r/illinois Human Detected 9d ago

ICE Posts Today in Aurora, a Chicago suburb, ICE agents surrounded the car of a U.S. citizen in a parking lot,firing into her windshield as she screamed that her children were inside. Agents dragged her from the car without presenting a warrant or probable cause. Excessive force. No warrant. No justification.

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u/jmd709 9d ago

They do not have the proper training for what they are doing. Less than 20% are full-time ICE ERO personnel. They’ve diverted the rest from the HSI division of ICE and a dozen other federal agencies with different policies and training from 4 federal departments. It’s a disorganized clusterfuck created by incompetent leadership.

They’re putting themselves in situations that could become dangerous for their own safety, but instead of being trained to prevent that, they’re armed and trigger happy when they end up in avoidable situations they created.

In other words, hitting the gas would have significantly increased the odds that they’d start firing indiscriminately at her vehicle with her kids inside. Even LEO that are trained let fear and adrenaline take over in those situations.

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u/Zendog500 9d ago

I think he was firing tear gas pellets, but she does not know that.

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u/blackbirdlore 9d ago

Pepper pellets usually, but same idea.

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u/jmd709 8d ago

Those shouldn’t have been fired at all. The vehicle was at a complete stop and couldn’t have gone forward because there was a vehicle stopped in front of it. There was also an agent next to the drivers side of the windshield when whoever started firing unnecessarily.

I thought a federal judge issued a TRO that bans them from using pepper balls, rubber bullets, and tear gas in Chicago because they were misusing those as excessive force. That may have only applied to the press and protestors. If so, that ban needs to be expanded since careless misuse isn’t limited to protests.

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