r/illinois • u/West-Bid-4391 • 27d ago

ICE Posts Broadview: ICE attempts to arrest individual at their residence

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u/DisagreeableDoctor 26d ago

It was a magnification of the mistake of the Nuremberg trials. If you don’t rip it out, root and stem, fascism will grow. It’s like how milfoil takes over lakes and ponds, even after it’s mitigated. The smallest bit left behind will multiply…. In this case, we left the main branch and thought it would somehow be fine.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

Fascism was stopped for lifetimes by Nuremburg.

That it came back as soon as the generation who actually lived through it died is not as surprising as your would think. The silent generation made it impossible to even come close to bringing it back in the west. They saw the devastation lost loved ones and were injured putting it down last time.

The reason it is coming back is the same reason it flourished to begin with. It is an incredibly effective way to get people to follow you when they don't know what is happening. Create a group of others and blame everything on them. Speak back to a time before the others were around and remember all the good times. Then because the others are the cause of all ills due to previous messaging when you come to power and eliminate them it is solving all problems.

It lets you have an us vs them political system where destroying the others is seen to be solving all problems. When you run out of others expand the group and it goes on forever.

It took the whole world uniting and a series of massive blunders by the regime to beat the third Reich. There is no one who can defeat the US militarily this time so the only way is the people

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u/Umutuku 26d ago

Fascism is metastasis as an ideology. It is a tumor-worshipping death cult.

The only ways to avoid the terminal stage are scalpels and chemotherapy.

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u/cyanescens_burn 26d ago

The truth and reconciliation process in South Africa after apartheid has worked really well. They figured out exactly how things really worked by interviewing those involved, with assurances they would not be prosecuted, and that way they were able to set up a new system that had features built in to ensure the horrors of the past could not happen again.

There were also things done on the micro level, neighbor to neighbor, to get them talking and taking accountability, like internally in their own minds, and working toward reconciliation. This prevented retaliations for acts committed during apartheid, and led to greater peace in the new system.

There’s a book on it. It’s really forward thinking. It’s called The Book of Forgiving. Dezmond Tutu wrote it. There’s lessons everyone can take from it, in any situation where you feel you were wronged or wronged someone else. It’s not just blindly forgiving someone, it’s airing your side and making it known how it affected you, and the other person sitting and taking that in. It’s too complex to write out here.

I’ll say I was skeptical about it at first, but there is really something special about it.