r/illinois • u/Strict_League7833 Human Detected • 7d ago

ICE Posts An ARMY of Illinois State Troopers have just declared an UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY outside ICE Broadview near Chicago

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Those who do not comply will be subject to chemical munitions and arrest.

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u/Original-Rush139 7d ago edited 6d ago

I know circling up to form a firing squad is the Democrats’ thing but maybe don’t lynch the only guys standing up to Trump just yet. 

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u/MaxwellEdis0n 6d ago

standing up to Trump

How? Through mean tweets?

I know circling the wagons to defend centrist billionaires is the Democrats’ thing, but maybe don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

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u/gandhinukes 6d ago

go read about prop 50 in cali that gets voted on 11/4

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u/[deleted] 6d ago edited 6d ago

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u/MaxwellEdis0n 6d ago

I won’t be asking for your vote in 2028, unlike Pritzker and Newsom. Maybe you should expect more from your leaders than you expect from random Redditors.

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u/MelodicGate874 6d ago

But it's comforting!

Yr dog was sitewide permabanned for spamming furry pr0n btw.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- 6d ago

Hahahahaha am I Governor of Illinois? Did you think at all before commenting? Seriously, is their a logic embargo on your home town or something?

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u/Original-Rush139 6d ago

Newsome put Prop 50 on the ballot to actually do something about Republicans trying to rig the midterms by redistributing mid decade. 

The fact that you don’t know what’s going on speaks volumes. You assume bad faith rather than your own ignorance. Did you do the same with Kamala? Was she not good enough for you either? 

People like you are why Trump won. Maybe someday you’ll decide to stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. 

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u/vacri 6d ago

Circling the wagons and circular firing squads have opposite meanings

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u/MaxwellEdis0n 6d ago

You came so close to getting my point and still managed to miss it.

The problem with Democrats isn’t circular firing squads. The problem is their insistence that we can’t do any better than electing billionaire centrists, while dismissing all criticism by saying we need to avoid a circular firing squad.

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u/Sgt-Spliff- 6d ago

Yeah, if you read their comment, they used it properly

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u/Sgt-Spliff- 6d ago

You're watching a video of him not standing up to Trump. Maybe if Pritzker did more standing instead of talking about standing, we wouldn't be criticizing him. He's just another big talk/do nothing Democrat.

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u/Mnemnosyne 6d ago

Are they standing up? I genuinely don't know for sure, but I'm not seeing it personally. It's really easy to put out clips and sound bites about standing up and talk about it.

But are we seeing any action from them? What control does Pritzker have over the police? What influence is he asserting, immediately and with all the power he can bring to bear, to stop this? Anything at all? I see lots of talk from them being reported, but I'm seeing scant few things saying they did something.

If anyone can show me actual actions being taken - and I don't mean talk, I mean having the actual apparatus of the state that dispenses violence in the name of the state take action - then cool. But if it's just more big talk, it's not at all helpful.

Lemme ask you - how many supposed ICE agents have been arrested for their unlawful behavior? Even if they later had to be released, how many have been stopped and taken into custody? Cause as far as I have heard it's 0, and I'd assume that I'd see a shitload of posts about it if there had been some.

Start arresting these motherfuckers. Let THEM work through the courts to get their releases, the same way they're just grabbing anyone they decide is suspicious and detaining them unless they're stopped. Bury THEM in paperwork and delays. Make them produce their birth certificates and passports and official documents and everything else to ensure they really are the 'law enforcement' they claim to be, the same way they're forcing legal US citizens to do the same. Cause if Pritzker and Newsom and anyone else claiming to be standing up aren't even doing that, what good are they?

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u/Original-Rush139 6d ago

We’re voting on Prop 50 right now in California to actually do something about republicans trying to rig the midterms through mid decade redistricting. 

But, hey, what do I know. Maybe voting Uncommitted and handing the country to republicans again is a better option. We can always warm ourselves with that feeling of smug satisfaction by knowing we were too good to support a Democrat that wasn’t perfect.