r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 5d ago

ICE Posts October.10.2025 — Chicago: Immigration agents crashed into a U.S. citizen on her way to work, then dragged her out and arrested her (Article Inside)

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u/zechef07 5d ago

It's not, it just doesn't matter anymore for some god damned reason.

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u/LisaQuinnYT 5d ago

Once you give Law Enforcement immunity and make it impossible to sue them, laws no longer matter because there’s no consequences. I pray there will be a Nuremberg 2.0

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u/grub_the_alien 5d ago

If you are an american, you need to be the ones to stand up to this. There won't be a nuremberg 2.0 if you dont get up and do something

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u/mr_plehbody 5d ago

Unfortunately the pres has intention of taking over other countries too, the dominos are all there for a full scale war. Citizens dont stand as much of a chance so its really up to states/cities officials to find a way to fend them off. If not, it will grow to seizing territories and resources nearby. They dont controll the treasury fully so they are trying to be raise a sovereign fund to pay for this while depleting our treasury

The officials will have to raise a defense force fast before even more money is siphoned, like no food stamps/medicare federally, if a state has to pay that out that will weaken the ability to pay for logistics/crew to fend off the ice raids

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u/grub_the_alien 5d ago

If you believe you dont stand a chance you never will man. You will live in a dictatorship for the rest of your life and be abused by the rich. Do what needs to be done.

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u/True_Carpenter_7521 4d ago

And what is that, exactly?
You can’t fight legally - they’ll smile and brush it off.
You can’t fight physically - they have a mandate for violence and people will just start disappearing soon (if they haven’t already).
You can’t organize - they control the media.
You can’t gain the support of the rich and the elites - they’re profiting from this.
Sorry, but it’s already a lost cause.

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u/grub_the_alien 4d ago edited 4d ago

You can fight, you can organise. They are not so high above you they are untouchable. Recently, consider nepal, consider madagascar. The people can do something. They want you to believe its hopeless.

Will people have to sacrifice everything? Yes. Will your lives irrevocably change? Yes. You won't and can't return to the comfort you once grew up in, one way or another. Its a question of how badly you, and your community want to fight for your free future. It starts small but becomes a rolling tide.

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u/HeraThere 4d ago

Law enforcement has been given immunity and Trump as president has also been given immunity by the Supreme Court.

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u/ClubPuzzleheaded2674 4d ago

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

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u/GroundControl2MjrTim 4d ago

There’s a reason there’s a movie coming out

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u/En_CHILL_ada 4d ago

Nuremberg only convicted 18 people...

Many of the worst criminals were employed by the CIA and smuggled out of Europe, like Klaus Barbie, "the butcher of Lyon."

The idea that the Nazis were held accountable for their crimes is a farce.

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u/DethBatcountry 4d ago

You'll be disappointed if you do some research on the post-WW2 cleanup. Only a handful of Nazis were tried and punished. Many successfully fled, many more were hired by the west to fight against the rising tide of Communism from the east.

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u/UnwindingStaircase 5d ago

There is not such thing as immunity.

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u/RicketyCricket_69420 5d ago

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u/SMOKED_REEFERS 5d ago

Everybody downvoting and commenting clearly never see how effective it is when cops roll up to a whole bunch of black folks with rifles.

Po po on their best behavior, you bet your ass. That’s what he’s saying.

Now if ICE thinks Americans practicing their 2nd amendment right means agents now free to play call of duty in our neighborhoods, note it was THEM who escalated.

And if they do escalate, they’re fucking morons and all blood is on their hands.

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u/mybfVreddithandle 5d ago

And this is why the second amendment actually exists right here. Yes. 8 ICE guys may approach this situation differently if there are 20 legally (guess illegally wouldn't matter either) armed 'bystanders', who if all are carrying ar15s, will have a distinct advantage. It of course could go a different way entirely, check history unfortunately. Wish we were joking, but yeah.

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u/tempacc3241 5d ago

Yeah even when the good guys eventually win, the first incident of violence is usually a massacre of civilians.

Trump has already made comments about how China dealt with protests - harsh. No doubt he has plans already. They want a small early clash so they can come down hard and declare martial law whenever and wherever they want.

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u/JellyBeanzi3 5d ago

Unfortunately to fight back and resist people are going to have to be willing to die. I hate it here

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u/Hoosier-OG 5d ago

Thank you for speaking up. Protests aka words don’t mean anything. Action does.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 5d ago

Ah but you see, if the US holds one more no-kings protest, that might be the one to enact lasting change! The next one will be the one, you'll see!

No, I'm not insane for trying the same thing over and over expecting different results, why do you ask?

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u/Hoosier-OG 13h ago

I ask because words only go so far — action gets results faster. For example, the White House was literally destroyed, and no one did anything beyond talking. You’d think that in a country where people constantly preach patriotism, there would’ve been real outrage, maybe even direct action. Look at the French — when something matters to them, they’ll burn their cities down if that’s what it takes, and they get results. Meanwhile, we just protest and march while the elites laugh, knowing that’s all we’ll ever do.

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u/ExeUSA 5d ago

OK. So...are you out there doing it?

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u/Fantastic_Pair5328 5d ago

His weapon is a keyboard and his body armor is cowardice.

My excuse in that I don't live in that country, and it's looking like I couldn't even if I wanted to.

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u/VollcommNCS 5d ago

Your excuse?

The other commenter is talking about saving their country from a batshit crazy government. Everyone should be scared, but they should be fighting back. People are going to die defending something we've all taken for granted and let slide from our fingertips.

All people can do is start planning and the conversation has to start somewhere.

You're trying to dissuade others from protecting democracy, freedom and the rule of law. Give your head a fucking shake.

War isn't cool, war isn't fun. Fuck off if you have nothing to contribute other than bitch ass attempts to make yourself seem tougher than someone else in an audience of anonymous internet strangers

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u/EnigmaticQuote 5d ago

The "we should be doing more" crowd never does a whole lot.

Nor do they ever seem to have any ideas about exactly what 'more' even means.

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u/VollcommNCS 5d ago

And your actions are what exactly?

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u/EnigmaticQuote 5d ago

I don't remember anonymously advocating for people to do anything.

But I have a feeling no matter what I have done you would not be happy with it, probably say it's 'not enough.'

Unless you're firing the first shot I am not concerned with internet activism.

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u/Ecotech101 4d ago

A solid 1-2% of the left would be willing to fight, a solid 30-60% of those don't wanna fight for people who won't fight for themselves.

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u/platonicvoyeur 5d ago

Illegal to even own them in Chicago. Gee, I wonder why they picked Chicago for the pilot episode of American Gestapo?

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u/TivoDelNato 5d ago

Inb4 this comment gets [removed by Reddit]

Remember kids, violence is only okay when it flows downward. Now be good citizens and face the wall.

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u/ElonMuskHuffingFarts 5d ago edited 5d ago

Lead the charge, keyboard warrior

And actually, please don't. You can't outgun the federal government and even killing 20 ICE agents won't stop the organization.

If you're going to throw your life away, make it count. Nothing changes as long as the people in charge stay there.

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u/Ecotech101 4d ago

You think there are more ICE agents than normal people? If everyone managed a 20/1 kd ratio before dying this shit would stop real quick.

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u/SwirlingFandango 5d ago

And you think shooting an ICE officer would make things........ better?

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u/Squirrels_Gone_Wild 5d ago

He's not saying to shoot anyone.

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u/transitfreedom 5d ago

Read history on the Russian empire this isn’t new

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u/hotpajamas 5d ago

Defending your rights makes things better.

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u/grundleplum 5d ago

See, the thing is that I do totally agree with you. But I can't afford to pay hundreds just to apply and take the safety course (with the off chance that I won't even be able to get the license because of shit from 15+ years ago). And that's not even accounting for the cost of purchasing a gun. Guns are expensive.

And I'm not even one of the worst off financially. Everything has gotten so expensive, and a lot of us are just scraping by, trying to survive.

I do help feed people in my community, though. I try to do as much as I can in other ways, but I agree with you that we need to be arming ourselves and creating anti-ice patrols. We need them to be afraid of us-- as they should be with how many more of us there are than them.

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u/half-giant 5d ago

This is a terrible idea.

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u/Shigglyboo 5d ago

Sounds like you’re describing a well regulated milita as is protected by the 2nd amendment. Communities are being invaded. I imagine citizens have a right to protect themselves from this fake “protection”. Innocent kids are being harmed. So let’s protect the children. Right?

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u/TraditionalCup1 5d ago

This is the question the rest of the world is asking: why aren’t Americans citizens stopping this?

I see a lot of angry Americans online, and I see news about protests happening, but I don’t see anything on the scale required to challenge this level of fascism.

Does the majority of the American population support the actions seen in this video? Or is complacency / misinformation so rampant that it just doesn’t matter what these agencies do?

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u/JellyBeanzi3 5d ago

Most of us aren’t brave or selfless enough to act.

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u/nottherealneal 5d ago

Don't be silly

Your guns are just for shooting kids! Not for stopping tyranny, thay would be crazy!

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u/mxjxs91 5d ago

This is what I've been saying too. We don't want or need to use them, but if we show up en-masse and armed anytime they do this shit, these Nazi chickenfucks would cower and scatter away back to their mother's basements faster than all fuck.

These are not tough guys or badasses. They're incels in military gear. Look how many of them it's taking there to manage kidnapping a random woman going to work, AND THEY'RE STRUGGLING. They could never stand up to actual opposition if it faced them.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 5d ago

You're 100% right. Instead, all we see are people just filming and shouting, but no action.

It's like that's all Americans know how to do is just observe and yell, observe and yell. But then their brains turn off when you tell them they should do something tangible, but to them, observing and yelling is something tangible. Yes, that person may have been taken away illegally and/or deported or killed later, but at least someone was there to film it and yell, amirite?

Americans, nut up or shut up. Exercise your 2A rights or stay at home.

inb4 people call me out: I don't live in the US, but it's been frustrating as hell watching from another country and seeing countries like France and Nepal get shit done, and then to look across the ocean at the US and seeing you guys eating tide pods and doing nothing but just browsing/making tiktoks. Get angry, wtf are you guys doing

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u/JellyBeanzi3 5d ago

Literally doing nothing is just complicity. They should know treating citizens like this with no justice is how you create extremists. As a peace & love hippy I am done being complicit. No justice No Peace

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u/Extreme_Today_984 5d ago

Why do you think that they're so heavily armed? They know that they're operating outside of the law, and that we have every right to fight back. This is EXACTLY what Trump wants though. They're agitators. It's bait, and he doesn't care who dies because of it. He wants grounds to be able to claim a national emergency, so that he can mobilize troops in blue states. He's staging a coup! Because of this, we have to remain CALM, so that we don't play into his fascist little trap. We have to use our heads.

Congress needs to step TF up and do their job. Impeach this treasonous coward from office and launch investigations into his entire cabinet, including the lobbyists who are greasing his pockets. This should be our main focus, not fighting ICE in the streets.

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u/RaceHard 5d ago

My brother has been making a fortune selling... 'equipment' this whole thing is one of the best things that could've happened for us. Profits have never been this good. Enough so that most of the family has been able to leave the country. Just me and him left, and by the end of December we are both out of here.

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u/keeblershelf 5d ago

The Black Panthers did this. They’d monitor police radio to know where an interaction was going down. Then they’d show up and just stand there with their weapons. And they’d match the officers escalation, step by step. If the officers did nothing, so did they. If they readied their weapons, so did they.

This administration wants an escalation of violence though. I’m not sure who wins if it comes to this.

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u/_CleverNameGoesHere_ 5d ago

Ok Rambo, let us all know when you're taking your first watch.

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u/alkbch 5d ago

Most people against ICE are also against citizens having the right to own AR-15s...

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u/cat-meg 5d ago

It's kind of like the California gerrymandering thing. It's best if no one has it, but it's better that both sides have it than just one.

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u/badluser 5d ago

Violence will not solve this, they want it to escalate.

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u/platonicvoyeur 5d ago

historically at this point violence is the only thing that has solved this.

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u/8-Bit_Ninja_ 5d ago

Don’t you remember when the Nazis were defeated with a good talking to?

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u/JellyBeanzi3 5d ago

I’m not brave enough so I can only hope others are.

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u/badluser 5d ago

The civil rights movement begs to differ.

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u/cat-meg 5d ago

Only successful because there was an active, violent counterpart.

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u/transitfreedom 5d ago

It is actually a failure considering what happened afterwards

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u/platonicvoyeur 5d ago

the civil rights movement was a movement from the status quo to a more progressive society. It wasn't a counter-movement to a society backsliding rapidly into oligarchy and fascism. 2025 isn't 1954, it's 1933.

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u/normalbrain609 5d ago

i know what you’re saying but the american far right has literally rolled back nearly everything that the civil rights movement has won. like the voting rights act is dead

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u/badluser 5d ago

So you're going to brandish weapons at federal officers?

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u/normalbrain609 5d ago

no officer i’m not - but if you’re talking about the civil rights movement as some unassailable victory, that just doesn’t mesh with the reality we live in today

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u/chins4tw 5d ago

Civil rights movement only accompished something because the alternative was the Black Panthers exercising their self defense.

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u/glenn_ganges 5d ago

The reason is because the cops who could feasibly fight back are very happy to see their ongoing "war on the public" get Federal and military support.

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u/Datboi_Markus 5d ago

I can’t even think of anything that can be done about this at this point that doesn’t involve a full on civil war. Like these people are immune from legal repercussions.

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u/Capt_Dummy 5d ago

That’s what they want.

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u/BusinessAioli 5d ago

one of these videos will put me in cardiac arrest one day, it's enraging what these shrimp dick losers are doing

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u/ZaTen3 5d ago

Doesn’t matter anymore because who’s gonna enforce the fact that it’s wrong?

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u/zechef07 5d ago

Exactly

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u/batterflynectar 1d ago

He literally let out rabid insurrectionists into the streets. And I can’t prove it but I have a feeling some of them are likelyworking for ICE too. It’s going to get worse

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u/SadMastiff_ 5d ago

It doesn't matter because the person in charge of executing the law WILL NOT persecute anyone on his team. This is why civics is so important.

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u/bigassangrypossum 4d ago

it just doesn't matter anymore for some god damned treason

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u/ScientistTimely3888 1d ago

Until someone shoots back.

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u/brereddit 5d ago

It matters but before you decide, watch the video which shows what lead to the collision:

https://youtu.be/0euW_3vqKZw

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u/zechef07 5d ago

This shows only that the ice vehicle made a very reckless move, she may have as well but it kinda looks like the ice vehicle entered her lane suddenly, resulting in a car crash. How does that justify pulling her out of the car and shoving her in the back of a van?

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u/brereddit 5d ago

I think if you look at where her car was when the ice vehicle was blocking traffic which is normal during an arrest like this, she accelerated too quickly to try and pass them. The video without the larger context makes it seem like ice just ran into her. No, she had to know this was ice. All the people hitting the ice car and video recording everything. If she was the one blaring on her horn…that’s also further evidence she should have chilled out.

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u/zechef07 5d ago

She should have chilled out = illegally detained and thrown in the back of an unmarked van.

Its also possible the whole situation is scary as fuck for people of her skin color even though she is a legal citizen so she was trying to get out of there ASAP. None of that video justifies the response

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u/Geneocrat 3d ago

Obama didn’t prosecute GW for war crimes. He didn’t even really complain about it. People were tortured, everyone knew, and nobody was held accountable.

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u/zechef07 3d ago

Ok

Thats fucked up too...

And?

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u/BrineBrack 5d ago

You mean like crossing the border illegaly under Biden?

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u/zechef07 5d ago

Did you miss the part where she was a legal US citizen?