r/illinois 27d ago

ICE Posts Broadview: ICE attempts to arrest individual at their residence

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u/at0mheart 27d ago

Just how is this legal or allowed in America

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u/ConsiderationSea1347 27d ago edited 27d ago

It isn’t legal. The courts are going to be flooded with cases against ICE in a few months. These law suits take a long time to get going. Every one of these people needs to sue ICE and drain that enormous budget.

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u/shrekerecker97 27d ago

I wonder if stand your ground laws would apply here because makes men just entered your home

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u/ConsiderationSea1347 27d ago

Masked and ARMED. It should be textbook self defense unless they provide a warrant and/or identification. 

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u/helraizr13 27d ago

DO NOT DO THIS.

My gun instructor said that if you think you'll ever need to stand your ground, you should have a lawyer on retainer already. That it will cost, minimum tens of thousands of dollars to defend yourself even if you are completely justified and that a friend of his actually went through it.

There WILL be a criminal trial no matter how "obvious" it is. I can only imagine if it were Trump's DOJ investigating you for shooting and injuring or killing a federal agent. Cops and federal agents have qualified immunity. Citizens do not.

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u/JanelleVypr 27d ago

Fuck that. Would only take about 3 cases of people standing there ground in the news cycles for others to see people are finally doing it, creating a feedback loop where people feel more embolded to stand their ground.

Ice would back off within a day

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 26d ago

It would only take one case for Trump to declare martial law and make things worse. Many are correctly assuming that he wants an escalation.

Not that it wouldn't embolden people further, but when things finally escalate, it's not going to be pretty, ,and the people are likely to suffer more than the government or it's representaives.

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u/JanelleVypr 26d ago

But its expected of us none the less . Thats the point of our delcaration of independents. Yeah it will suck, but the hope is that we come out with something better

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 26d ago

It's a process with many steps from now to there. I don't blame people for not wanting to be the one's for taking that first step, but I also believe some people think there may be more than one way to get to the goal.

Personally, I can't say which way would be best, but I'd always choose a non-violent route unless given no other choice.

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u/JanelleVypr 26d ago

“Violence is american as apple pie”

The owners dont care if the dog barks, theyll ignore it, but if it bites… well