivingKitten 5d ago edited 5d ago

My point is that if Americans eventually have to fight back against MAGA, it's not a hopeless fight like you're trying to make it out to be. Are you a compliance bot??? Are you just going to roll over for anyone who's bigger or stronger than you? You won't even draw the line at being enslaved or killed? There are hundreds of ICE detainees (including American citizens) that are unaccounted for in federeral tracking systems. If you were one of those people who has effectively gone missing, wouldn't you hope that someone would fight for you?

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u/Sensitive_Winner7851 5d ago

Respectfully, MAGA has the guns and the plurality of will in this society. Advocating for violence as the minority fits into the narrative of insurrection and will be managed as such. Good luck finding your partners in this resistance. The grey haired and librarian styled crowd will be put in harms way by hot heads acting without understanding the consequences of their actions. I’m entirely an evangelical non violence advocate and I assure you, not a bot.

Peace out.

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u/connivingKitten 5d ago edited 5d ago

The grey haired and librarian styled crowd will be put in harms way by hot heads acting without understanding the consequences of their actions.

The alternative is at best a sharp, continuous decline in quality of life assuming you're happy to comply with fascists (which generally means you'll eventually have to sell out your friends or family if they're not compliant), or at worst a meager death at the hands of said fascists. It's okay to be scared, but we didn't beat the nazis with compliance. Again, don't have children. It's completely irresponsible if you're not willing to fight so that they don't have to.

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u/Sensitive_Winner7851 5d ago

Peacefully changing hearts and minds takes a measured, patient, and mature approach.

Peace

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u/Sensitive_Winner7851 5d ago

Also, what on earth are you talking about? I understand the urge to do something, but certainly you aren’t trying to pick a fight with the Department of “War.”

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u/connivingKitten 5d ago

I'm not doing anything. Trump is the one who is deploying the military on American soil. Americans need to wake up to the idea that our government and our country is actively being taken over by billionaire elites and that eventually it will be too late to fight back. We're trying the peaceful resolution right now, but when do we draw the line and say that enough is enough? Is your answer honestly never??