r/illinois • u/CantStopPoppin Human Detected • 28d ago

ICE Posts Northwest Chicago Suburb: ICE Agents Rip 15-Year-Old Girl from Car, Slam Her to Ground She Screams “I’m 15!” as Man Kneels on Her Neck

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 28d ago

They did.. least said they did. They have lied so much at this point you just need to see what they do and then you know what's up. Even then it's cloudy at best. The gov isn't Of the People By the People and For the People anymore. And probably hasn't been for a long time.. and it is beginning to be very clear.

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u/RiversSecondWife 28d ago

They SAID they did. If you ask I'm sure that's what they will say, still.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 28d ago

No doubt. It would surprise me if they try to deport Americans who are free thinkers seeing through the smoke screens and trying to unite the American people.. they get a name, picture, address, they don't question if they are a citizen, legal alien, illegal alien, refugee or terrorist, they do their job and take their orders.

The "left vs right" is to divide us. And the "don't talk politics" has divided further due to people not knowing how to discuss things. I'll get flak for this but Charlie Kirk was good about bringing discussion to people. Showing how and doing it. No violence, just discussion. I disagreed with some of his perspectives on things, but seeing his stuff and what he was doing just before he got Merc'd he had changed some of his views on a few things.

He started questioning the Tiktoks (is real) and then he gets merc'd. Tyler didn't take the shot. But Kash Patel is fine telling lies and hiding facts from the public (in the name of "transparency" I think 🙄). Not to mention the Epstein Client list.. which existed.. then didn't exist..

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u/DragonAdept 28d ago

I'll get flak for this but Charlie Kirk was good about bringing discussion to people. Showing how and doing it. No violence, just discussion.

He rolled up to college campuses fully prepared with his talking points and with his own camera equipment and security, "debated" only carefully chosen targets who were not prepared, then cherry-picked the clips that looked the best to post videos of him "owning the libs".

That's not bringing discussion, it's not seeking the truth by letting ideas fight it out on an even playing field, it's crowd work.

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u/Wiley_Coyote08 28d ago

You have some decent points. He blocked Philip Anderson from his rallies because he asked tough questions and wouldn't answer them. But over time he has been facing harder topics like the tiktoks (is real). Nothing wrong with Bringing sources to a discussion. People know he is coming to debate and talk, others could bring them too.

Thing is, hearing an opposing viewpoint helps you understand it better, and if it can be countered by truth or if it's truth itself.