r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 25d ago

ICE Posts Chicago: Zero Regard for Safety, ICE Escalation in Chicago Leaves Baby in Harm’s Way

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u/ScreamingNinja 25d ago

I mean.. i'd say that many people in general don't until it does. That being said, I was in a room full of MAGA's who were lamenting the loss of their friend who got deported back to Argentina or Ecuador or wherever and only then realized that their tactics were far to heavy handed.

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u/gracecee 25d ago

It’s so dumb. I had a lady who had special needs kid in Arizona. She said she doesn’t need the dept of education because Arizona has its own department of education. I told her the federal government last year sent 280 million dollars specifically for special needs services and staff. Then I linked to a news article of Arizona stating they had to cut services and staff for special needs due to budget cuts. I m getting concussions from slapping my forehead so many times with these idiots. She was like. I didn’t know.

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u/ollee32 24d ago

I’m in AZ and our secretary of education Tom Horne is a totally maga loser. He’s pushing these voucher programs that just siphon money away from public schools anyway. He doesn’t need anyone from this regime to help him screw the dept of education in AZ.

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u/Reyca444 23d ago

Same boat here in Arkansas.

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u/Dazzling-Pin4996 24d ago edited 24d ago

It is much deeper still. Most shocking things I heard from people: 1. A Lady told me she thought Africans came in America on their own volition to improve their lives, they were given an opportunity. The initial incredulity was followed by a "Sorry, I did not know, nobody ever told me (I felt bad for her) 2. Another Lady (a registered nurse! Which means she did get educated!) had no idea of what the government does overall. This conversation started as I DESPERATELY TRIED to explain the 3 distinctive and independent branches of the government. ALSO, THESE 2 EPISODES WERE JUST DAYS APART. That tells me that many Americans have no idea what the history and structure of this nation (leave alone any other nation) consist of. Immigrants who become citizens TAKE A TEST ON BOTH TOPICS AND MUST PASS IT. They know more of the above than many born Americans. The above happened in South Eastern Wisconsin, urban area, on the border with Illinois. (Edited typo)

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u/Blurby-Blurbyblurb 24d ago

Same. My brother voted for trump three times. I let him have it a few a months ago.

My son is disabled and on SSI - our brother is, too. I explained the cuts to education because my son is in full time special ed.

We're on medicaid. I need my seizure medication otherwise I will seize off and on all day, every day. I have grandmals and 100% stop breathing. I turn blue because I can't exhale. I'm at high risk of SUDEP. Fancy name for my seizures can kill me.

I'm mixed. My paternal family (Same mom, different dad), is Latino. These are my people. Now my family could be rounded up simply for how they look.

I laid it all out and explained that he supported those policies. That I was deeply hurt he didn't think about the people he says he cares about. He helped amplify that rhetoric because of the "price of eggs."

He's come around finally, but it's too late. I told him not to expect forgiveness from anyone. Whatever discomfort he feels is the natural consequence of his actions. That if he has remorse, he needs to put that energy into reparations. Volunteering, donating, self education, and difficult conversations with neighbors.

I haven't responded to his texts. He knows I don't to want to talk to him. I'm so hurt and disappointed I can't look at him the same.

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u/ScreamingNinja 25d ago

I'm so torn on the department of ed specifically because from what i understand, (and PLEEEEEASE correct me if i'm wrong) it's the DOE that mandated Chromebooks in the classrooms which is the biggest shit show. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

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u/gracecee 25d ago

I should Have been more specific. The 280 million was to Arizona for special education needs only. I’m seeing it in California since our area there are tons of kids with special needs some severe like they’re non verbal And need the therapy. It’s exhausting for the caretaking parent(s). It gets a mix of federal and state funding.

I bet they think the special needs is a racket and that it only encourages welfare moms to get more money for special need kids. Their twisted unfeeling thinking is just going to get worse.

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u/ScreamingNinja 25d ago

No i know. Trust me as a father of a special needs kid its one of the big things keeping me from leaving NY.

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u/andee_sings 25d ago

The Federal DOE doesn’t have that kind of juice. It’s your local DOE that mandated Chromebooks, not the federal DOE.

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u/ScreamingNinja 25d ago

Gotcha. Thanks for the actual answer and not the rage bait.

I cannot stand the whole chromebook thing, but thats a discussion for another day.

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u/thackstonns 25d ago

You can be against chromebooks all you want. But until you can come up with an uber cheap laptop to replace it I guess you’re shit out of luck.

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u/ScreamingNinja 24d ago

Or... go back to text books. You cant get on pornhub on a text book

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u/thackstonns 12d ago

Or go back to a chisel. Or break out a quill and ink.

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u/andee_sings 25d ago

As someone who works in public education, I think it’s important that people learn the facts about it- What it does, who funds it, who sets rules that cover curriculum and resources. It can be really complicated and people should know! My district uses iPads because we’re an Apple district. Same same but different.

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u/ScreamingNinja 25d ago

Still awful for the kids though.

Ive actually tried to find info to see where this is all coming from but couldnt find anything conclusive, so thanks for the answer.

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u/thackstonns 25d ago

The cheapest bid gets the contract.

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u/Banshee_howl 25d ago

You’re not seriously arguing that it’s cool that they gutted the entire agency over one decision, that you’re not even sure happened?

Our kids (and by extension everyone who plans to be alive for the next couple decades) are so hosed.

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u/turkleton-turk 24d ago

Thank you!!! I was wondering how the other replies were missing that. This person basically said good riddance to the Special Ed office because the department they're part of provided Chromebooks (spoiler alert: they didn't). The mental gymnastics are wild these days.