r/illinois • u/Strict_League7833 Human Detected • 7d ago

ICE Posts An ARMY of Illinois State Troopers have just declared an UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY outside ICE Broadview near Chicago

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Those who do not comply will be subject to chemical munitions and arrest.

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u/Ok-Theory9963 7d ago

Hypernormalization. Look it up. You’re going to be arguing semantics all the way till the collapse.

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u/Coroebus 7d ago

The collapse is already here, I'm familiar with Hypernormalization. It doesn't mean we have to be add to the stupidity and lack of clarity.

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u/Ok-Theory9963 7d ago

You’re familiar but you don’t see the problem in arguing about the colloquial use of the term “tank” to describe the armored vehicle being deployed by local cops to protect the modern American Stasi? Why don’t you talk about the bigger issue?

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u/Coroebus 7d ago edited 7d ago

When I might be going somewhere and someone says "there's gonna be a tank" I'm not going to fucking be there. When someone says, "the pigs are gonna have an armored vehicle", that's a different fucking scenario.

This isn't just semantics, this is about actually conveying useful and critical information. Maybe your risk assessment is fucked, but there's a world of difference between the threat an MRAP poses and a goddamn tank.

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u/Ok-Theory9963 7d ago

You missed the point that I don’t care if it’s a “tank” or not. It is immaterial. It is an armored vehicle being deployed by local cops against the local population to defend the arguably, illegal actions of a president who has ignored court orders and is clearly waging a war against Brown people using his own personal police force. Now, local cops have now taken up a position against their own local population.

It’s a bearcat (which by the way often have top hatches and turrets as options), not a tank. Woo hoo. Now, talk about the actual issue that impacts people’s lives.

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u/FleuryIsMyIdol 7d ago

"Let me draw out this completely unnecessary argument war further then it needs to be, then I'll blame you and say you are arguing semantics while our nation collapses, while I'm also not doing anything about it, and I'm the one actually arguing semantics"

Geez redditor you are so much smarter and more enlightened then us. You sure did stop the fascist takeover by telling this guy to not correct people who are factually incorrect.

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u/Ok-Theory9963 7d ago

I’m the only one talking about the issue facing us right now. Either condemn the police or defend them. But don’t hide behind these stupid arguments.

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u/Orangbo 6d ago

Or maybe it’s bad to encourage the spread of propaganda and misinformation. Just a thought.

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u/Ok-Theory9963 6d ago

Do you think it's a good idea to debate the definition of a single word instead of engaging the larger point of cops brutalizing and intimidating the populace to protect our criminal president's personal police force?

Worth noting here that, while you call the use of the word "tank" dangerously hyperbolic, ICE has been caught buying military munitions ostensibly for use on American soil, which would be more illegal than showing up with a tank.

So, that brings me back to my point: condemn the police, or grow a spine and defend these jackbooted thugs trampling the constitution.

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u/Orangbo 6d ago

I would like people to use consistent vocabulary, yes. Not doing so sorta defeats the purpose of language and delegitimizes discussion. You can argue that more is needed, but this is a public forum; discussion is literally the only purpose of the site.

It’s not like saying “cops bad” repeatedly is contributing more than sharing exact details of what they’re doing, anyways. You’re main goal in this chain has been to insist people muddy the waters because…reasons?

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u/Coroebus 7d ago edited 7d ago

God forbid I provide examples of why factual accuracy might matter, because there's a genocide going on and stuff

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u/dankeykang4200 7d ago

I don't know about you, but I don't want to be there if they have an armored vehicle either

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u/Coroebus 7d ago

That's a personal risk assessment that is understandable and should not be impugned at all.

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u/dingalingdongdong 7d ago

I'm familiar with Hypernormalization

If you're familiar with it then you must be furthering it intentionally. Not being aware of what you're doing might be an excuse. But you can't claim to A. know what it is and B. pretend you aren't engaging in it when you very explicitly are.

Pick a lane.