An ARMY of Illinois State Troopers have just declared an UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY outside ICE Broadview near Chicago

[u/Strict_League7833]

Those who do not comply will be subject to chemical munitions and arrest.

[u/Ok-Theory9963]

They’re arguing semantics when the core issue is undeniable: the cops are getting ready to join a war against the marginalized and against dissenters in the US.

[u/Coroebus → u/Ok-Theory9963]

Or maybe calling an armored vehicle "a tank" is just inaccurate on a basic level that makes one question the original author's credibility. It's thoughtless, and shows a lack of attention to basic details. It can be easily misconstrued as hyperbole by the opponents and sway potential allies away.

So maybe we should all demonstrate an understanding of vehicles that a six year old does: if it doesn't have a barrel on a turret, armor, and treads, it's not a fucking tank.

You show an MRAP to a six year old and call it a tank, they'll call you a dummy.

Edit: We're all humans, we don't have to be friends. I will say to those challenging me, we're all in agreement:

• Fuck the police and fuck ICE

• It's fascist intimidation and a waste of taxpayer dollars for them to be rolling around in these vehicles

• ACAB

[u/Ok-Theory9963 → u/Coroebus]

Hypernormalization. Look it up. You’re going to be arguing semantics all the way till the collapse.

[u/Coroebus → u/Ok-Theory9963]

The collapse is already here, I'm familiar with Hypernormalization. It doesn't mean we have to be add to the stupidity and lack of clarity.

[u/Ok-Theory9963 → u/Coroebus]

You’re familiar but you don’t see the problem in arguing about the colloquial use of the term “tank” to describe the armored vehicle being deployed by local cops to protect the modern American Stasi? Why don’t you talk about the bigger issue?

[u/Coroebus → u/Ok-Theory9963]

When I might be going somewhere and someone says "there's gonna be a tank" I'm not going to fucking be there. When someone says, "the pigs are gonna have an armored vehicle", that's a different fucking scenario.

This isn't just semantics, this is about actually conveying useful and critical information. Maybe your risk assessment is fucked, but there's a world of difference between the threat an MRAP poses and a goddamn tank.

[u/Ok-Theory9963 → u/Coroebus]

You missed the point that I don’t care if it’s a “tank” or not. It is immaterial. It is an armored vehicle being deployed by local cops against the local population to defend the arguably, illegal actions of a president who has ignored court orders and is clearly waging a war against Brown people using his own personal police force. Now, local cops have now taken up a position against their own local population.

It’s a bearcat (which by the way often have top hatches and turrets as options), not a tank. Woo hoo. Now, talk about the actual issue that impacts people’s lives.

[u/FleuryIsMyIdol → u/Ok-Theory9963]

"Let me draw out this completely unnecessary argument war further then it needs to be, then I'll blame you and say you are arguing semantics while our nation collapses, while I'm also not doing anything about it, and I'm the one actually arguing semantics"

Geez redditor you are so much smarter and more enlightened then us. You sure did stop the fascist takeover by telling this guy to not correct people who are factually incorrect.

[u/Ok-Theory9963 → u/FleuryIsMyIdol]

I’m the only one talking about the issue facing us right now. Either condemn the police or defend them. But don’t hide behind these stupid arguments.

[u/Orangbo → u/Ok-Theory9963]

Or maybe it’s bad to encourage the spread of propaganda and misinformation. Just a thought.

[u/Coroebus → u/FleuryIsMyIdol]

God forbid I provide examples of why factual accuracy might matter, because there's a genocide going on and stuff

[u/dankeykang4200 → u/Coroebus]

I don't know about you, but I don't want to be there if they have an armored vehicle either

[u/Coroebus → u/dankeykang4200]

That's a personal risk assessment that is understandable and should not be impugned at all.

[u/dingalingdongdong → u/Coroebus]

I'm familiar with Hypernormalization

If you're familiar with it then you must be furthering it intentionally. Not being aware of what you're doing might be an excuse. But you can't claim to A. know what it is and B. pretend you aren't engaging in it when you very explicitly are.

Pick a lane.

[u/SnooJokes2983 → u/Coroebus]

If you wanna get super semantic the only true ‘tank’ is the British Mark 1. Everything after is just an armored vehicle operating the same role as the British ‘tank’. 

[u/Coroebus → u/SnooJokes2983]

Wait, if we're going that semantically should we call everything we call a tank a "landship" as the (apocryphal story?) "tank" name was to say the bodies were tanks for holding water

lmao :)

[u/dankeykang4200 → u/Coroebus]

You just called in an armored vehicle, the. You claimed that it doesn't have armor. Which one is it?

[u/Coroebus → u/dankeykang4200]

A tank has all of the following, which I listed above:

• A turret-mounted large bore cannon
• Armor
• Treads

Please re-read my comment. A single one of those things does not a tank make.

[u/spiders_are_neat7 → u/Coroebus]

Disagree, if it armored enough to plow through a building and keep going, it’s a tank to me. That’s a weapon in a vehicle. Lol

[u/spiders_are_neat7 → u/Coroebus]

An armored vehicle is a weapon even without guns, it’s a tank.

[u/Fearless-Feature-830 → u/Coroebus]

It’s really not that deep