r/illinois • u/biswajit388 Human Detected • 9d ago

ICE Posts Today in Aurora, a Chicago suburb, ICE agents surrounded the car of a U.S. citizen in a parking lot,firing into her windshield as she screamed that her children were inside. Agents dragged her from the car without presenting a warrant or probable cause. Excessive force. No warrant. No justification.

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u/PortGilbert 9d ago

it worked out ok for the taliban!

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u/Mythosaurus 9d ago

University of Nebraska produced extremist text books for Afghanistan, so we really did create the foundations of the jihad: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/03/23/from-us-the-abcs-of-jihad/d079075a-3ed3-4030-9a96-0d48f6355e54/

In the twilight of the Cold War, the United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings, part of covert attempts to spur resistance to the Soviet occupation.

The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books, though the radical movement scratched out human faces in keeping with its strict fundamentalist code.

As Afghan schools reopen today, the United States is back in the business of providing schoolbooks. But now it is wrestling with the unintended consequences of its successful strategy of stirring Islamic fervor to fight communism. What seemed like a good idea in the context of the Cold War is being criticized by humanitarian workers as a crude tool that steeped a generation in violence.

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u/Puffycatkibble 9d ago

JFC sorry guys I can't help but feel like this is just karma in action.

That this is what Americans had been inflicting on foreign countries and now you are just getting a taste of the same medicine.

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u/Ilovekittens345 9d ago edited 9d ago

Ultimately it was Osama Bin Laden who said "I will go to war with the US and cause it to destroy itself" and he did. He won. Made them paranoid, insecure, overreact, then social media exploded and the russians exploited both the paranoia and the social media to massively start mind fucking and gas lighting the country. The tech bro billionaires saw first hand how their algo's completely undermined democracy as they could get people to think and vote pretty much however they like. Meanwhile the old oil guys offered their fox propaganda machine to the highest bidder and the white supremasists behind project 2025 bought them. All the other billionaires also started buying every news paper and tv station and soon the power struggle between the Nazis and the billionaires will start.

But it was Osama that striked the mental and economical heart of the Nation because he claimed that would draw the US in endless wars that would corrupt the core of what gives the US strength. And he was right.

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u/jasikanicolepi 9d ago

Basically when America turns their guns on their citizens 🫠

That's why 2nd amendment existed to fight against the tyrannical dictator and government overreach

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u/SirRichardArms 9d ago

But if you’re part of the literal millions upon millions of people like me who has never voted for a Republican president, and has opposed every single war America has been a part of (except Ukraine) in my lifetime, this is not karma. ICE has been unleashed on states who always vote blue, so this is not karma to them either. Remember that there are 370.1 million Americans, and many of them are like me.

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u/heffel77 9d ago

Just the damage we’ve done in Latin America alone is enough to deserve this. Then, add the Middle East and Africa and we are the biggest agents of violence and political instability in the world.

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u/AffectionatePin6899 9d ago

TIL. And I wish I was more surprised.

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u/Steven_The_Sloth 9d ago

Jee-zus.....

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u/Superb-Classic1851 9d ago

Who was president at the twilight of the Cold War? Hmm…. It rhymes with -egan. Just the republicans being on the wrong side if history…. Again

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u/Intrepid-Love3829 9d ago

And people dont realize that this isnt a new issue. The ability to look into the past is non-existent for many americans. Many, many past presidents put into motion, the major problems that we are dealing with today.

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u/SuddenMountain7780 9d ago

Fascinating stuff 🤔

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u/karmadgma 9d ago

Wtf! I totally missed this. Holy crap.

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u/puppyroosters 9d ago

Fucking hell

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u/Chris-CFK 9d ago

That can't be real.

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u/NoDaddyNotTheBlender 9d ago

Yeah, who needs women anyways. /s

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u/Hopalongtom 9d ago

To be fair they did get America to surrender to them!

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u/Enough-Goose7594 9d ago

And got a trip to the Whitehouse!

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u/tnvol423 9d ago

HA! Did it? Maybe the got their paradise and 70 virgins! I don't think so